If you dont mind buffing a fair bit, it is a great combo for PvE and if you do ever PvP some, if built well, it would be pretty good there too. My only complant would be the recharge on MA and HE are a bit on the long side.
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LotD - JaL - POWT/SMD - SoCo - AJs
Thanks Mirage 
I gave it a shot, but it wasn't clicking.
Oddly enough, I assembled an Illusion/Trick Arrow controller, and I love it :P
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Yes, I like Force Fields.
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Ill/TA sounds fun! Have been thinking of making a */TA myself |
Originally Posted by Chill_Out
Thanks Mirage
I gave it a shot, but it wasn't clicking. Oddly enough, I assembled an Illusion/Trick Arrow controller, and I love it :P |
Shenanigans
LotD - JaL - POWT/SMD - SoCo - AJs
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Illusion/Trick Arrow is a fun combo -- I have one at 50. I picked it because I wanted to experience the Trick Arrow set. I found it a tight build -- I skipped only Flash Arrow from TA (because I mainly wanted to play TA), and skipped Group Invis and Flash from Illusion. To fit in Fitness, Hasten and a travel power, I went with Super Speed for travel. The build was too tight to fit in a different travel power. However, as soon as I get my 60 month vet level, I'm going to change him over to Fly. At the APP level, I took Fire Blast and Fireball to light the Oil Slick, then fit in Aid Other and Aid Self from the medicine pool. If I had to drop another power, it would probably be Poison Gas Arrow, but that one does have its uses. And don't forget the standard advice for any Trick Arrow character -- take Tech or Magic as your origin so you have a power to light the Oil Slick.|
Originally Posted by Chill_Out
Thanks Mirage
I gave it a shot, but it wasn't clicking. Oddly enough, I assembled an Illusion/Trick Arrow controller, and I love it :P |
I found (a) it relies more on Phantom Army than my Ill/Rad, and (b) I play this character entirely at range. Standard strategy was send in Phantom Army, then stay back at range, fire off all my debuff arrows (glue, acid, disruption, pga), and then use Blind-Spectral Wounds to do ranged attacks, refreshing the debuffs as needed. Use added controls (ice, entangle, Oil Slick, EMP arrow) as needed. It was nice to be able to hold bosses with Ice Arrow followed with Blind -- but I could also control bosses with two applications of Deceive. I used Oil Slick Arrow to fill the gap when Phantom Army is recharging most of the time, with EMP Arrow in reserve. I used Deceive a lot to get foes who were coming after me to turn around and go after their fellow bad guys.
I still have a long way to go before he is fully IO'ed out. But the first thing to get is the Contagious Confusion Proc from the purple confuse set for Deceive -- it turns the single-target confuse power into an occasional multi-target power.
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Guide Links: Earth/Rad Guide, Illusion/Rad Guide, Electric Control
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I'd be more curious to see how the placate proc from the purple sleep set works in Poison Gas Arrow.
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Originally Posted by Local_Man
I still have a long way to go before he is fully IO'ed out. But the first thing to get is the Contagious Confusion Proc from the purple confuse set for Deceive -- it turns the single-target confuse power into an occasional multi-target power.
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My Ill/TA is a ton of fun. There is always something to do, and TA brings some of the hard control that ill is missing.|
Originally Posted by Chill_Out
Thanks Mirage
I gave it a shot, but it wasn't clicking. Oddly enough, I assembled an Illusion/Trick Arrow controller, and I love it :P |
I personally need to stay active to enjoy a combination. Ice is not a very active primary, so I would be bored pairing it with any of the secondaries with long duration buffs such as Thermal.
To be fair though, my plant/thermal is the only "shield" controller I've played, and it's been stuck at 45 for a while. I guess I just tend to enjoy them more on a defender or corruptor. (I'm thoroughly enjoying my cold/arch right now).
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I have planned to put it in there. Since PGA is usually the last of the debuff arrows that I shoot off, I'm very curious on how well it works. Alas, I have a lot of other alts I'm working on now, so I'm not devoting much time or many resources to my Ill/TA.|
Originally Posted by hilker
I'd be more curious to see how the placate proc from the purple sleep set works in Poison Gas Arrow.
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I'm kind of fond of his name, though. I wanted something that would show the Bow & Arrow nature, as well as Illusion. Illusion -- an Illusionist is an entertainer -- so I came up with a guy who was hired by the French Foreign Legion to entertain the Legioneers with his trick shooting and magic/comedy act. His name is "Beau Jester." I was really delighted when the Jester costume came available, too, but he was made long before I had heard of it.
LOCAL MAN! The most famous hero of all. There are more newspaper stories about me than anyone else. "Local Man wins Medal of Honor." "Local Man opens Animal Shelter." "Local Man Charged with..." (Um, forget about that one.)
Guide Links: Earth/Rad Guide, Illusion/Rad Guide, Electric Control
Nice to hear some thoughts on Ill/TA, its not a very common combination from what I've experienced!
I am only 18th level ATM, but in my build I also dropped Flash and Flash Arrow.
Since I have Apprentice Charm to set OSA on fire, I went with Ice for both Hibernate and Ice Storm (to combo with Glue/OSA). Most of the time, if I'm doing things well solo, I don't even come under fire so I didn't go with Aid Self. How often do you find yourself using Medicine, Local Man?
I figure if PA goes poof, or there is a realy SNAFU, Hibernate would give me time for some vital powers to recharge. I'm guessing there are a lot of ways to go with this. If I find I don't even use Hibernate much, I'll end up with Fire Blast/Fireball instead at some point.
I've posted a build for the curious. Lots of procs. I'm thinking once I get to 50 I'll write a guide, since TA seems woefully underrepresented in the controller guides.
This combo is definitely a nice blend of control, pets, and debuffs, both for solo work and teaming.
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Trick Shots: Level 50 Magic Controller
Primary Power Set: Illusion Control
Secondary Power Set: Trick Arrow
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Speed
Ancillary Pool: Ice Mastery
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Spectral Wounds
- (A) Apocalypse - Chance of Damage(Negative)
- (17) Apocalypse - Damage/Recharge
- (43) Apocalypse - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
- (43) Apocalypse - Accuracy/Recharge
- (45) Apocalypse - Damage/Endurance
- (A) Gravitational Anchor - Accuracy/Immobilize/Recharge
- (13) Gravitational Anchor - Accuracy/Recharge
- (15) Gravitational Anchor - Immobilize/Endurance
- (17) Gravitational Anchor - Immobilize/Recharge
- (25) Gravitational Anchor - Chance for Hold
- (43) Trap of the Hunter - Chance of Damage(Lethal)
- (A) Coercive Persuasion - Contagious Confusion
- (3) Coercive Persuasion - Confused/Recharge
- (3) Coercive Persuasion - Accuracy/Confused/Recharge
- (9) Coercive Persuasion - Accuracy/Recharge
- (46) Coercive Persuasion - Confused/Endurance
- (A) Devastation - Damage/Endurance
- (5) Unbreakable Constraint - Hold/Recharge
- (5) Unbreakable Constraint - Accuracy/Hold/Recharge
- (7) Unbreakable Constraint - Accuracy/Recharge
- (31) Unbreakable Constraint - Endurance/Hold
- (40) Unbreakable Constraint - Chance for Smashing Damage
- (A) Flight Speed IO
- (7) Flight Speed IO
- (A) Endurance Reduction IO
- (9) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
- (A) Basilisk's Gaze - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge/Hold
- (11) Basilisk's Gaze - Accuracy/Hold
- (11) Basilisk's Gaze - Accuracy/Recharge
- (13) Basilisk's Gaze - Endurance/Recharge/Hold
- (A) Flight Speed IO
- (A) Flight Speed IO
- (15) Flight Speed IO
- (A) Numina's Convalescence - +Regeneration/+Recovery
- (A) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Recharge
- (19) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Damage
- (19) Expedient Reinforcement - Damage/Endurance
- (23) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
- (40) Expedient Reinforcement - Endurance/Damage/Recharge
- (40) Recharge Reduction IO
- (A) Endurance Modification IO
- (21) Endurance Modification IO
- (21) Performance Shifter - EndMod
- (23) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End
- (A) Shield Breaker - Chance for Lethal Damage
- (29) Analyze Weakness - Accuracy/Defense Debuff
- (34) Analyze Weakness - Accuracy/Recharge
- (45) Touch of Lady Grey - Defense Debuff/Recharge
- (46) Touch of Lady Grey - Defense Debuff/Recharge/Endurance
- (48) Touch of Lady Grey - Chance for Negative Damage
- (A) Pacing of the Turtle - Endurance/Recharge/Slow
- (25) Tempered Readiness - Endurance/Recharge/Slow
- (A) Glimpse of the Abyss - Accuracy/Fear/Recharge
- (27) Glimpse of the Abyss - Accuracy/Recharge
- (27) Glimpse of the Abyss - Endurance/Fear
- (34) Glimpse of the Abyss - Accuracy/Endurance
- (37) Glimpse of the Abyss - Fear/Range
- (37) Glimpse of the Abyss - Chance of Damage(Psionic)
- (A) Recharge Reduction IO
- (29) Recharge Reduction IO
- (31) Endurance Reduction IO
- (A) Fortunata Hypnosis - Sleep/Endurance
- (31) Fortunata Hypnosis - Sleep/Recharge
- (42) Fortunata Hypnosis - Accuracy/Sleep/Recharge
- (42) Fortunata Hypnosis - Accuracy/Recharge
- (42) Fortunata Hypnosis - Chance for Placate
- (A) Expedient Reinforcement - Endurance/Damage/Recharge
- (33) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
- (33) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Recharge
- (33) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Damage
- (34) Expedient Reinforcement - Damage/Endurance
- (A) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
- (36) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage
- (36) Positron's Blast - Damage/Recharge
- (36) Positron's Blast - Damage/Endurance
- (37) Recharge Reduction IO
- (45) Recharge Reduction IO
- (A) Basilisk's Gaze - Accuracy/Hold
- (39) Basilisk's Gaze - Recharge/Hold
- (39) Basilisk's Gaze - Accuracy/Recharge
- (39) Basilisk's Gaze - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge/Hold
- (A) Recharge Reduction IO
- (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
- (46) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance
- (50) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
- (A) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
- (48) Positron's Blast - Damage/Endurance
- (48) Positron's Blast - Damage/Recharge
- (50) Positron's Blast - Damage/Range
- (A) Recharge Reduction IO
- (50) Recharge Reduction IO
Level 1: Brawl
- (A) Empty
- (A) Empty
- (A) Empty
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53 Bots/FF/Mace Mastermind | 53 NRG/FF/Electricity Defender | 50 Time/Dual Pistols/Soul Defender | 50 Demons/FF/Mace Mastermind | 51 Necro/Dark/Soul Mastermind | 50 Thugs/Time/Mace Mastermind | 50 Ice/Ice/Arctic Tanker | 50 Plant/Rad/Earth Controller | 50 Illusion/Trick Arrow Controller | 50 Gravity/Force Field Controller
Yes, I like Force Fields.
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Neat. Mine is named Rabbit Trick. She's a rabbit girl, who uses trick arrows, and was accidentally pulled out of a hat by a Circle of Thorns mage who tried his hand at stage magic. "Watch me pull a rabbit out of my hat!"; and yes I was thinking of Rocky and Bullwinkle.
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Originally Posted by Local_Man
I'm kind of fond of his name, though. I wanted something that would show the Bow & Arrow nature, as well as Illusion. Illusion -- an Illusionist is an entertainer -- so I came up with a guy who was hired by the French Foreign Legion to entertain the Legioneers with his trick shooting and magic/comedy act. His name is "Beau Jester." I was really delighted when the Jester costume came available, too, but he was made long before I had heard of it.
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Arc #40529 : The Furies of the Earth
Beau Jester reminds me of a character from a Michael Stackpole novel
Wonder if the name 'Hat Trick' is taken?
53 Bots/FF/Mace Mastermind | 53 NRG/FF/Electricity Defender | 50 Time/Dual Pistols/Soul Defender | 50 Demons/FF/Mace Mastermind | 51 Necro/Dark/Soul Mastermind | 50 Thugs/Time/Mace Mastermind | 50 Ice/Ice/Arctic Tanker | 50 Plant/Rad/Earth Controller | 50 Illusion/Trick Arrow Controller | 50 Gravity/Force Field Controller
Yes, I like Force Fields.
HotorNot is my Ice/Thermal, and I really enjoy the combo. Of course, I haven't found a control set I don't like. Ice feels very safe with Ice Slick and Glacier, and I'm most looking forward to making Jack an unstoppable beast with Thermal's buffs. So I guess my being active will mean I am fighting by proxy, but for that character, I'm cool with that.
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Love that name |
Originally Posted by GreenBone
HotorNot is my Ice/Thermal, and I really enjoy the combo. Of course, I haven't found a control set I don't like. Ice feels very safe with Ice Slick and Glacier, and I'm most looking forward to making Jack an unstoppable beast with Thermal's buffs. So I guess my being active will mean I am fighting by proxy, but for that character, I'm cool with that.
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53 Bots/FF/Mace Mastermind | 53 NRG/FF/Electricity Defender | 50 Time/Dual Pistols/Soul Defender | 50 Demons/FF/Mace Mastermind | 51 Necro/Dark/Soul Mastermind | 50 Thugs/Time/Mace Mastermind | 50 Ice/Ice/Arctic Tanker | 50 Plant/Rad/Earth Controller | 50 Illusion/Trick Arrow Controller | 50 Gravity/Force Field Controller
Yes, I like Force Fields.
I'm working (slowly) on a new Ice/thermal controller. Its way too early to really figure if this combo is going to gel for me or not, but I was curious if anyone had their own experience with the combination they'd like to share?
As an aside, I rarely solo, I tend to team a lot, from small teams to full TFs, and I never PvP in this game at all, all PvE for me.
53 Bots/FF/Mace Mastermind | 53 NRG/FF/Electricity Defender | 50 Time/Dual Pistols/Soul Defender | 50 Demons/FF/Mace Mastermind | 51 Necro/Dark/Soul Mastermind | 50 Thugs/Time/Mace Mastermind | 50 Ice/Ice/Arctic Tanker | 50 Plant/Rad/Earth Controller | 50 Illusion/Trick Arrow Controller | 50 Gravity/Force Field Controller
Yes, I like Force Fields.