Soft Capping Super Strength/Shield?


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Right. Thanks to Double XP weekend I've decided I shall have two 'projects.' My old Inv/SS tank and a Super Strength/Shield brute (because the new KO Blow is going to look nasty with a shield).

So playing around in Mids after about an hour, I finally got the thing soft-capped, but the money it's going to cost is astronomically insane. Nearly every core power requires nearly a full IO set to do it. There has to be an easier way to do this.

So I was hoping I could get some people to post their most inexpensive soft-capped SS/Shield builds? It has to be moderately realistic too. Sure, being soft-capped is great, but if you're running so many toggles you barely have enough end left to attack...

Anyway, help would be appreciated.


Virtue:
Miserya - 50 EM/ELA Brute (Perma-shelved)
Adriana Rayne - 42 Katana/Dark Scrapper
Cyberpulse - 26 Super Strength/Willpower Brute
Steel Heart - 24 Invuln/Super Strength Tanker

 

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Almost any soft-capped build is going to require full IO sets because most of the significant positional defense bonuses come from that 6th slot. You can look at 3 slotting Aegis, Blessing of the Zephyr, and Eradication for some bonuses, but soft-capping shield isn't cheap... And the combo of shield/ss is pretty end-heavy, even with a complete IO build out.


 

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Copy and paste that into the latest mids build. You might have to edit your database to take account for phalanx fighting.

SS/SD is a fairly endurance heavy set. You're gonna need to account for that and be prepared. Getting the numina and miracle is WORTH it.


 

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2x 6/6 Touch of Death (Punch and Haymaker)
1x Steadfast Unique (Deflection [prefer OwtS if you take it])
1x 6/6 Mako's Bite (Knockout Blow)
1x 6/6 Obliteration (Shield Charge)
2x 3/3 Blessing of the Zephyr (travel power and Combat Jumping)
1x 3/6 Aegis (Tough)
1x 6/6 Red Fortune (Weave)
1x 6/6 Gaussian's (Rage)

Probably not ideal, but it works for me until I can get a PVP defense unique.


 

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Great, thanks guys. Is this a workable build without IOs? Because I don't have any cash readily available Redside so he's going to be using SOs for a good while.


Virtue:
Miserya - 50 EM/ELA Brute (Perma-shelved)
Adriana Rayne - 42 Katana/Dark Scrapper
Cyberpulse - 26 Super Strength/Willpower Brute
Steel Heart - 24 Invuln/Super Strength Tanker

 

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Originally Posted by Dr_Unholy View Post
Great, thanks guys. Is this a workable build without IOs? Because I don't have any cash readily available Redside so he's going to be using SOs for a good while.
I hated every minute I wasn't melee capped on big teams.

On the flip side, Shield Charge and Footstomp are mighty entertaining.


 

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This is the build I currently use for my SS/Shield. It is extremely effective, and can withstand defense debuffs. Just today, I joined a lowbie group that was doing a boss farm in AE (despicable I know, but I did meet some interesting people, and it wasn't at all a typical PUG), and actually managed to complete a large portion of the mission by myself. As in, they took one side, I took the other, and I ended up beating them to the end of the mission. The force feedback proc in Footstomp gives a huge bonus, much larger than I actually expected. I would recommend it to any SS Brute. It really makes it feel like it is a purpled/LotG'ed out build.

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[color:#32CD32]Level 2:[/color] [color:#1E90FF]Haymaker[/color] [color:#1E90FF]--[/color] [color:#FFE600]T'Death-[/color][color:#FFE600]Acc/Dmg/EndRdx[/color](A)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFE600]T'Death-[/color][color:#FFE600]Dmg/Rchg[/color](39)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFE600]T'Death-[/color][color:#FFE600]Dmg/EndRdx[/color](40)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFE600]T'Death-[/color][color:#FFE600]Dam%[/color](40)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFE600]T'Death-[/color][color:#FFE600]Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg[/color](40)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFE600]T'Death-[/color][color:#FFE600]Acc/Dmg[/color](43)
[color:#32CD32]Level 4:[/color] [color:#1E90FF]Battle Agility[/color] [color:#1E90FF]--[/color] [color:#FFE600]RedFtn-[/color][color:#FFE600]EndRdx/Rchg[/color](A)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFE600]RedFtn-[/color][color:#FFE600]Def[/color](5)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFE600]RedFtn-[/color][color:#FFE600]Def/EndRdx[/color](7)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFE600]RedFtn-[/color][color:#FFE600]EndRdx[/color](7)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFE600]RedFtn-[/color][color:#FFE600]Def/Rchg[/color](9)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFE600]RedFtn-[/color][color:#FFE600]Def/EndRdx/Rchg[/color](9)
[color:#32CD32]Level 6:[/color] [color:#1E90FF]True Grit[/color] [color:#1E90FF]--[/color] [color:#FFE600]RgnTis-[/color][color:#FFE600]Regen+[/color](A)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFC000]Heal[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](46)
[color:#32CD32]Level 8:[/color] [color:#1E90FF]Knockout Blow[/color] [color:#1E90FF]--[/color] [color:#FFE600]Mako-[/color][color:#FFE600]Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg[/color](A)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFE600]Mako-[/color][color:#FFE600]Acc/Dmg[/color](13)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFE600]Mako-[/color][color:#FFE600]Dmg/EndRdx[/color](13)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFE600]Mako-[/color][color:#FFE600]Dam%[/color](17)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFE600]Mako-[/color][color:#FFE600]Dmg/Rchg[/color](19)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFE600]Mako-[/color][color:#FFE600]Acc/EndRdx/Rchg[/color](19)
[color:#32CD32]Level 10:[/color] [color:#1E90FF]Active Defense[/color] [color:#1E90FF]--[/color] [color:#FFC34B]HO:Membr[/color](A)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFC34B]HO:Membr[/color](39)
[color:#32CD32]Level 12:[/color] [color:#1E90FF]Boxing[/color] [color:#1E90FF]--[/color] [color:#FFE600]RzDz-[/color][color:#FFE600]EndRdx/Stun[/color](A)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFE600]RzDz-[/color][color:#FFE600]Acc/Rchg[/color](15)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFE600]RzDz-[/color][color:#FFE600]Acc/EndRdx[/color](17)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFE600]RzDz-[/color][color:#FFE600]Stun/Rng[/color](43)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFE600]RzDz-[/color][color:#FFE600]Acc/Stun/Rchg[/color](43)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFE600]RzDz-[/color][color:#FFE600]Immob%[/color](45)
[color:#32CD32]Level 14:[/color] [color:#1E90FF]Tough[/color] [color:#1E90FF]--[/color] [color:#FFE600]Aegis-[/color][color:#FFE600]ResDam[/color](A)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFE600]Aegis-[/color][color:#FFE600]ResDam/EndRdx[/color](15)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFE600]Aegis-[/color][color:#FFE600]ResDam/Rchg[/color](31)
[color:#32CD32]Level 16:[/color] [color:#1E90FF]Against All Odds[/color] [color:#1E90FF]--[/color] [color:#FFC000]EndRdx[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](A)
[color:#32CD32]Level 18:[/color] [color:#1E90FF]Rage[/color] [color:#1E90FF]--[/color] [color:#FFE600]GSFC-[/color][color:#FFE600]Build%[/color](A)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFE600]GSFC-[/color][color:#FFE600]Rchg/EndRdx[/color](25)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFE600]GSFC-[/color][color:#FFE600]ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx[/color](27)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFE600]GSFC-[/color][color:#FFE600]ToHit/Rchg[/color](29)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFE600]GSFC-[/color][color:#FFE600]ToHit/EndRdx[/color](34)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFE600]GSFC-[/color][color:#FFE600]ToHit[/color](37)
[color:#32CD32]Level 20:[/color] [color:#1E90FF]Weave[/color] [color:#1E90FF]--[/color] [color:#FFE600]RedFtn-[/color][color:#FFE600]EndRdx/Rchg[/color](A)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFE600]RedFtn-[/color][color:#FFE600]Def[/color](21)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFE600]RedFtn-[/color][color:#FFE600]Def/EndRdx[/color](21)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFE600]RedFtn-[/color][color:#FFE600]EndRdx[/color](23)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFE600]RedFtn-[/color][color:#FFE600]Def/Rchg[/color](23)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFE600]RedFtn-[/color][color:#FFE600]Def/EndRdx/Rchg[/color](25)
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[color:#32CD32]Level 24:[/color] [color:#1E90FF]Hurdle[/color] [color:#1E90FF]--[/color] [color:#FFC000]Jump[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](A)
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[color:#32CD32]Level 28:[/color] [color:#1E90FF]Stamina[/color] [color:#1E90FF]--[/color] [color:#FFC000]EndMod[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](A)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFC000]EndMod[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](29)
[color:#32CD32]Level 30:[/color] [color:#1E90FF]Combat Jumping[/color] [color:#1E90FF]--[/color] [color:#FFE600]Zephyr-[/color][color:#FFE600]Travel[/color](A)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFE600]Zephyr-[/color][color:#FFE600]Travel/EndRdx[/color](31)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFE600]Zephyr-[/color][color:#FFE600]ResKB[/color](42)
[color:#32CD32]Level 32:[/color] [color:#1E90FF]Foot Stomp[/color] [color:#1E90FF]--[/color] [color:#FFE600]Sciroc-[/color][color:#FFE600]Acc/Dmg[/color](A)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFE600]Sciroc-[/color][color:#FFE600]Dmg/EndRdx[/color](33)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFE600]Sciroc-[/color][color:#FFE600]Dmg/Rchg[/color](33)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFE600]Sciroc-[/color][color:#FFE600]Acc/Rchg[/color](33)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFE600]Sciroc-[/color][color:#FFE600]Acc/Dmg/EndRdx[/color](34)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFE600]FrcFbk-[/color][color:#FFE600]Rechg%[/color](34)
[color:#32CD32]Level 35:[/color] [color:#1E90FF]Shield Charge[/color] [color:#1E90FF]--[/color] [color:#FFE600]Oblit-[/color][color:#FFE600]Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg[/color](A)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFE600]Oblit-[/color][color:#FFE600]%Dam[/color](36)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFE600]Oblit-[/color][color:#FFE600]Dmg[/color](36)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFE600]Oblit-[/color][color:#FFE600]Acc/Rchg[/color](36)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFE600]Oblit-[/color][color:#FFE600]Dmg/Rchg[/color](37)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFE600]Oblit-[/color][color:#FFE600]Acc/Dmg/Rchg[/color](37)
[color:#32CD32]Level 38:[/color] [color:#1E90FF]Hasten[/color] [color:#1E90FF]--[/color] [color:#FFC000]RechRdx[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](A)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFC000]RechRdx[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](42)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFC000]RechRdx[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](48)
[color:#32CD32]Level 41:[/color] [color:#1E90FF]One with the Shield[/color] [color:#1E90FF]--[/color] [color:#FFE600]Numna-[/color][color:#FFE600]Heal[/color](A)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFE600]Numna-[/color][color:#FFE600]Heal/EndRdx[/color](42)
[color:#32CD32]Level 44:[/color] [color:#1E90FF]Electrifying Fences[/color] [color:#1E90FF]--[/color] [color:#FFE600]Enf'dOp-[/color][color:#FFE600]Acc/EndRdx[/color](A)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFE600]Enf'dOp-[/color][color:#FFE600]EndRdx/Immob[/color](45)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFE600]Enf'dOp-[/color][color:#FFE600]Immob/Rng[/color](45)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFE600]Enf'dOp-[/color][color:#FFE600]Acc/Immob/Rchg[/color](46)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFE600]Enf'dOp-[/color][color:#FFE600]Acc/Immob[/color](46)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFE600]Enf'dOp-[/color][color:#FFE600]Acc/Rchg[/color](48)
[color:#32CD32]Level 47:[/color] [color:#1E90FF]Ball Lightning[/color] [color:#1E90FF]--[/color] [color:#FFE600]Posi-[/color][color:#FFE600]Dmg/Rchg[/color](A)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFE600]Posi-[/color][color:#FFE600]Dmg/Rng[/color](48)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFE600]Posi-[/color][color:#FFE600]Dam%[/color](50)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFE600]Posi-[/color][color:#FFE600]Dmg/EndRdx[/color](50)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFE600]Posi-[/color][color:#FFE600]Acc/Dmg[/color](50)
[color:#32CD32]Level 49:[/color] [color:#1E90FF]Grant Cover[/color] [color:#1E90FF]--[/color] [color:#FFC000]DefBuff[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](A)
[color:#1E90FF]------------[/color]
[color:#32CD32]Level 1:[/color] [color:#1E90FF]Brawl[/color] [color:#1E90FF]--[/color] [color:#FFD700]Empty[/color](A)
[color:#32CD32]Level 1:[/color] [color:#1E90FF]Sprint[/color] [color:#1E90FF]--[/color] [color:#FFD700]Empty[/color](A)
[color:#32CD32]Level 2:[/color] [color:#1E90FF]Rest[/color] [color:#1E90FF]--[/color] [color:#FFD700]Empty[/color](A)
[color:#32CD32]Level 1:[/color] [color:#1E90FF]Fury[/color]



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TW/Elec Optimization

 

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Originally Posted by Combat View Post
The force feedback proc in Footstomp gives a huge bonus, much larger than I actually expected. I would recommend it to any SS Brute.
I just wanted to second this. I know the OP said he's cash-poor, but the FF IO isn't expensive and incredibly worth it. It's mandatory in Foot Stomp. Don't try to slot it in Shield Charge, however, the proc will never fire in that power due to the way it's implemented.


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I was playing in mids and came up with this.

Question - How often do people really use One With the Shield with capped defenses and a fixed 6 min recharge?

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Great, thanks guys. Is this a workable build without IOs? Because I don't have any cash readily available Redside so he's going to be using SOs for a good while.
Leveling up, I suggest carrying around a few lucks. Once you hit SO range and have adequately slotted your secondary, you should be able to hit 45% defense with a single luck on top of your toggles. Good lucks often are for sale on the markets, and you can place reasonable bids on them as well overnight and keep yourself stocked.

You will find it much more enjoyable. Now, your endurance is still going to scream at you from the likely rage and hasten crashes, but well, I suppose you could carry a few blues too.


 

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Any benefit to trying to work in Aid Self on a capped defense build? I know my self heal comes in handy on mu SS/FA brute.

Here's a SS/SD brute with capped defenses and aid self. Powers are in no particular order. I was just seeing if it was possible.

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Question - How often do people really use One With the Shield with capped defenses and a fixed 6 min recharge?
I regularly team with a few SS/Shield Brutes on the ITF and none of us bothered to take One With the Shield. It's not useless but once you have capped defenses, usually judicious insp management can take its place.

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Any benefit to trying to work in Aid Self on a capped defense build? I know my self heal comes in handy on mu SS/FA brute.
Sure, Aid Self is always handy for powersets with no heal. It's especially good on a high defense character because you're more likely to be able to fire it off. Again though, I had no room for it in my build.


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