Total lockdown?

Each control power has a cap in the number it will control. The number varies with the type of control. The best place to check for your particular power is Red Tomax's City of Data.


In general AoE control powers have a limit of 16. This includes the AoE Immobilize, Hold, Stun and Sleep powers. Cone-type powers usually have a limit of 10. This includes Mind's Terrorize and Dark Miasma's Fearsome Stare. Some other types have a limit of 10, like Earth's Earthquake and Ice's Ice Slick. Some control powers are considered to be "pets" by the game and may have unique methods how they work -- Illusion's Spectral Terror has a limit of 10 for the Cloak of Fear, but then it has a single target Terrorize power. Earth's Volcanic Gasses has pet geysers that only hit 5 per pulse, but can stack holds and have (I think) up to 3 geysers out at a time.

Enhancements will increase the duration of the hold but will not increase the number -- except in odd situations due to the mechanics. Hold enhancements in Volcanic Gasses and Choking Cloud may result in more foes being held at any one time by extending the hold beyond the next pulse.

If most AoE holds have a max of 16 then a 'troller with /TA can technically hold up 32 foes with two attacks, the main powerset AoE hold and EMP arrow. Slot each of those with a chance of +2 hold proc from Lockdown you could technically hold bosses in large spawns with one shot as well.

But that circumstance is a bit hypothetical!

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You somewhat oversimplify the effect of Choking Cloud. It is not very effective a a primary control because it can take up to 5 seconds for the first pulse to hit, and then if it hits there is a only a 50% chance that even a minion will be held by any pulse, and only a 40% chance for any Lieutenant . . . then you have to wait another 5 seconds for another 50%/40% chance. However, as secondary control, after an AoE stun or hold, it can be effective. My Ill/Rad guide discusses the mechanics of Choking Cloud. (But the Lockdown proc works great in Choking Cloud -- I have it on my Fire/Rad.)

There really aren't any "quick-recharging" AoE stun or hold powers (other than maybe Storm's Thunderclap, but that is only Mag 2) that work as primary control -- depending on what you consider to be "quick-recharging." I would consider that to be something that recharges fast enough to be perma with slotting.