I'm looking for a good blapper style human only PB guide


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I've tried a few times to get into Kheldians and just have not been able to do so, but I want to try again. I've read a couple of the human only PB guides, but there were only 2.

Anyone have a solid PB guide out there?

thanks in advance!


 

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The two Human-form guides are the current state of the art in PB Guides. I understand that there are a few new guides currently in development. In fact, the oldest guides, like the one by Plasma, are still 90%+ useful and accurate.

The 'problem' you face is that there is no definitive 'bible' on how to build a Kheldian. My current experience is that there are no 'useless' powers in the lineup, but You have to find the ones that work for You. Kheldians, even human-only ones, are just too flexible and variable to pin down. You will probably have to read Everything and still be prepared to use /respecs to fine tune everything to your playstyle.

That said, I agree, the Human-form PB plays like a free-range Blapper. You sacrifice some damage for the ability to Shield and have self-heals, so you are more durable than a regular Blapper. I've found that keeping on the move and changing-up the ranges allows you to always have an attack ready, while keeping your HP bar out of the red.
Endurance is an issue, so slot for Accuracy and EndRed before damage - Or ignore me and do what you will. There is a community tendency to sacrifice everything, in order to prioritize Stamina, and that will certainly work with a Kheldian too. (Personally, I'd rather have more attacks/defenses/heals to use, but I do like to get Stamina as soon as practical.)

Anyway, study and research, and then try stuff out, and you'll find what you like about the Kheldian experience. Have Fun!

Be Well!
Fireheart


 

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Thank you Fireheart for the response. I have taken a look at the two guides and it did seem that there are many options. I just rolled up my new PB, V’hal Tau, and have already made one discovery: I don’t like the visual of glinting eyes, so I went with gleaming bolt. So, I’m guessing some of the power I select will be also for visual effects.

I think the hardest thing for me to adjust to will be that my primary heroes are scrappers, so I have to get use to the different play style. I’ve created a couple Kheldians before, but they never seem to last past level 15 or so. However, now that I have finished building my primary scrapper I want another project.

Again, much appreciated advice and I’ll be working on this guy a little at a time.

I’m looking forward to the challenge


 

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No need to skip Anything! In fact, I suggest you don't, since you'll want more attacks for your chain. Here's how I built mine so far:

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Starlight Saint: Level 29 Natural Peacebringer
Primary Power Set: Luminous Blast
Secondary Power Set: Luminous Aura
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fitness

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Gleaming Bolt -- Acc(A), Acc(3), EndRdx(5), Dmg(21)
Level 1: Incandescence -- ResDam(A)
Level 2: Glinting Eye -- Acc(A), Acc(3), EndRdx(9), Dmg(21)
Level 4: Gleaming Blast -- Acc(A), Acc(5), EndRdx(11), Dmg(23)
Level 6: Shining Shield -- EndRdx(A), ResDam(7), ResDam(7), ResDam(13)
Level 8: Radiant Strike -- Acc(A), Acc(9), EndRdx(13)
Level 10: Essence Boost -- RechRdx(A), RechRdx(11), Heal(29)
Level 12: Combat Jumping -- DefBuff(A)
Level 14: Proton Scatter -- Acc(A), Acc(15), EndRdx(15)
Level 16: Luminous Detonation -- Acc(A), Acc(17), EndRdx(17)
Level 18: Incandescent Strike -- Acc(A), Acc(19), EndRdx(19), Dmg(23)
Level 20: Hurdle -- Jump(A)
Level 22: Health -- Heal(A)
Level 24: Stamina -- EndMod(A), EndMod(25), EndMod(25)
Level 26: Reform Essence -- RechRdx(A), RechRdx(27), Heal(27)
Level 28: Glowing Touch -- Heal(A), Heal(29)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Cosmic Balance
Level 1: Energy Flight -- Empty(A)
Level 10: Combat Flight -- Empty(A)
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Be Well!
Fireheart


 

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Just wait till you get up in levels and start IOing out. Loads of fun and AVs are not all that difficult


 

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Just wait till you get up in levels and start IOing out. Loads of fun and AVs are not all that difficult
Your human only PB takes out AVs eh... Which AVs have you defeated, if I may ask?


 

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I was wondering the same thing, and then I thought to myself that maybe she was talking about EBs... Or possibly fighting AVs while teaming becoming easier/more reliable when one starts IO'ing out...

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Your human only PB takes out AVs eh... Which AVs have you defeated, if I may ask?
I'd never of assumed Bad Bad Girl meant solo.


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I'd never of assumed Bad Bad Girl meant solo.
The statement doesn't make sense any other way? If she mean't when teamed, well, any AT can 'easily' take AVs on a team of 8.


 

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Originally Posted by AlienOne View Post
I was wondering the same thing, and then I thought to myself that maybe she was talking about EBs... Or possibly fighting AVs while teaming becoming easier/more reliable when one starts IO'ing out...

"Alien"
Possibly, I can take on and solo just about any EB in the game. The only one I've really not be able to to do is the psi-using Jade Spider. But I've gotten more purples and accolades since last time I tried, so maybe it's time for a rematch

Concerning the OP, I feel like my Human Only PB is certainly a Blapper Build, and I feel like I'm approaching the most optimal possible build for a PB Blapper.

So maybe I'll write a guide soon, or at least figure Mids out and post my build, but I'm really lazy with those things haha...


 

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So far I have taken bobcat ,.neuron, and anti matter>

Did I die a couple times yes. did I use inspirations yep

This were done solo. Not on team

But again not all that difficult. Bobcat got me a few times had to change tatics on her. Neuron again nailed me once really good. Almost 2nd time but I did strategic retreat. Anti Matter actually wasnt bad. Full tray of insp helped there. Got him down and 1sec later light form crash (really lucky)


 

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Originally Posted by BadBad_Girl View Post
So far I have taken bobcat ,.neuron, and anti matter

Did I die a couple times yes. did I use inspirations yep

This were done solo. Not on team
How about Infernal, Nosferatu and Dark Ring Mistresses? Any difficulties there?


I believe that a Kheldian Gold Standard should be based on SO's, and for anything above that... there's Platinum!

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How about Infernal, Nosferatu and Dark Ring Mistresses? Any difficulties there?
Haven't got to Infernal and Nosferatu (yet). I might have to seek out Little worried about Nosferatu.

But Dark Rings I have taken on a few as bosses and I can not stand Mask of Vitiation. Haven't ran into AV version thank goodness.


 

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Haven't got to Infernal and Nosferatu (yet). I might have to seek out Little worried about Nosferatu.
Nosfie's a big pest and Infernal does a lot of damage by himself, not to mention his self-replenishing stable to Demons that would love to BBQ you if they get the chance.

Nosferatu caused me trouble on my TriFormPB so I brought friends (two more Kheldians) and we worked things out. Infernal as an AV is a challenge as well even for a team, if the team is fully composed of Kheldians, that is.

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But Dark Rings I have taken on a few as bosses and I can not stand Mask of Vitiation. Haven't ran into AV version thank goodness.
I don't think I've seen any AV's with the Mask of Vitiation power, but I bet they'd be a royal pain in the.... tentacles.


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I dare you to take on Madame of Mystery

Powers:

Mask of Vitiation (Ranged) Foe -Defense, -Regeneration, -Recovery
The Ring Mistress' Mask of Vitiation has drained your vitality. She has drained some endurance, as well as reduced your Defense, Hit Points Regeneration and Endurance Recovery!

Subdue Ranged, Psionic, Foe Immobilize
Subdue deals moderate damage and may leave the targeted foe Immobilized for a brief time. Immobilized foes can not move but can still attack.

Petrify (Ranged) Foe Hold
The Ring Mistress has petrified you.

Twilight Grasp Ranged, Foe -Accuracy, -Damage, Team Heal
The Dark Ring Mistress channels negative energy through herself to a targeted foe. Twilight Grasp drains the power from that target and slowly transfers it to yourself and all allies near her. The targeted foe's accuracy and damage is reduced while she and her nearly allies are healed. Twilight Grasp can only heal she and her allies as long as there is a valid target to steal power from.

Now she would be a pain in the tentacles!


 

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I think Mask of Vitation has very low accuracy so as not to be totally overpower it. I know I very rarely actually get hit by it and I have done the level 50 carnie arc via flashback a lot on my scrapper.


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But again not all that difficult. Bobcat got me a few times had to change tatics on her. Neuron again nailed me once really good. Almost 2nd time but I did strategic retreat. Anti Matter actually wasnt bad. Full tray of insp helped there. Got him down and 1sec later light form crash (really lucky)
Is your build basically all Blapper and Proc'd?


He will honor his words; he will definitely carry out his actions. What he promises he will fulfill. He does not care about his bodily self, putting his life and death aside to come forward for another's troubled besiegement. He does not boast about his ability, or shamelessly extol his own virtues. - Sima Qian.

 

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Originally Posted by Socorro View Post
The statement doesn't make sense any other way? If she mean't when teamed, well, any AT can 'easily' take AVs on a team of 8.
I don't know about not making sense, people experience different things and could worry about things to come in some way or another.


He will honor his words; he will definitely carry out his actions. What he promises he will fulfill. He does not care about his bodily self, putting his life and death aside to come forward for another's troubled besiegement. He does not boast about his ability, or shamelessly extol his own virtues. - Sima Qian.

 

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I dare you to take on Madame of Mystery...
...Now she would be a pain in the tentacles!
Yikes! Sounds very ouchy to me.

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I think Mask of Vitiation has very low accuracy so as not to be totally overpower it. I know I very rarely actually get hit by it and I have done the level 50 carnie arc via flashback a lot on my scrapper.
Don't know about Scrappers, but whenever my PB faced a Carnie that had that power, I know I was hit rather hard. Not hard enough to kill me, just hard enough so the only thing I could do is tank the Carnie with taunts but not have enough endurance to actually activate any powers and maintain anything but Dwarf-form.


I believe that a Kheldian Gold Standard should be based on SO's, and for anything above that... there's Platinum!

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Working a human blapper PB myself, atm - 36 if memory serves.

I just respec'd out of Tough/Weave due to the end issues and to get some PB powers I felt I was missing out on. Survivability down, DPS up... real shocker.

Can't make up mind what the final build needs to look like.


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I'm sorry, but if you're taking on AV class villains solo, you're probably actually only taking them on as Elite Bosses.


 

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Using inspirations goes a long way for any class, we have been theorising on a few threads that a PB and a WS built right could probably solo some without insps, so a decent build + insps should be able to solo one.

It likely wouldn't have been fast or pretty though.


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