1. Yes
2. Yes, you need to use one of each. the Unique tag means you can only have one per character slotted, every IO set is technically unique within the same power.
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1. All of the IOs have to go in the same power to get the bonuses. However for non-unique IOs you can have multiple copies of the set in different powers in which case the bonuses stack (subject to the law of fives).|
Originally Posted by Deep_T
I am confused on how these work, exactly as far as the set bonus.
1. Do all the set IOs have to go into the same power to get the set bonus? 2. Do you need to use one of each type in the set or can you use multiple (non-unique) IOs of the same type IE: Damage / Accuracy to satisfy the number needed for the set bonus? On this last one, a lot of the enhancers in a set do not have things I am interested in and I would not want to have to use a set type that has something in it that I do not care about enhancing. |
2. No, each power can only have one of a particular set IO. You may be interested in Frankenslotting which is where you slot IOs from multiple different sets in order to increase the performance of the power at the cost of not getting and set bonuses.
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Originally Posted by Deep_T
I am confused on how these work, exactly as far as the set bonus.
1. Do all the set IOs have to go into the same power to get the set bonus? |
If you slot your two Numina in one power you'll get 12% Regen increase (iirc, think the health is at 3 slotted...)
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| 2. Do you need to use one of each type in the set or can you use multiple (non-unique) IOs of the same type IE: Damage / Accuracy to satisfy the number needed for the set bonus? |
Say you have Health, it takes Healing sets.
You could put 3 Numina for the Health and Regen bonus OR you could put the Numina Unique AND a Miracle Unique And a Regen Tissue Unique. Or say my Rad Blast Corruptor: She has two Nucleolus Exposure and 4 'procs' (Apocalypse, Shield Breaker, Achilles Heel, etc).
Now, if you wanted to you could "Frankenslot" your attack: 1 Thunderstrike, 1 Decimation, 1 Devastation, 1 normal IO...you wouldn't get set bonuses but you would get a nice amount of Damage, Accuracy, etc.
A single power won't take multiples of a name though. So you can't slot say, two Scirocco Damage/End in the same power.
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You can add 3 Devastation for 12% Regen/2.25% Health then add 3 Decimation for more health etc.
Just bear in mind the 5x rule.
The Law of Fives
While a character can slot the same (full or partial) set multiple times in different powers, he cannot benefit from more than five copies of each named set bonus of the exact same attribute and amount. This is a stronger restriction than simply being limiting to five copies of each set. It means that if two different sets give the same size bonus to the same thing, the character can't get more than 5x that bonus even if he uses a mix of sets.
Example: The Kinetic Combat set can give +1.5% Max Health and +3.3% Immobilization Resistance. The Mako's Bite set can give +1.5% Max Health and +2.75% Immobilization Resistance. If a character slots four partial sets of both, he will receive the full total of 24.2% Immobilization Resistance but only +7.5% Max Health because he cannot get more than five Max Health bonuses of exactly +1.5%. Castle further elaborated on the rule of five in I13 Closed Beta saying that the exclusion of more than five of the same bonuses is based on the name of the bonus and not its value. For example, a character can benefit from up to five global benefits of Luck of the Gambler: Defense/Increased Recharge Speed, which gives a global +7.5% bonus to Recharge Rate, as well as up to five set bonuses of +7.5% Recharge. That's because the first bonus is named "Luck of the Gambler: Recharge Speed" while the second is "Huge Recharge Bonus". One can find the names of the bonuses listed in the Combat Attributes window.
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I guess I was not clear on my second question:
If I am using the Numina set, there are 3 different Numina IOs. Do I need to put one of each kind of Numina in my power, or can I use the same Numina IO multiple times and get a set bonus?
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No you were clear, I guess we weren't clear in our response. The answer is no. A particular IO can only be placed once in each power so you cannot (for example) place multiple Numina: End/Heal IOs in the same power.
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Originally Posted by Deep_T
I guess I was not clear on my second question:
If I am using the Numina set, there are 3 different Numina IOs. Do I need to put one of each kind of Numina in my power, or can I use the same Numina IO multiple times and get a set bonus? |
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Alright, so if I look at all the IOs in a set, and I do not like the 'end result' then I can skip that set unless I want a lesser set bonus.
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Yes. Although sometimes it's worth it. For example a lot of /Devices Blasters will slot Gaussians full set in Targeting Drone for the defense bonuses even though the overall slotting is sub-par for six slots (personally I don't do it). Conversely for some powers slotting with a mix of the same IO from different sets is better than slotting with either a single set or generics. Fro example slotting two of the same type level 50 dual aspect IOs is better than slotting two different common IOs.
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Originally Posted by Deep_T
Alright, so if I look at all the IOs in a set, and I do not like the 'end result' then I can skip that set unless I want a lesser set bonus.
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Not so great with the hero theme either.
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I really recommend not using this color if you're going to color-format your links. It is awful if you're using the villain theme.
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P-wiki has a very good in-depth article regarding IO's. You may also want to follow some of the links within the article to get a full idea of how it all works. There is also this handy page of charts that shows set IO's & their bonuses. I often refer to this page when trying to plug holes in a build. 
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P-wiki has a very good in-depth article regarding IO's. You may also want to follow some of the links within the article to get a full idea of how it all works. There is also this handy page of charts that shows set IO's & their bonuses. I often refer to this page when trying to plug holes in a build.
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And speaking of not-so-good color choices...
I know that those who use the hero-side forum were used to bold green hyperlinks, but you're forcing them on us who use the villain-side skin and it looks horrible.
Use Firefox and check out the skin adjustment in my sig if you want the old blue forum look back.
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I use your Stylish file Zombie, and I don't mind the Green at all (as long as it's bold). Yellow and Dark/Orange aren't bad either. Cyan is my favorite, but I'm unsure how it looks on Hero. I guess I'm going to have to check before I use it again. lol|
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And speaking of not-so-good color choices...
I know that those who use the hero-side forum were used to bold green hyperlinks, but you're forcing them on us who use the villain-side skin and it looks horrible. Use Firefox and check out the skin adjustment in my sig if you want the old blue forum look back. |
Edit: Cyan doesn't seem to be the best choice either, but it's still readable. I think I'd choose the "Lime" over the Cyan anyway. To each his own.. I guess.
BTW, I agree that I can't even read the dark Blue that Neuronia used either. Ouch!
I am confused on how these work, exactly as far as the set bonus.
1. Do all the set IOs have to go into the same power to get the set bonus?
2. Do you need to use one of each type in the set or can you use multiple (non-unique) IOs of the same type IE: Damage / Accuracy to satisfy the number needed for the set bonus?
On this last one, a lot of the enhancers in a set do not have things I am interested in and I would not want to have to use a set type that has something in it that I do not care about enhancing.