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Ah, ok, gotcha. I guess my math-mind was out to lunch when I read this thread the first time. Sometimes numbers hard and confusing like melted cheese. :P

Thanks for taking the time to clear that up for me.


 

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Here it is! The first big update to the list! Thanks again to everyone who has taken an interest in this Project! The lists, numbers, corrections and feedback have been very helpful!

This is a pretty major update as it now includes all of the reviewers on this forum (34 in all!) Here is a breakdown of all the updates:

  • Main LIST and Complete LIST updated: 96 and 527 arcs listed.
  • Reviewer Section: I have updated the reviewer thread list and summary to reflect the current post #'s and also removed and added a couple of reviewers.
  • Lost Arcs updated (some have been found, yay!)
  • The LIST Stats have been updated as well to reflect the current list figures.
...And some numbers, 'cus numbers are fun!
The Main LIST has been updated and now has 54 more arcs listed!
The Complete LIST has been updated and has 137 more arcs listed!
356 new reviews have been added from 1081 new posts and 16 new threads!
This list now comprises 947 separate reviews of 527 arcs by 34 reviewers!!!

As I have completed the compilation of the reviewer's threads I can begin looking at my to-do list of improvements! I am currently working on a way to display a breakdown of the ratings for each arc and hopefully add links to the original post! Also I'll be trying to find the missing info for the Lost Arcs so they can be reincorporated into the list on the next update.

Enjoy!
-Tahlana


 

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Originally Posted by Tahlana View Post
The Lost Arcs

These are arcs which were reviewed but for which the reviewer left out either the arc name or arc id. I plan to eventually record the in-game rating on arcs and when I do I will get the missing information. Until then, if one of your arcs is listed here, PM me the missing info and I'll add it back into the LIST.

The Consequences of War series of arcs by @ Dalghryn has 2 parts that have been listed under 4 different arc ids by different reviewers and at this point I'm not really sure which part has which id. A bit of help here would be appreciated!

The following is the remaining list of arcs which have incomplete information:

5.0 stars (1 reviews) -- A Warrior's Friend (#>>NO ID<<)
4.0 stars (1 reviews) -- Accidents and Emergencies 105110
5.0 stars (1 reviews) -- Can You Win The Internet? 85544
4.5 stars (1 reviews) -- Destroy Bad Grammar 235007
2.0 stars (1 reviews) -- Hero of Twilight (#>>NO ID<<)
5.0 stars (1 reviews) -- Jerk Hackers! #162482
4.0 stars (1 reviews) -- Plan Bee 102224
4.0 stars (1 reviews) -- Point and Counterpoint – Part One (#>>NO ID<<)
4.0 stars (1 reviews) -- Raiders of the Lost Party Hats 85221
1.0 stars (1 reviews) -- Rise of the Hellions (#>>NO ID<<)
4.5 stars (1 reviews) -- Silver Aged 280017
3.0 stars (1 reviews) -- The Aegis Affair 16376
3.0 stars (1 reviews) -- The Amazing Rat Race 1144
4.0 stars (1 reviews) -- The Ballad of Murky Thecat 77311
4.0 stars (1 reviews) -- The King of Thieves: Part 1 All Hell's Breaking Loose 76190
3.0 stars (1 reviews) -- The naked Elf (#>>NO ID<<)
4.0 stars (1 reviews) -- The Other Heroes 95788 (Invalid)
4.5 stars (1 reviews) -- The Rise and Fall of the Radioactive Bikini Squad 1928
4.0 stars (1 reviews) -- Trouble on Old Mac Donaldson's Farm 124380
4.0 stars (1 reviews) -- Under Locke and Key 39532
5.0 stars (1 reviews) -- Victor’s Online (#>>NO ID<<)
3.5 stars (1 reviews) -- Whack a Mole 2711
4.5 stars (1 reviews) -- Why We Fight 253990
4.0 stars (1 reviews) -- >>NO NAME<< (#25633)
2.0 stars (1 reviews) -- A tale of Past Victory PvPers (1st Draft) (#80830)
fixed all the ones that showed up on the MA search, the others are likely unpublished.

And the updated stats have shown me a couple things:

I am an absolute review [censored] with a tie for the most reviews @11, and my second arc up there with 6 - and a new review today bringing it to 7, and I'm consistent. Both of my arcs are averaging 4.1 stars. And I'm a little surprised that I've got the third most reviews to my name @70, under PoliceWoman and Venture.


 

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Originally Posted by Bubbawheat View Post
fixed all the ones that showed up on the MA search, the others are likely unpublished.

And the updated stats have shown me a couple things:

I am an absolute review [censored] with a tie for the most reviews @11, and my second arc up there with 6 - and a new review today bringing it to 7, and I'm consistent. Both of my arcs are averaging 4.1 stars. And I'm a little surprised that I've got the third most reviews to my name @70, under PoliceWoman and Venture.
Wow thank you so much Bubbawheat for finding that info that's awesome! I'll update that section right now!

And keep up the good (and prolific!) review work


 

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Just a quick update, links have been added for about half of the reviews! Airhead help record all the post-ids for the reviews and now after each arc ID there is a list of the ratings with a link to the original post! Check it out, its cool More to come soon™...


 

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Nice! It would be even better if you either:

A) Sorted the ratings by numerical value (easy)

B) Sorted the ratings by date given (difficult)


 

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I noticed that A Career of Evil is on your list, it should probably be taken off due to the fact that it no longer exists. Since prisoners constantly get taken out and put back in, I decided screw it and took it down permanently.


 

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Originally Posted by LaserJesus View Post
I noticed that A Career of Evil is on your list, it should probably be taken off due to the fact that it no longer exists. Since prisoners constantly get taken out and put back in, I decided screw it and took it down permanently.
That's good! For others who notice glitches in the data, please PM to Tahlana. The review links in particular were gathered by hand, and may send you anywhere on the City of Heroes forum if they're in error.

There seems to be a number of cases of reviews of invalid arcs, particularly arcs that were reviewed harshly. As arcs depart, it'll change the review statistics, which counts rated reviews of valid arcs.

Note that reviewers sometimes do not rate arcs they're reviewing, and for good reasons - typically, they want to see fixes to the arc first. Other reviewers may give a rating with barely a two-line comment (which can also be appropriate). Since this system was put in place, a number of reviewers have gone back and assigned ratings where it wasn't clear. For all these reasons and more, "Number of Reviews" means completely different things with regards to each reviewer, so should not be considered a competition.



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Originally Posted by airhead View Post
Note that reviewers sometimes do not rate arcs they're reviewing, and for good reasons - typically, they want to see fixes to the arc first. Other reviewers may give a rating with barely a two-line comment (which can also be appropriate). Since this system was put in place, a number of reviewers have gone back and assigned ratings where it wasn't clear. For all these reasons and more, "Number of Reviews" means completely different things with regards to each reviewer, so should not be considered a competition.
I personally plan to eventually go through and replay arcs that I've reviewed that have been stated by the author to have been updated, and change the rating accordingly.


 

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Update: 8-18: This week's updates are in!

There are now 98 arcs in the Main LIST and 521 arcs in the Complete LIST! Also, all the reviews listed now have links to their original post!

I have updated the first 5 posts with all the new reviews that have been posted this week. Unfortunately the Complete List is now too large for a single post and has been split into 2 sections.

I am currently working on creating a sortable wikitable ( Rotten CoHmatoes page). Eventually I plan on creating a sequence of pages on the Ouroboros Portal wiki to enhance the usefulness of this Project! I'll post an update here when I've worked out the formatting better and created the pages!

Enjoy!
-Tahlana


 

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Reviewer rankings:

3 highest average raters:

Ozzie Arcane -- 6 arcs reviewed -- 4.67 stars average rating
airhead -- 57 arcs reviewed -- 4.56 stars average rating
Jophiel -- 9 arcs reviewed -- 4.33 stars average rating

3 lowest average raters:

HolyEvilAoD -- 24 arcs reviewed -- 3.08 stars average rating
Venture -- 118 arcs reviewed -- 3.00 stars average rating
LaserJesus -- 35 arcs reviewed -- 2.91 stars average rating

4 most prolific reviewers:
Venture -- 118 arcs reviewed -- 3.00 stars average rating
PoliceWoman -- 92 arcs reviewed -- 3.64 stars average rating
Bubbawheat -- 74 arcs reviewed -- 3.76 stars average rating
Glazius -- 72 arcs reviewed -- 3.53 stars average rating


 

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About the only thing that I'd change if the world were ideal is the order that the ratings are listed. Seeing that an arc received it's lower ratings early on and then consistently had high ratings afterward would at least give the readers and indication that the arc had been significantly improved.

"The Consequences of War - Part 1," for example received its 2 and 3 as the first two ratings, and has received 4s and 5s thereafter in its nine reviews. Significant changes were, in fact, made after the first two reviews (thank you LJ). Of course, with Venture looming on the horizon, that may change, but still, it does let a reader see trends.

That said, the entire thought is for conversation's sake only. The amount of work that would be required would be time prohibitive. I just thought I'd toss the thought out there for conversation's sake. It's better than simply typing, "Bump."

By the way, Powers-that-be, where's the sticky this thread deserves?


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"The Consequences of War" - Arcs # 227331 and 241496

 

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Actually, ordering the ratings is theoretically possible with the post id being pretty close to chronological order (at least since the forum migration). Tahlana has the data in Excel, tabulated by arc name/number against reviewer-rating and reviewer-postid. Excel is predisposed to sorting of data, but re-sorting the rows and columns just for posting would be tedious. If Excel had a SORT(array) function in the math formulae, it would perhaps be trivial.

Meanwhile, mouse-over the reviews, latest review has the highest "p=" number.

Hopefully more will be possible through Tahlana's other experiments underway (described above). This really is a great initiative.



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Hi everyone! I'm sorry I didn't get a chance to post an update for this week, I've been super busy lately but I'm not gone! I'll be working on updates here and on the wiki next Tuesday and Wednesday.

As for the sorting stuff, I kinda wish I'd done this as a database, but as it stands it's a spreadsheet. Unless someone knows a way of treating the information in a single cell as a data structure (like an array) to run a sort function on, I don't know how I can sort the listed reviews in a meaningful way. The list on the wiki does show the breakdown of reviews with the reviewer's name, which is useful.

As it stands the reviews are listed in the order the Reviewers appear in my spreadsheet, which is somewhat random. For what it's worth, the Reviewers are listed roughly in the order I found their threads on the forums.

Thanks and check back here on 9/9 for updates!
Tahlana