I look at it this way. With the TT and burn combo, you have to line yourself up right to grab enough of the mob with TT. Then you can get in the middle and burn them.
With fireball, you target the one in the middle of the mob, left it fly, and everyone gets burned.
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Just take Fireball.|
Originally Posted by macskull
Been tooling around in Mids for a while now, trying to come up with a good build for my Spines/Fire. Now that Blaze mastery is here, I can't skip on teh sexay that is Fireball (or so I think, at least). I'll mostly be using this Scrapper for farming for drops - think a difficulty of -1x8 with bosses off, or bosses on if I'm feeling adventurous. Here's the problem: I'm having a heck of a time trying to fit in the CJ/SS combination, adding Tough to the build, and being able to take an APP AoE, whether that is Tenebrous Tentacles or Fireball. I'd also like to take Burn but can't seem to fit it in - if I take TT I'd like Burn a bit more because I could keep mobs immob'd in it, but would I need Burn if I took Fireball?
Any help would be appreciated, I may post a build I've been working on when I get back from school. |
If you're fighting a million wimps you'll waste a lot of time lining up tentacles and getting in position to burn.
With spines, what's the point?
Fireball > Throw Spines > Spine Burst, then clean up the stragglers and move on.
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Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.601
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Level 50 Magic Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Spines
Secondary Power Set: Fiery Aura
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fighting
Ancillary Pool: Blaze Mastery
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Lunge -- C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg(A), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(3), C'ngImp-Dmg/Rchg(3), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(5), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(5)
Level 1: Fire Shield -- TtmC'tng-ResDam(A), TtmC'tng-ResDam/EndRdx(7), TtmC'tng-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(7), S'fstPrt-ResKB(9)
Level 2: Spine Burst -- Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(9), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(11), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(11), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(13), EndRdx-I(13)
Level 4: Blazing Aura -- C'ngBlow-Acc/Dmg(A), C'ngBlow-Dmg/EndRdx(25), EndRdx-I(25), C'ngBlow-Acc/Rchg(27)
Level 6: Healing Flames -- Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx(A), Dct'dW-Rchg(21), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(21), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(23), Dct'dW-Heal(23)
Level 8: Build Up -- AdjTgt-ToHit(A), AdjTgt-ToHit/Rchg(43), AdjTgt-ToHit/EndRdx/Rchg(43), AdjTgt-Rchg(46), AdjTgt-ToHit/EndRdx(46)
Level 10: Impale -- Decim-Acc/Dmg(A), Decim-Dmg/EndRdx(17), Decim-Dmg/Rchg(17), Decim-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(19), Decim-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(19)
Level 12: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(15), RechRdx-I(15)
Level 14: Super Speed -- EndRdx-I(A), Run-I(40)
Level 16: Plasma Shield -- TtmC'tng-ResDam(A), TtmC'tng-ResDam/EndRdx(36), TtmC'tng-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(37), S'fstPrt-ResKB(37)
Level 18: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 20: Health -- Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(A), Mrcl-Rcvry+(27)
Level 22: Stamina -- P'Shift-EndMod(A), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(29), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(29), P'Shift-End%(31)
Level 24: Quills -- C'ngBlow-Acc/Dmg(A), C'ngBlow-Dmg/EndRdx(37), EndRdx-I(39), C'ngBlow-Acc/Rchg(40)
Level 26: Ripper -- Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(31), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(31), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(34), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(36)
Level 28: Combat Jumping -- Jump-I(A)
Level 30: Boxing -- Stpfy-KB%(A), Stpfy-Stun/Rng(40)
Level 32: Throw Spines -- Posi-Acc/Dmg(A), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(33), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(33), Posi-Dam%(33), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(34), ImpSwft-Dam%(34)
Level 35: Fiery Embrace -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(36)
Level 38: Tough -- TtmC'tng-ResDam(A), TtmC'tng-ResDam/EndRdx(39), TtmC'tng-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(39)
Level 41: Ring of Fire -- Decim-Acc/Dmg(A), Decim-Dmg/EndRdx(42), Decim-Dmg/Rchg(42), Decim-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(42), Decim-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(43)
Level 44: Fire Blast -- Decim-Acc/Dmg(A), Decim-Dmg/EndRdx(45), Decim-Dmg/Rchg(45), Decim-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(45), Decim-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(46)
Level 47: Fire Ball -- Posi-Acc/Dmg(A), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(48), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(48), Posi-Dam%(48), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(50), RechRdx-I(50)
Level 49: Consume -- P'Shift-Acc/Rchg(A), Efficacy-Acc/Rchg(50)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Critical Hit
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I'd personally use Aegis instead of Titanium Coating, you get a nice elemental/AoE defense bonus at 3 slots.
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Originally Posted by Nethergoat
Just take Fireball.
If you're fighting a million wimps you'll waste a lot of time lining up tentacles and getting in position to burn. With spines, what's the point? Fireball > Throw Spines > Spine Burst, then clean up the stragglers and move on. |
This is my current build on what was my Spine/Fire/Dark, but it now my Spine/Fire/Blaze:
Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.401
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Scrapi, IO: Level 50 Magic Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Spines
Secondary Power Set: Fiery Aura
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leaping
Ancillary Pool: Blaze Mastery
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Lunge
- (A) Hecatomb - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50
- (33) Hecatomb - Damage/Recharge: Level 50
- (37) Hecatomb - Damage: Level 50
- (42) Hecatomb - Damage/Endurance: Level 50
- (46) Hecatomb - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
- (A) Titanium Coating - Resistance: Level 40
- (3) Titanium Coating - Resistance/Endurance: Level 40
- (5) Titanium Coating - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge: Level 40
- (15) Titanium Coating - Resistance/Recharge: Level 40
- (48) Titanium Coating - Endurance/Recharge: Level 39
- (A) Armageddon - Damage: Level 50
- (3) Armageddon - Damage/Recharge: Level 50
- (7) Armageddon - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50
- (13) Armageddon - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
- (42) Armageddon - Damage/Endurance: Level 50
- (A) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Endurance: Level 40
- (5) Doctored Wounds - Endurance/Recharge: Level 40
- (7) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Recharge: Level 40
- (15) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Endurance/Recharge: Level 40
- (19) Doctored Wounds - Heal: Level 40
- (A) Jumping IO: Level 40
- (A) Apocalypse - Damage: Level 50
- (9) Apocalypse - Damage/Recharge: Level 50
- (9) Apocalypse - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50
- (13) Apocalypse - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
- (45) Apocalypse - Damage/Endurance: Level 50
- (A) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 40
- (11) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 40
- (11) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 40
- (A) Karma - Knockback Protection: Level 30
- (43) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 39
- (A) Jumping IO: Level 40
- (A) Titanium Coating - Resistance/Endurance: Level 40
- (17) Titanium Coating - Resistance/Recharge: Level 40
- (17) Titanium Coating - Endurance/Recharge: Level 40
- (19) Titanium Coating - Resistance: Level 40
- (37) Titanium Coating - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge: Level 40
- (48) Steadfast Protection - Knockback Protection: Level 30
- (A) Numina's Convalescence - +Regeneration/+Recovery: Level 40
- (43) Miracle - +Recovery: Level 39
- (A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End: Level 40
- (21) Performance Shifter - EndMod: Level 40
- (21) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Recharge: Level 40
- (A) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage: Level 50
- (23) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
- (23) Obliteration - Damage: Level 50
- (27) Obliteration - Damage/Recharge: Level 50
- (34) Obliteration - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
- (36) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50
- (A) Obliteration - Damage: Level 50
- (25) Obliteration - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
- (25) Obliteration - Damage/Recharge: Level 50
- (27) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50
- (34) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
- (34) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage: Level 50
- (A) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge: Level 50
- (29) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge/Endurance: Level 50
- (40) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Recharge/Endurance: Level 50
- (A) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
- (29) Obliteration - Damage: Level 50
- (45) Obliteration - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
- (45) Obliteration - Damage/Recharge: Level 50
- (46) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50
- (A) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage: Level 50
- (31) Obliteration - Damage: Level 50
- (31) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50
- (31) Obliteration - Damage/Recharge: Level 50
- (40) Obliteration - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
- (A) Ragnarok - Damage: Level 50
- (33) Ragnarok - Damage/Recharge: Level 50
- (33) Ragnarok - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50
- (37) Ragnarok - Chance for Knockdown: Level 50
- (42) Ragnarok - Damage/Endurance: Level 50
- (43) Ragnarok - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
- (A) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 40
- (36) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 40
- (36) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 40
- (A) Performance Shifter - EndMod: Level 50
- (39) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Recharge: Level 50
- (39) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
- (39) Performance Shifter - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
- (40) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Accuracy: Level 50
- (46) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End: Level 50
- (A) Accuracy IO: Level 40
- (A) Accuracy IO: Level 40
- (A) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage: Level 50
- (48) Positron's Blast - Damage/Recharge: Level 50
- (50) Positron's Blast - Damage/Endurance: Level 50
- (50) Positron's Blast - Damage/Range: Level 50
- (50) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance: Level 50
- (A) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 40
Level 1: Brawl
- (A) Empty
- (A) Celerity - +Stealth: Level 39
- (A) Empty
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Set Bonus Totals:
- 18.5% DamageBuff(Smashing)
- 18.5% DamageBuff(Lethal)
- 18.5% DamageBuff(Fire)
- 18.5% DamageBuff(Cold)
- 18.5% DamageBuff(Energy)
- 18.5% DamageBuff(Negative)
- 18.5% DamageBuff(Toxic)
- 18.5% DamageBuff(Psionic)
- 3.75% Defense(Smashing)
- 3.75% Defense(Lethal)
- 1.56% Defense(Fire)
- 1.56% Defense(Cold)
- 7.5% Defense(Melee)
- 3.13% Defense(AoE)
- 90% Enhancement(Accuracy)
- 78.8% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
- 4% Enhancement(Heal)
- 15% FlySpeed
- 155.6 HP (11.6%) HitPoints
- 15% JumpHeight
- 15% JumpSpeed
- Knockback (Mag -8)
- Knockup (Mag -8)
- MezResist(Held) 5.5%
- MezResist(Sleep) 4.4%
- MezResist(Stun) 11%
- MezResist(Terrorized) 2.2%
- 17% (0.28 End/sec) Recovery
- 16% (0.89 HP/sec) Regeneration
- 10.4% Resistance(Fire)
- 10.4% Resistance(Cold)
- 5% Resistance(Toxic)
- 15% RunSpeed
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Sorry, but I'm gonna have to thread jack you. 
This is the build I've come up with for mine. It's basically one I'm going to immediately respec into so I can begin farming effectively solo. Therefore, I avoided purple sets because I don't have the inf. for them at the moment.
I'd appreciate any advice/comments. Thanks in advance.
Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.401
http://www.cohplanner.com/
Click this DataLink to open the build!
Hallowing farm: Level 50 Magic Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Spines
Secondary Power Set: Fiery Aura
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Speed
Ancillary Pool: Blaze Mastery
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Lunge -- C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg:50(A), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx:50(11), C'ngImp-Dmg/Rchg:50(15), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(39), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:50(39), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(40)
Level 1: Fire Shield -- ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx:40(A), ImpArm-ResDam:40(3), Aegis-ResDam:50(7), S'fstPrt-ResKB:30(46)
Level 2: Spine Burst -- Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(A), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(3), Oblit-Dmg:50(5), Oblit-Acc/Rchg:50(9), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg:50(13)
Level 4: Healing Flames -- Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg:50(A), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg:50(5), Dct'dW-Heal:50(7), Dct'dW-Rchg:50(9), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx:50(15)
Level 6: Boxing -- Acc-I:50(A)
Level 8: Build Up -- AdjTgt-Rchg:50(A), AdjTgt-ToHit/Rchg:50(11), AdjTgt-ToHit/EndRdx/Rchg:50(39)
Level 10: Swift -- Run-I:50(A)
Level 12: Combat Jumping -- Krma-ResKB:30(A), LkGmblr-Rchg+:50(13)
Level 14: Super Jump -- SprngFt-Jump:50(A)
Level 16: Impale -- Decim-Acc/Dmg:40(A), Decim-Dmg/EndRdx:40(17), Decim-Dmg/Rchg:40(17), Decim-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg:40(19), Decim-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:40(19), Decim-Build%:40(23)
Level 18: Health -- Mrcl-Rcvry+:40(A), Numna-Regen/Rcvry+:50(31)
Level 20: Stamina -- P'Shift-EndMod:50(A), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg:50(21), P'Shift-End%:50(21)
Level 22: Blazing Aura -- Oblit-Dmg:30(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg:50(23), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg:50(34), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(34), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(37), Oblit-%Dam:50(37)
Level 24: Consume -- Efficacy-EndMod/Acc/Rchg:50(A), Efficacy-Acc/Rchg:50(25), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc:50(25), Efficacy-EndMod:50(27), Efficacy-EndMod/Rchg:50(29), Efficacy-EndMod/EndRdx:50(31)
Level 26: Plasma Shield -- ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx:40(A), ImpArm-ResDam:40(27), Aegis-ResDam:50(31)
Level 28: Quills -- Oblit-Dmg:50(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg:50(29), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg:50(33), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(34), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(36), Oblit-%Dam:50(37)
Level 30: Hasten -- RechRdx-I:50(A), RechRdx-I:50(33), RechRdx-I:50(33)
Level 32: Throw Spines -- Posi-Acc/Dmg:50(A), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx:50(42), Posi-Dmg/Rchg:50(43), Posi-Dmg/Rng:50(43), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:50(43), Posi-Dam%:50(45)
Level 35: Tough -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+:30(A), ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx:40(36), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx:50(36), S'fstPrt-ResKB:30(46), Aegis-Psi/Status:50(46)
Level 38: Ripper -- Oblit-Dmg:50(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg:50(40), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg:50(40), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(42), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(42)
Level 41: Ring of Fire -- Acc-I:50(A)
Level 44: Melt Armor -- RechRdx-I:50(A), RechRdx-I:50(45), RechRdx-I:50(45)
Level 47: Fire Ball -- Posi-Acc/Dmg:50(A), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:50(48), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx:50(48), Posi-Dmg/Rchg:50(48), Posi-Dmg/Rng:50(50)
Level 49: Fiery Embrace -- RechRdx-I:50(A), RechRdx-I:50(50), RechRdx-I:50(50)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Critical Hit
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@Ninth Cloud
Justice
Hey Mac,
This is my planned build, I normally farm demons, It was hard to fit in Fireball. Here is the build.
(note* You could always replace Weave with Consume or Throw Spines but I wanted the extra defense, I normally don't have end issues on my builds)
Edit* to include data chunk
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Fight my brute
Been tooling around in Mids for a while now, trying to come up with a good build for my Spines/Fire. Now that Blaze mastery is here, I can't skip on teh sexay that is Fireball (or so I think, at least). I'll mostly be using this Scrapper for farming for drops - think a difficulty of -1x8 with bosses off, or bosses on if I'm feeling adventurous. Here's the problem: I'm having a heck of a time trying to fit in the CJ/SS combination, adding Tough to the build, and being able to take an APP AoE, whether that is Tenebrous Tentacles or Fireball. I'd also like to take Burn but can't seem to fit it in - if I take TT I'd like Burn a bit more because I could keep mobs immob'd in it, but would I need Burn if I took Fireball?
Any help would be appreciated, I may post a build I've been working on when I get back from school.
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