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Originally Posted by LordXenite
Are you saying you can ever have enough Kheldians?
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haha, no... Actually I had just rolled a 4th Kheld (my 2nd Peacebringer) not too long ago... She's still a low lvl though...
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Originally Posted by LordXenite
Actually, I can't imagine doing that myself because I'm not as focused on builds but rather on strategy and gameplay. What you describe though is exactly what I hated about WoW and feared would happen in CoX once the Invention system came to be: Gear makes people stationary and not want to play and do anything that involves making new characters.
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Me? Afraid of making new characters? I've got at least 44 I've rolled! Haha! I'm the definition of an alt-aholic! :P That said, all characters I've rolled have been on Freedom... Not necessarily because the gear there makes me stationary, but because of the amount of life-long friends I've made over there (in game and in r/l) as well as the difficulty of earning a lot prestige by yourself for a SG (I prefer to run my own SG).
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Originally Posted by LordXenite
That would be awesome, but in the meantime, how about we wait until the Test Server opens up to the public again and then do Lv50 TF's there? We could all just copy our characters there and TF till the end of time! Deal?
Heck! Now that I think of it, we could use this as an Event to show people how awesome Kheldians truly are, and let them come cheer us on in Cimerora for example between ITF missions!  |
Yeah, let's see if we can't get something like that started up, shall we?"The One"
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Originally Posted by Infernus_Hades
The way you play changes your IO slotting..
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76 characters and Twenty-four 50s later, I still love this game.
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I've taken the liberty to start a new thread about this where we shall discuss the event. Good luck to us all!
I believe that a Kheldian Gold Standard should be based on SO's, and for anything above that... there's Platinum!
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Ok, well *I* consider it a major frustration and I am quite content to assume that it is a bug, and I shall continue to do so.
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Originally Posted by LordXenite
I'm not contesting the definition of 'bug'. I am simply saying that until we have confirmation that the Dwarf-toggle interruptibility is in fact a bug, assuming that it is, seems rather premature and futile, at least to me. From here, the Devs can either tell us that it is in fact an unintended and unfortunate consequence of the Dwarf-toggle's interruptibility, admit it's a bug and fix it. Or, they can simply say it's not a bug but rather a feature. Either way, I wouldn't call this issue a major frustration. |
Wavicle, Energy/Energy Blaster, dinged 50 in Issue 4, summer of 2005.
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Ok, well *I* consider it a major frustration and I am quite content to assume that it is a bug, and I shall continue to do so.
/Gavel!
I believe that a Kheldian Gold Standard should be based on SO's, and for anything above that... there's Platinum!
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Fine, no Break-Free(s) for you then, One Year!!
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I have Break Frees...
If an Invuln toggle stopped working would you just tell them to carry more oranges?
Wavicle, Energy/Energy Blaster, dinged 50 in Issue 4, summer of 2005.
@Wavicle, mostly on the Justice server.
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Perfect, I suggest you use them then.
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...I have Break Frees...
That's definitely not the same thing, wrong analogy is just... wrong. Quote:
Originally Posted by Wavicle
...If an Invuln toggle stopped working would you just tell them to carry more oranges?
I believe that a Kheldian Gold Standard should be based on SO's, and for anything above that... there's Platinum!
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Yes, and this isn't a bug. I'm sorry, but when I can tank in a form that is a quote 'Blaster-like form' then the issue of being mezzed is THAT big a deal, then I will deal with it. If it is STILL an issue for you, carry purples or make a build from IO's that helps you not get mezzed. It is PART OF THE AT, not a bug. If someone elses stuff stopped working, then it MAY be a bug, but this is part of us. The fact that we can do it all makes up for this MINOR issue. Honestly, it isn't even that big of an issue, just minorly bad. Get over it, or play something else, either way, it doesn't matter because your not going to get yor way because it would brake either of the AT's (expessially WS as far as I can tell having been playing one. ) Sorry, but not everything gets changed, look at Grav, people have been asking for Dim Shift to get changed forever, it never will. Hell, does it brake a class, no, does it make the class unplayable, no, does it glitch the game, no. The fact that we have any Mezz protection at all is a BLESSING! So quit your whinning.
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That's ridiculous too. It's better than not having the function at all, but if it worked more smoothly it would be better. There's not a good reason I shouldn't point out that it's not working smoothly. And I don't know where you got this 'tank in a blasterlike form' from. No one I know tanks in Nova form, and no one I know considers the human form blasterlike. You have resistance and heals and +HP. Quite unblasterlike.
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Originally Posted by Duskwalker
Yes, and this isn't a bug. I'm sorry, but when I can tank in a form that is a quote 'Blaster-like form' then the issue of being mezzed is THAT big a deal, then I will deal with it. If it is STILL an issue for you, carry purples or make a build from IO's that helps you not get mezzed. It is PART OF THE AT, not a bug. If someone elses stuff stopped working, then it MAY be a bug, but this is part of us. The fact that we can do it all makes up for this MINOR issue. Honestly, it isn't even that big of an issue, just minorly bad. Get over it, or play something else, either way, it doesn't matter because your not going to get yor way because it would brake either of the AT's (expessially WS as far as I can tell having been playing one. ) Sorry, but not everything gets changed, look at Grav, people have been asking for Dim Shift to get changed forever, it never will. Hell, does it brake a class, no, does it make the class unplayable, no, does it glitch the game, no. The fact that we have any Mezz protection at all is a BLESSING! So quit your whinning.
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Wavicle, Energy/Energy Blaster, dinged 50 in Issue 4, summer of 2005.
@Wavicle, mostly on the Justice server.
Although the last few posts are confusing me a little I think we are still on the issue of Dwarf form not always working when getting mezzed.
The issue isn't that it won't work when mezzed, which is what we hve been promised. That would be a bug in the true sense.
The issue is that Dwarf has a ~2 second activation time, during which it is interruptable. And since the mez protection doesn't activate until the end of that time an incoming mez will interrupt your casting of the form. That is just the way the system works. It may be unintended, but it isn't actually a bug - it may even be intended.
The real thing you need to be asking for is for Dwarf to be marked as uninteruptble, then it would always activate - but it isn't the same thing as saying it is currently bugged.
The devs don't do everything the playerbase ask of them, but they are more likely to help us if we correctly identify the issue instead of just shouting and screaming.
Also regardless of the bug/no bug thing there has been a 'workaround' posted above with binds/macros and it is well worth using in the meantime, which is the advice I would hope any new people get rather than just telling them the power is broken.
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Originally Posted by PrincessDarkstar
Although the last few posts are confusing me a little I think we are still on the issue of Dwarf form not always working when getting mezzed.
The issue isn't that it won't work when mezzed, which is what we hve been promised. That would be a bug in the true sense. The issue is that Dwarf has a ~2 second activation time, during which it is interruptable. And since the mez protection doesn't activate until the end of that time an incoming mez will interrupt your casting of the form. That is just the way the system works. It may be unintended, but it isn't actually a bug - it may even be intended. The real thing you need to be asking for is for Dwarf to be marked as uninteruptble, then it would always activate - but it isn't the same thing as saying it is currently bugged. The devs don't do everything the playerbase ask of them, but they are more likely to help us if we correctly identify the issue instead of just shouting and screaming. Also regardless of the bug/no bug thing there has been a 'workaround' posted above with binds/macros and it is well worth using in the meantime, which is the advice I would hope any new people get rather than just telling them the power is broken. |
I still think it is a bug, because I believe that it is unintended behavior. If it's not WAI then it's a bug. If it's WAI then I'm wrong, but it still sucks.
Wavicle, Energy/Energy Blaster, dinged 50 in Issue 4, summer of 2005.
@Wavicle, mostly on the Justice server.
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Since internal knowledge of how powers are designed and implemented is not really publicly exposed and probably never will be, this question is not going to get you any closer to a resolution even if you did get an answer to it. I sort of suspect you know that already...
Originally Posted by Wavicle
It's not Interruptable in the enhanceable sense. Is there even a flag they can set of 'Uninterruptable'?
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I still think it is a bug, because I believe that it is unintended behavior. If it's not WAI then it's a bug. If it's WAI then I'm wrong, but it still sucks.
I believe that a Kheldian Gold Standard should be based on SO's, and for anything above that... there's Platinum!
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I will be a little more explainatory, sorry, I was tired and after reading this entire posting, was getting upset. I CAN tank in Nova form, as eclipse is that good. 85% resist to EVERYTHING is better than most tanks(as most are still vulnerable to psi damage). So yes, I am in nova form, blasting, with the defense of a tank, which is what I ment. As for the issue, does it suck, def. Will it get changed, more than likely not. Lets face it. WS is one of the most broken classes in PVE, and currently, PB is the FotM for PVP. So no matter what you like, khelds got it, in one form or the other. Honestly, we shouldn't be complaining for a posible fix to an issue that isn't real, we should be hoping we aren't the next ones to get hit with the nerf bat.
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That's ridiculous too. It's better than not having the function at all, but if it worked more smoothly it would be better. There's not a good reason I shouldn't point out that it's not working smoothly. And I don't know where you got this 'tank in a blasterlike form' from. No one I know tanks in Nova form, and no one I know considers the human form blasterlike. You have resistance and heals and +HP. Quite unblasterlike.
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If I am playing scrapper and my status toggle is off and I get mezzed while I'm activating it I'm hosed unless the activation COMPLETES before the mezz lands. If you wanna call this a bug ok, but its a bug that has always been around and it will not be fixed in my opinion.
If you PL'd to 50 just to get an "epic" thinking you'd be �ber, you're going to be sorely disappointed with the HEATs, because the VEATs were designed so that anyone with one good finger and a braincell can rock the toggles.
I think we'll have to make an actual event out of this and possibly run several groups alternating those ITF's. I propose we focus on the ITF first because that one I know should be very accomplishable.
May I suggest we name the event: "The Kheldian Day of Reckoning"; because on this day, we shall all punish Romulus Augustus for even contemplating siding with the Nictus!
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