Dual Blades recharge question


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If I wanted to run BF--Sweep combo non stop how much recharge would I need in each power?


 

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Originally Posted by MunkiLord View Post
If I wanted to run BF--Sweep combo non stop how much recharge would I need in each power?
Since Sweep is 1K>PS>TE, the attack string would then be BF>1K>PS>TE.

BF: 1.452 sec animation, 12 sec base recharge, 7.524 sec required recharge, 59% +rech required
1K: 3.432 sec animation, 15 sec base recharge, 5.544 sec required recharge, 170% +rech required
PS: 1.584 sec animation, 5 sec base recharge, 7.392 sec required recharge, 0% +rech required
TE: 2.508 sec animation, 12 sec base recharge, 6.468 sec required recharge, 85% +rech required


 

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Alternately you could use attack vitals + sweep non stop with minimal +rech needed and potentially output more dps ( though I'm not sure of that).


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Thanks for the info Umbral.

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Originally Posted by Lohenien View Post
Alternately you could use attack vitals + sweep non stop with minimal +rech needed and potentially output more dps ( though I'm not sure of that).
That's currently what I'm doing(lvl 39), but I'm looking to free up some power choices so I can fit in tough/weave and physical perfection. I'm not even sure I'm gonna go for it, just looking at some options.


 

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I have different numbers than you, Umbral. That's new!

Looks like you have the wrong Arcanatime for Power Slice. It should be (roundup(1.03/.132)+1)*.132 = 1.188. Since it's shorter, the required recharges are shorter. I have:

BF: 1.452 sec Arcanatime, 12 sec base recharge, 7.128 sec required recharge, 69% +rech required
1K: 3.432 sec animation, 15 sec base recharge, 5.148 sec required recharge, 192% +rech required
PS: 1.188 sec animation, 5 sec base recharge, 7.392 sec required recharge, 0% +rech required
TE: 2.508 sec animation, 12 sec base recharge, 6.072 sec required recharge, 98% +rech required


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Alternately you could use attack vitals + sweep non stop with minimal +rech needed and potentially output more dps ( though I'm not sure of that).
Oh, sure, you could do that. And yeah, it would do better single-target DPS. But it wouldn't be as COOL.


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Originally Posted by Werner View Post
I have different numbers than you, Umbral. That's new!
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PS: 1.188 sec animation, 5 sec base recharge, 7.392 sec required recharge, 0% +rech required
You sure that's right? City of Data and the in game information agrees with me that it's a base activation time of 1.4 seconds that gets turned into 1.584 second with Arcanatime.


 

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Originally Posted by Umbral View Post
You sure that's right? City of Data and the in game information agrees with me that it's a base activation time of 1.4 seconds that gets turned into 1.584 second with Arcanatime.
Hmmm, looks like you're right. In game says 1.40, which would be 1.584 like you say. I pulled my number from Mids', and I don't think it's just the new Mids', because I have that same bad number written down from quite a while ago.


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Originally Posted by Novawulfe View Post
IS it wrong to love all the combos?
Wait... people actually like, much less love, Empower and Weaken? o.O

From an optimization standpoint, it's not really worth it to love all of the combos at once. In general, you're better off choosing one because otherwise you're gonna be hurting for power choices.


 

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Wait... people actually like, much less love, Empower and Weaken? o.O

From an optimization standpoint, it's not really worth it to love all of the combos at once. In general, you're better off choosing one because otherwise you're gonna be hurting for power choices.
Hey hey don't be hatin, once I find a secondary I like to use with Db, I'll be running a db scrapper.... Only for the fact of all the combos, it'll be my fun toon, as to serious scrapper, Silence.


 

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Question: Would fitting Sweeping Strike into the BF>Sweeping Combo attack chain be a good idea? I realize it's not part of the Sweep Combo, it is another cone and seems to do good damage.


 

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Originally Posted by MunkiLord View Post
Question: Would fitting Sweeping Strike into the BF>Sweeping Combo attack chain be a good idea? I realize it's not part of the Sweep Combo, it is another cone and seems to do good damage.
I wouldn't really recommend it. The primary advantage of the BF>Sweep string is that it's excellent mitigation and decent AoE damage. It's not really a killing combo. It's more of a tanking/survivability combo thanks to the loads of knockdown.


 

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With fire as my secondary I figured I would run maybe the demon map or something similar for fun, so mitigation isn't a huge concern for me. On top of the fire resist I'll also have 31.7 melee and 27.something ranged defense, at least that is what my first draft build looks like.


 

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Hey hey don't be hatin, once I find a secondary I like to use with Db, I'll be running a db scrapper.... Only for the fact of all the combos, it'll be my fun toon, as to serious scrapper, Silence.
I actually have a DB/WP/soul brute with all the combos, all the wp powers except the res, fitness, and 3 of the patron powers. Having all of the combos is not what its cracked up to be. After you see the pure total flashy bad a**ness of what is sweep and attack vitals, you will forget all about weaken and empower. You will find yourself forcing yourself to use them and getting upset when one of the attacks miss. After you manage to pull off all 4 combos on one mob seemlessly once or twice, that desire to have all four combos will fade fast. Ill be doing a respec when that brute's turn comes around in my alt rotation.


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