Ice/Kin?


Ahmon

 

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I keep hearing about the fabled Ice/Kin, how it turns bosses into crying children and lays frozen ruin to entire cities with a flick of a hand. That being said. Which powers are skippable? The ones I keep hearing from my friends are Ice Storm (causes scattering), Increase Density (is a pain to recast, plus I'm already casting Speed Boost), Inertial Reduction (nice ghetto travel power, but isn't completely needed), Repel (eats more End than a starving Malta Sapper) and Bitter Freeze Ray (long cast time is long). I'm also thinking of taking the Leviathan pool for IC purposes, not to mention Hibernate in case of emergencies, and most likely Leaping, in addition to Fitness and maybe Hasten, possibly Assault if I have a free space. Can anyone tell me if I'm on the right track?


 

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How the hell do you get the idea that Inertial Reduction is a ghetto travel power?

Ice Storm is a very nice AoE. It does have an avoid attached, but it will slow enemies and it is worth taking. I'd like to see a build to comment more than that.


 

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[color:#489AFF]Villain Plan by Mids' Villain Designer 1.401[/color]
[color:#489AFF]http://www.cohplanner.com/[/color]

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[color:#B3CAF7]Level 48 Magic Corruptor[/color]
[color:#489AFF]Primary Power Set: [/color][color:#B3CAF7]Ice Blast[/color]
[color:#489AFF]Secondary Power Set: [/color][color:#B3CAF7]Kinetics[/color]
[color:#489AFF]Power Pool: [/color][color:#B3CAF7]Fitness[/color]
[color:#489AFF]Power Pool: [/color][color:#B3CAF7]Speed[/color]
[color:#489AFF]Power Pool: [/color][color:#B3CAF7]Leaping[/color]
[color:#489AFF]Power Pool: [/color][color:#B3CAF7]Leadership[/color]
[color:#489AFF]Ancillary Pool: [/color][color:#B3CAF7]Leviathan Mastery[/color]

[color:#489AFF]Villain Profile:[/color]
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 1:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Ice Bolt[/color] [color:#489AFF]--[/color] [color:#5EAEFF]Empty[/color](A)
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 1:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Transfusion[/color] [color:#489AFF]--[/color] [color:#5EAEFF]Empty[/color](A)
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 2:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Ice Blast[/color] [color:#489AFF]--[/color] [color:#5EAEFF]Empty[/color](A)
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 4:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Siphon Power[/color] [color:#489AFF]--[/color] [color:#5EAEFF]Empty[/color](A)
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 6:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Frost Breath[/color] [color:#489AFF]--[/color] [color:#5EAEFF]Empty[/color](A)
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 8:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Freeze Ray[/color] [color:#489AFF]--[/color] [color:#5EAEFF]Empty[/color](A)
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 10:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Siphon Speed[/color] [color:#489AFF]--[/color] [color:#5EAEFF]Empty[/color](A)
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 12:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Hurdle[/color] [color:#489AFF]--[/color] [color:#5EAEFF]Empty[/color](A)
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 14:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Health[/color] [color:#489AFF]--[/color] [color:#5EAEFF]Empty[/color](A)
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 16:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Hasten[/color] [color:#489AFF]--[/color] [color:#5EAEFF]Empty[/color](A)
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 18:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Bitter Ice Blast[/color] [color:#489AFF]--[/color] [color:#5EAEFF]Empty[/color](A)
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 20:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Stamina[/color] [color:#489AFF]--[/color] [color:#5EAEFF]Empty[/color](A)
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 22:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Speed Boost[/color] [color:#489AFF]--[/color] [color:#5EAEFF]Empty[/color](A)
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 24:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Combat Jumping[/color] [color:#489AFF]--[/color] [color:#5EAEFF]Empty[/color](A)
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 26:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Assault[/color] [color:#489AFF]--[/color] [color:#5EAEFF]Empty[/color](A)
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 28:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Inertial Reduction[/color] [color:#489AFF]--[/color] [color:#5EAEFF]Empty[/color](A)
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 30:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Tactics[/color] [color:#489AFF]--[/color] [color:#5EAEFF]Empty[/color](A)
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 32:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Blizzard[/color] [color:#489AFF]--[/color] [color:#5EAEFF]Empty[/color](A)
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 35:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Transference[/color] [color:#489AFF]--[/color] [color:#5EAEFF]Empty[/color](A)
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 38:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Fulcrum Shift[/color] [color:#489AFF]--[/color] [color:#5EAEFF]Empty[/color](A)
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 41:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Shark Skin[/color] [color:#489AFF]--[/color] [color:#5EAEFF]Empty[/color](A)
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 44:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Hibernate[/color] [color:#489AFF]--[/color] [color:#5EAEFF]Empty[/color](A)
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 47:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Summon Coralax[/color] [color:#489AFF]--[/color] [color:#5EAEFF]Empty[/color](A)
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 49:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Vengeance[/color] [color:#489AFF]--[/color] [color:#5EAEFF]Empty[/color](A)
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[color:#4FA7FF]Level 1:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Brawl[/color] [color:#489AFF]--[/color] [color:#5EAEFF]Empty[/color](A)
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 1:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Sprint[/color] [color:#489AFF]--[/color] [color:#5EAEFF]Empty[/color](A)
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 2:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Rest[/color] [color:#489AFF]--[/color] [color:#5EAEFF]Empty[/color](A)
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 1:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Scourge[/color]


If there's any problems with how this looks (I mean cosmetically reading this, not power choices), I apologize. For some reason, Mids isn't working well with exporting for me.


 

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Alright, are you looking to team, farm or solo more with this toon? That being said...you really don't need leadership....but if you really want to take it, don't bother with assault.

And Ice Storm does have a scatter, but if you're going to have Blizzard, I'd try to fit in Ice Storm to stack with Blizzard's damage (pop everything, hit Ice Storm, then Blizzard, then either a blue and transference or run like a girl til everything dies).

Overall, it looks decent...kinda hard to mess up the combination. If you're going to team a lot, I'd look into getting ID. It's not a power you have to keep up all the time, but being able to break mezzes on fellow squishies can be useful.


 

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Looks good! I do have some thoughts that you may or may not appreciate, however:

For leveling up, Hasten is a poor choice until the mid-twenties, in my opinion. Stamina and some solid ENDX are needed to make it worth the cost.

Ice Storm should go in for many reasons, including the ones mentioned before.

I don't really see the point in Combat Jumping here aside from some combat mobility to jump in and cast Fulcrum Shift, but I think that Speed Boost alone, not to mention Inertial Reduction can handle combat mobility.

Freeze Ray is nice for leveling up, but with your level 40 respecialization, I highly recommend switching to Bitter Freeze Ray. This may be somewhat controversial, as it cuts way down on Ice's holding potential. However, I think the extra debuff and damage outweigh the extra hold potential, and you will encounter a lot of EBs/AVs from this point onwards. If you can swing both, it's really nice!


 

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I don't think I'd play /Kin without immob protection. You need to be in range of an enemy to heal yourself and getting immobed and plinked to death is no fun. I'm sure it's playable without, but I wouldn't want to do it.

It's a super fun combo though, however you choose to build it I bet you enjoy it. Just try something out and experiment, tweak the build as you go. It's tight though, for me anyway. So much good stuff to try to squeeze in.


 

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hostile_V View Post
If there's any problems with how this looks (I mean cosmetically reading this, not power choices), I apologize. For some reason, Mids isn't working well with exporting for me.
You need to export using the phpbb/zetaboards setting.

Btw Assault is kinda useless on a kin since you have fulcrum.


 

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Here's my softcapped ranged defense build. The only powers I don't take is Bitter Freeze Ray, Repel and Siphon Power.

One thing I'll probably change out eventually is fly for superspeed (keeping hover):

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Alright. This is the standing build for the Corr thus far. Most likely I'll respec somewhere along the line and maybe start with just Ice Blast the next time around.

Villain Plan by Mids' Villain Designer 1.401
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Click this DataLink to open the build!

Level 48 Magic Corruptor
Primary Power Set: Ice Blast
Secondary Power Set: Kinetics
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Leviathan Mastery

Villain Profile:
Level 1: Ice Bolt

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Level 1: Transfusion
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Level 2: Ice Blast
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Level 4: Siphon Power
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Level 6: Frost Breath
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Level 8: Freeze Ray
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Level 10: Siphon Speed
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Level 12: Hurdle
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Level 14: Health
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Level 16: Increase Density
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Level 18: Bitter Ice Blast
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Level 20: Stamina
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Level 22: Speed Boost
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Level 24: Ice Storm
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Level 26: Hasten
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Level 28: Inertial Reduction
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Level 30: Maneuvers
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Level 32: Blizzard
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Level 35: Transference
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Level 38: Fulcrum Shift
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Level 41: Tactics
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Level 44: Shark Skin
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Level 47: Hibernate
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Level 49: Vengeance
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Level 1: Brawl
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Level 1: Sprint
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Level 2: Rest
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Level 1: Scourge