Gratz! Gitch.
Thanks Space Goat. Im kinda supprised I only got one feedback on my experience.
GRATZ Gitch!
I always enjoy these glimpses 'behind the curtain' of other people's marketeering- thanks for the post.
2xp for me is usually a bunch of grand schemes that founder on the realities of how lazy I am & how little time I actually have to implement them.
Lately I just stock up on whatever cheap, good stuff I find lying around, stuff it in base storage and then hopefully have time to list it as the frenzy builds.
Nice to see what someone more organized can swing. =)
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Nothing wrong with being excited and sharing your sharing your experiences
Wow. You've accomplished alot in the game considering you started in Jan 2009. Just having learned how to amass 1 billion in that amount of time is surprising.
I wish I had that much time to play!
Good work and thanks for sharing.
Wow, nice.
I don't keep that much track of what I make, but I'm quite certain I didn't make 3.9 billion over the last week. However in the last 4-6 weeks I've managed to rack up 1.6 billion on my main character and anywhere from 200 mil to 500 mil on each of my other marketing toons... there's somewhere between 8 and 10 of them that I work with. I'm not quite as organized as you are either, but I'm making money. ^_^
my lil RWZ Challenge vid
Since this is now the Market and Inventions board, I'll make a tangental comment: I really don't understand Doctored Wounds' popularity. I personally don't feel that its set bonuses are all that great. Yeah, I see the 5% recharge, but eh. I prefer to use (on my characters) Mircles or Numina's Convalescence, and in a pinch, Harmonized Healing before I'd go with Doctored Wounds.
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Nice. It's amazing what someone with a plan and the will to execute it can do.
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Since this is now the Market and Inventions board, I'll make a tangental comment: I really don't understand Doctored Wounds' popularity. I personally don't feel that its set bonuses are all that great. Yeah, I see the 5% recharge, but eh. I prefer to use (on my characters) Mircles or Numina's Convalescence, and in a pinch, Harmonized Healing before I'd go with Doctored Wounds.
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I kind of agree with this, but I see DW sets being used in scrapper builds all the time. Maybe that's because I look at /regen builds a lot and most of them want as much recharge as possible, but the set still seems way more popular than is really warranted to me.
my lil RWZ Challenge vid
sold 5 pvp io's and made 4.3 billion top that and I got to play the game.
you had to plot and scheme to rip others off. i played the game and listed the stuff at the going rate. people that do this crap are the reason the game is in this state you cry that there is farming yet your the cause of the farming.
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Originally Posted by Epic_
sold 5 pvp io's and made 4.3 billion top that and I got to play the game.
you had to plot and scheme to rip others off. i played the game and listed the stuff at the going rate. people that do this crap are the reason the game is in this state you cry that there is farming yet your the cause of the farming. |
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sold 5 pvp io's and made 4.3 billion top that and I got to play the game.
you had to plot and scheme to rip others off. i played the game and listed the stuff at the going rate. people that do this crap are the reason the game is in this state you cry that there is farming yet your the cause of the farming. |
And I suppose you listed each of those IOs at 1 to help bring down the prices but were just so heartwrenched that they went for so much that you couldn't bring yourself to click the "Get Inf" button.
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people that do this crap are the reason the game is in this state you cry that there is farming yet your the cause of the farming.
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"if the market were religion Fulmens would be Moses and you'd be L. Ron Hubbard. " --Nethergoat to eryq2
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sold 5 pvp io's and made 4.3 billion top that and I got to play the game.
you had to plot and scheme to rip others off. i played the game and listed the stuff at the going rate. people that do this crap are the reason the game is in this state you cry that there is farming yet your the cause of the farming. |
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I hope you sold those PVP IOs at Vendor price. Otherwise you're just as guilty for "ripping people off".
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sold 5 pvp io's and made 4.3 billion top that and I got to play the game.
you had to plot and scheme to rip others off. i played the game and listed the stuff at the going rate. people that do this crap are the reason the game is in this state you cry that there is farming yet your the cause of the farming. |
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Notice the assumption that playing the market isn't playing the game.
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Didnt you know the devs implemented pvp and roleplaying options and farming options and AE because theyre not the right way to play too?
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I am not sure you really read my post completly at all. As a matter of fact I played the game all weekend and did not specifically farm (as this would sort of imply that I was merely trying to gain items or inf). I did use AE content to level up 4 of my toons from the low 40s to 50 because they had been languishing for a few years.|
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Now, you accuse me of being ebil and jacking up the prices but I am going to tell you that you are dead wrong. The prices of items is directly related to supply and demand as dictated in the simple rules of economics. 2xp has the direct impact on the game by providing double the income from playing the game while leaving the supply of items the same. Couple this with a mass increase in player population and you automatically create the perfect storm for inflation. It is not my fault that you failed to have the foresight to capitalize on what was destined to happen. Also if it had not been for me then the 40+ people who really wanted to buy the DW heal/rechg all weekend would have just been SOL because I was maybe the only one who had any in stock.
As to your 4 billion gain over the weekend on the pvp io's, all I have to say is Gratz to you on your gain.
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"HAY GUYZ WUTS ECONOMIC THEOIRY I DUNNO I JUST MAKE UP CONSPIRACY THEREEZ TO EXPLAIN STUFZ LOLOLOLOL"
If you honestly think we just magically sell stuff to each other to drive prices up, i challenge you to sell your next 5 pvp IOs for 1 influence each. see how many of them sell for anything close to that.
And its not like we care if you buy SOs, theyre perfectly great..but do you honestly think insulting the devs will win you sympathy?
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How much would you have gotten for them if you sold them to an NPC Vendor?
The difference between those two numbers is how much you marked them up.
You are complaining about a guy selling 500 volvos for the same price you sold 5 ferarri's. You still had a hefty markup on the PVPIO's "real" value. If you wanted people to "enjoy them" then you would have sold them for 1 influence.
It could also be argued that as the OP sold more enhancements than you, that he therefore helped out more people than you.
You're a hypocrite brah. *chest thump*
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The devs intended the market to be a form of PvP. And the OP didn't even spend all week-end just working the market. Sounds like he played exactly as the devs intended. It sounds like you just don't understand anything.| See what im saying is the OP tried to hard to make cash, if he would have played the game as intended, |
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"if the market were religion Fulmens would be Moses and you'd be L. Ron Hubbard. " --Nethergoat to eryq2
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Tried hard to make cash? Hmmm, I seem to recall you bragging about selling a handfull of PvP IOs for just a little more than the OP over 2XP weekend. I am quite sure that in order to reach this level of influence gain, you didn't just list those IOs (were they just the recipes or did you craft them first?) for 1 influence. I don't know all the numbers involved in generating PvP IOs, but I know they don't just rain from the sky either. One could easily make the argument that you worked just as hard to make some cash as the OP, you just took different routes to get there.|
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See what im saying is the OP tried to hard to make cash, if he would have played the game as intended,
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not farm (like he did during dbl xp) they he could have made cash and then some. But you ebil's as u like to call each other like to get rich jacking up prices and not playing as intended, (ie get a drop sell it so someone else can enjoy it) but dbl triple the price to justify your greed make you just as bad as people farming and exploiting.
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you will understand what i mean when there is no one left buying your warez(****).
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Make your cash while you can, the devs just havent figured a way to nerf the market yet.
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Im sure posi and that big mac eating fatso castle will figure out some way to grief your enjoyment. jack up the prices as much as you want, we can all go old school and buy SO's, hell the 80's are in again what cant we flashback to the good ol days.
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Tried hard to make cash? Hmmm, I seem to recall you bragging about selling a handfull of PvP IOs for just a little more than the OP over 2XP weekend. I am quite sure that in order to reach this level of influence gain, you didn't just list those IOs (were they just the recipes or did you craft them first?) for 1 influence. I don't know all the numbers involved in generating PvP IOs, but I know they don't just rain from the sky either. One could easily make the argument that you worked just as hard to make some cash as the OP, you just took different routes to get there.
Are you serious with this bit of rant, or are you just trolling? Again going back to your boast of selling a bunch of PvP IOs for almost 5 bil in inf, how is this not just as "exploitative" as what the OP did? You 'farmed' innocent PvPers just to generate some drops and then listed them at the 'going rates' and made some very good profits. Your own greed certainly didn't seem to get in the way of making as much as you could for your time spent 'playing the game'. I don't know what is inspiring this statement; but if nobody's buying the warez of the OP, who is going to be buying yours? What's good for the goose is good for the gander. I almost want to think you haven't been paying attention for the last several issues. Issue 13 was the first market nerf when pool c recipes no longer dropped from TF completion and boss kills. Issue 14 was another nerf on common and uncommon salvage. Then there was further nerfage when the ticket cap was implemented. Not to mention the nerfage of PvP IOs. All of these have resulted in a decrease in supply, which is what leads to an increase in price, not the greed of ebil marketeers. We are usually more than willing to help others learn how to make just as much influence as we do on these very boards. The asking price for this knowledge is simply that they be willing to make a little bit of effort to learn how to use the market and then sacrifice a little bit of play time on the market. It doesn't require nearly as much time 'not playing the game as intended' as you would make it sound. Yeah, insulting the devs is sure to gain you a lot of points. It's bad enough that you come on this forum with your little tirades, but you have to go a step lower and blame the very people who brought you this game for your woes. Pure childishness! |
My thoughts exactly. Its one thing to be hypocritical. its even dumber to both threaten that the devs will "save" him from us evil marketeers while simultaneously calling Castle and Positron names. I'm 100% certain that if he finishes it off by insulting Positot or Posimom that he'll definitely get the devs to fix his problems. *eyeroll*
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Guys can you stop killstealing me please. I'm trying to farm Epic_ for a Forum IO.
He hasn't even slotted for logic defense! I keep hitting him.
Hello all,
I have been reading this forum for several months but have never posted here. I love the advice you guys give and have tried it out in small scale and been mostly successful in making reliable money in the market. About 2-3 weeks ago it dawned on me that 2xp was coming up and that meant a huge opportunity to make alot of influence, so I decided I would give it a go full speed ahead.
Disclaimer: This post is in no way meant to brag, I am merely very excited with my results and want to share.
THE RAMP UP:
About a week prior to 2xp I started to amass an inventory by putting in as many bids as I could get my hands on. I had about 1 billion in starting cash spread out all over my toons and I invested it all except some cash left over for listing fee's and such. I managed to fill 2.5 bins worth of IO's and max out a few characters in recipies. Up to this point I had only ever invested in 1-2 niches at a time, but I knew that I would have to greatly diversify in order to keep supplies low and prices up during the sell phase. In other words I was affraid of buying too much of one thing and getting stuck holding stuff I couldn't sell. My basic strategy for what I invested in was by asking "what would I want to outfit my characters with?" and for the most part it went well.
Mistakes: Because I was really diversifing for the first time I didn't have a great grasp of many of the niches. This caused me to be over reliant on the last 5 listing which we all know can just be dead wrong. At the time that I chose to jump into LoTG def/end the listing was 10-18mil so I was excited about the 8mil spread and invested in 20 or so at 10mil only to watch the price drop to 5-8 mil 2 days later with 80 for sale. This did not turn around for a long time so I had to hold and pray for a market reversal which made me nervous the whole time.
Successes: One niche that I was fairly comfortable with was the DW heal and heal/rchg IO's. I bought about 30-40 of each for 1-2 mil which was the going rate at the time. I crafted half and held the other half as recipies.
DURING 2XP:
My main focus during the weekend was to finish 4 of my toons that were languishing in the low 40's and getting them to 50. In between AE runs ( I know, I am not proud but I had to do what I had to do)I would check in on some of my niches to see what direction they were going. If prices were going up I listed a few of my IO's for sale. I did this primarily from fear of having too much inventory and not being able to move it at the higher prices the weekend would demand.
Mistakes:I did not calculate on the increased supply generated in a few select niches that I had invested in. Some of the recipies that I was counting on to generate big profits suddenly were going for less than I had bought them for. Another case of heartburn for me.
Successes: Remember those DW IO's I stocked up on? Well they were at almost 0 for sale all weekend so I made a really nice return of about 10-15 mil a piece.
AFTERMATH: I got all 4 heroes to lvl 50 and added a few to 2 villains so I was very pleased with accomplishing that. I knew that I was not going to be able to log in and manage my inventory over the next few days due to real life commitments so I filled every slot I had with stuff for sale on sunday night and again on monday morning. I did not log in again until thursday am.
Mistakes: Because I had no time to manage the sales after the weekend, I was forced to pick a good sale price and hope I was right. In alot of cases I just noted the trend in the last 5 listing and placed mine slightly ahead of the trend. In a few cases this resulted in no sales and in others this resulted in sales with significantly less profit than was possible.
Successes: My goal when I started this project was to double my money. I have seen the screen shots of people who reached the inf cap and I thought that would be a good goal for me as well. Well, I didnt even come close in my estimate. This morning when I tallied up all my cash I was at 4.9 BILLION! Or 3.9 Billion in pure profit. Wow was I shocked when I saw that. In fact I was so damn excited that I just had to tell someone and, well now you know.
Thank you all for letting me share my experience,
Gitch