Looking for pvp infogeeks for a couple of questions


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Any insight would be appreciated. Not sure if I'm making a mistake with my math somewhere, but this just isn't adding up for me.
That does seem to be too much of a discrepancy. I'm not in a position to do so now, but I will try to recheck the DR constants for recharge to make sure they haven't changed since the last time I looked. Perhaps my DR calculator is out of date for that attribute.

Its also possible that DR is kicking in on global recharge bonuses specifically, but if it is then I believe that is not the intended behavior.


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I just tested with summon guardian because it is a 900 sec base rech power so I figured no way I could screw up a difference in time.

97.7 rech slotting
81.25 global rech

Observed recharge time. 391 seconds

Expected rech time:
1.7825 --> 1.3033 DR'd

900/2.3033 = 390.74 seconds

*If it was "double" DR'ing it would have been 404.9 seconds.

So I'm not sure how to explain what you saw repeatedly LuxunS


 

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Originally Posted by Frosticus View Post
I just tested with summon guardian because it is a 900 sec base rech power so I figured no way I could screw up a difference in time.

97.7 rech slotting
81.25 global rech

Observed recharge time. 391 seconds

Expected rech time:
1.7825 --> 1.3033 DR'd

900/2.3033 = 390.74 seconds

*If it was "double" DR'ing it would have been 404.9 seconds.

So I'm not sure how to explain what you saw repeatedly LuxunS
You know I was thinking. I know I wasn't doing anything wrong, and i'm pretty sure that your testing was sound. So, why are we getting completely different results? I thought maybe...

The recharge cur is different for different archetypes
or
Something is off with mind link

Only other long recharge power I have is aura of confusion at 240s. I went and looked at that, and it does indeed match up mathematically and ingame with what your results have shown. The only conclusion I can come to is that there's something wrong with mind link recharge. Maybe it has to do with the power doesn't follow the normal recharge rules and has to use IOs to get the bonuses or something else. *shrug*


 

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Originally Posted by LuxunS View Post
The recharge cur is different for different archetypes
or
Something is off with mind link
Its basically impossible for DR to affect different powers in different ways, because the DR code basically looks at the attributes, not the powers.

But it *is* possible for DR to affect different archetypes differently, and in fact that happens with things in damage resistance deliberately in the case of tankers. But I don't think different archetypes had different DR parameters for recharge. I will check on that as soon as I can.

Just one problem with that: my home PC went kaboom last night, so I will need to deal with that first. Might be a good excuse to invest in an I7 desktop. Also, I've been wondering about this bad boy.

I *think* I can get the DR values on my laptop, but it might not happen until the weekend. And I'm going to be travelling for a few days starting tomorrow. I'll see what I can do though.


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Its basically impossible for DR to affect different powers in different ways, because the DR code basically looks at the attributes, not the powers.

But it *is* possible for DR to affect different archetypes differently, and in fact that happens with things in damage resistance deliberately in the case of tankers. But I don't think different archetypes had different DR parameters for recharge. I will check on that as soon as I can.
It's been a long while, but I believe there was some concern when DR first appeared that an error or two might be lurking in it. Since each AT had independent values for each attribute, it would have been very hard to double check every single one of them. But even if Widows did have a misaligned DR Recharge setting, wouldn't that affect Aura of Confusion too? Luxun S seemed to think AoC was recharging 'properly.'

Is it possible that Mind Link's base recharge is screwed up? As I recall, recharge can't vary between PvP and PvE, and it seems hard to believe no one would have noticed an extra, err... 140*2.3-300= 22 seconds being tacked on. But it would explain why ML's the only power misbehaving.

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Just one problem with that: my home PC went kaboom last night, so I will need to deal with that first. Might be a good excuse to invest in an I7 desktop. Also, I've been wondering about this bad boy.
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I just went to warburg to test my total recharge and the recharge attributes were identical, even though everything else was lower.

Mid's needs to add this option to its totals window.


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