Where do the devs think pvp should go ??
By
Charnell,
Posted on: 2009-04-29 10:42 in Everything about PvP
ma pokemonz think otherwise
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Elec/Therm > All
Don't confuse it guys, seriously, that ^
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Isn't Elec/Kin Corrupters the craze now?
Fury
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therm > kin
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Okies, I assumed along those lines. I just saw about 6 Elec/Kin recognisable PvP people at BM roughly fully slotted and thought.. odd :P
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Isn't Elec/Kin Corrupters the craze now?
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therm > kin
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Okies, I assumed along those lines. I just saw about 6 Elec/Kin recognisable PvP people at BM roughly fully slotted and thought.. odd :P
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Kin is dead in PvP. Therm beats it every which way.
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recognisable PvP people
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I lold
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Elec/Therm > All
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I have a pvp toon?
He will honor his words; he will definitely carry out his actions. What he promises he will fulfill. He does not care about his bodily self, putting his life and death aside to come forward for another's troubled besiegement. He does not boast about his ability, or shamelessly extol his own virtues. - Sima Qian.
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Elec/Therm > All
Don't confuse it guys, seriously, that ^
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I have a pvp toon?
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Do you have an Elec/Therm? If so, yes I would say you have the most viable dueling toon on the game. 
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Elec/Therm > All
Don't confuse it guys, seriously, that ^
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I have a pvp toon?
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Do you have an Elec/Therm? If so, yes I would say you have the most viable dueling toon on the game.
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Knowing how to use it is a whole other story.
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Elec/Therm > All
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I have a pvp toon?
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Do you have an Elec/Therm? If so, yes I would say you have the most viable dueling toon on the game.
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I chose Elec/ cos its red. This has been my problem with pvp that some chars are more viable than others. In PvE it looks that way but only because of the laws we set ourselves but then there is always the pace factor in PvE which can't be helped.
If I were to PvP how would I make one? I'll try when I get a mo and I'll post it to see if you would laugh at it 
Edit: No. I will PM it to Globey and see what he thinks cos he is one of the few PvPers on this forum that I think matter.
He will honor his words; he will definitely carry out his actions. What he promises he will fulfill. He does not care about his bodily self, putting his life and death aside to come forward for another's troubled besiegement. He does not boast about his ability, or shamelessly extol his own virtues. - Sima Qian.
The mistake i made when i first started dueling with my Elec / Therm was concentrating to much on the endurance drain side, actively using Short Circuit when it was up, now dont get me wrong use it as often as possible, but definately keep the damage pressure up with the two blasts and forging the corlax as it has some nice psy damage. As this makes it double as hard for the opponent to concentrate on two bars, and once you start scouraging they are going down.
I used mine in i13 before the No DR option as with DR off its a joke (Its that good) i swiftly stripped mine for a domi. Some of the best 2 vs 2's i had were with me and Globey with him on SS / SR and me on Elec / Therm beating Blast / Emp combos
Here is the build i used for Duels on freedom: -
Villain Plan by Mids' Villain Designer 1.401
http://www.cohplanner.com/
[u]Click this DataLink to open the build![u]
Level 50 Magic Corruptor
Primary Power Set: Electrical Blast
Secondary Power Set: Thermal Radiation
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Leviathan Mastery
Villain Profile:
Level 1: Charged Bolts -- Dev'n-Acc/Dmg(A), Dev'n-Dmg/Rchg(3), Dev'n-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(3), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(5), Thundr-Dmg/Rchg(5)
Level 1: Warmth -- Mrcl-Heal(A), Mrcl-Heal/Rchg(7), Mrcl-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(9), Numna-Heal(9), Numna-Heal/Rchg(11), Numna-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(11)
Level 2: Lightning Bolt -- Apoc-Dmg(A), Apoc-Dmg/Rchg(13), Apoc-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(13), Apoc-Acc/Rchg(15), Apoc-Dam%(15)
Level 4: Ball Lightning -- Ragnrk-Dmg(A), Ragnrk-Dmg/Rchg(7), Ragnrk-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(17), Ragnrk-Acc/Rchg(17), Ragnrk-Dmg/EndRdx(19)
Level 6: Short Circuit -- Efficacy-EndMod(A), Efficacy-EndMod/Rchg(21), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(21), Efficacy-Acc/Rchg(23), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc(23), Efficacy-EndMod/EndRdx(25)
Level 8: Aim -- AdjTgt-ToHit(A), AdjTgt-Rchg(25), AdjTgt-ToHit/Rchg(27), AdjTgt-ToHit/EndRdx/Rchg(27), AdjTgt-EndRdx/Rchg(29)
Level 10: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), Krma-ResKB(29), Ksmt-ToHit+(31)
Level 12: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 14: Super Jump -- Jump-I(A)
Level 16: Health -- Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(A), Mrcl-Rcvry+(31)
Level 18: Tesla Cage -- UbrkCons-Hold(A), UbrkCons-Hold/Rchg(19), UbrkCons-Acc/Hold/Rchg(31), UbrkCons-Acc/Rchg(33), UbrkCons-EndRdx/Hold(33)
Level 20: Stamina -- P'Shift-End%(A), P'Shift-EndMod(34), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(34), Efficacy-EndMod(34), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc(36)
Level 22: Acrobatics -- KBDist-I(A)
Level 24: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(36), RechRdx-I(36)
Level 26: Super Speed -- Clrty-EndRdx(A), Clrty-Stlth(37), Clrty-RunSpd(37)
Level 28: Voltaic Sentinel -- S'bndAl-Dmg(A), S'bndAl-Dmg/EndRdx(39), S'bndAl-Acc/Rchg(39), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(39), P'Shift-EndMod(40), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(40)
Level 30: Maneuvers -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), Krma-ResKB(40)
Level 32: Tactics -- AdjTgt-ToHit(A), AdjTgt-ToHit/Rchg(33), AdjTgt-ToHit/EndRdx/Rchg(42), AdjTgt-EndRdx/Rchg(42), AdjTgt-ToHit/EndRdx(43)
Level 35: Heat Exhaustion -- Acc-I(A), Acc-I(37), RechRdx-I(43), RechRdx-I(45), RechRdx-I(45)
Level 38: Melt Armor -- LdyGrey-DefDeb(A), LdyGrey-DefDeb/Rchg(42), AnWeak-Acc/DefDeb(43), ShldBrk-Acc/DefDeb(46), ShldBrk-Acc/Rchg(48), Achilles-ResDeb%(50)
Level 41: Shark Skin -- TtmC'tng-ResDam(A), TtmC'tng-ResDam/EndRdx(46), TtmC'tng-ResDam/Rchg(46)
Level 44: Hibernate -- Mrcl-Heal(A), Mrcl-Heal/Rchg(45), Mrcl-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(48)
Level 47: Summon Coralax -- S'bndAl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(A), S'bndAl-Dmg/Rchg(48), S'bndAl-Build%(50), SvgnRt-Acc/Dmg(50)
Level 49: Forge -- RechRdx-I(A)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Scourge
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[u]Set Bonus Totals:[u]<ul type="square">[*]10.5% DamageBuff(Smashing)[*]10.5% DamageBuff(Lethal)[*]10.5% DamageBuff(Fire)[*]10.5% DamageBuff(Cold)[*]10.5% DamageBuff(Energy)[*]10.5% DamageBuff(Negative)[*]10.5% DamageBuff(Toxic)[*]10.5% DamageBuff(Psionic)[*]60% Enhancement(RechargeTime)[*]48% Enhancement(Accuracy)[*]10% FlySpeed[*]293.2 HP (27.4%) HitPoints[*]10% JumpHeight[*]10% JumpSpeed[*]Knockback (Mag -8)[*]Knockup (Mag -8)[*]MezResist(Immobilize) 2.2%[*]MezResist(Sleep) 2.2%[*]19% (0.32 End/sec) Recovery[*]82% (3.67 HP/sec) Regeneration[*]5.04% Resistance(Fire)[*]5.04% Resistance(Cold)[*]2.52% Resistance(Energy)[*]2.52% Resistance(Negative)[*]10% RunSpeed[/list]
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Good luck.
Doh you showed me a build just as I was in the middle of doing one I will post what I had so far to you and Globey right now! You can tell its no copy and I was just getting into it. Oh and TY for input.
He will honor his words; he will definitely carry out his actions. What he promises he will fulfill. He does not care about his bodily self, putting his life and death aside to come forward for another's troubled besiegement. He does not boast about his ability, or shamelessly extol his own virtues. - Sima Qian.
One thing you can note in that build I posted is that I was at a point where I decided on what to have for "Duels" then decided on bonuses that were for dueling anyone but with certain insps on me but I had yet to look at alternative globals and the attack chain. Somethings may have more rechg than I needed.
In terms of playing I was going to be one who could give good chase, lower def immediately, drain end and slap on the holds, then lay in the damage constantly keeping endurance down and holding before more damage so upto now was very much in the assault state of mind.
It is v different to Spags and I started it 10 mins before I posted Spag and Globe it.
I think with Fire blast its not going to be as quick (easy to set up time) to get good a set of attacks in but I may look into that an all cos I have one of them as well.
I do think new PvP zones should be had which are also ones where IO sets work without DR.
He will honor his words; he will definitely carry out his actions. What he promises he will fulfill. He does not care about his bodily self, putting his life and death aside to come forward for another's troubled besiegement. He does not boast about his ability, or shamelessly extol his own virtues. - Sima Qian.
Right I got 3 builds to compare now so can look at common key areas and advantages and disadvantages where there is a different idea on slotting in my own time.
He will honor his words; he will definitely carry out his actions. What he promises he will fulfill. He does not care about his bodily self, putting his life and death aside to come forward for another's troubled besiegement. He does not boast about his ability, or shamelessly extol his own virtues. - Sima Qian.
Do the build spag posted and you cant go much wrong really, atleast for the power choices. If you can afford it get the same IO´s to, i played his elec/therm and it was so good it felt harsh against the 1 i was facing.
I just found PVP Mode on the Hero builder! 
Nope I kid. It helped to switch over to get an idea of end drain I could of been expecting from my own now that I am looking at the effect chain. It switches me onto Coralax epic more.
I got questions from looking at the builds. How much KB prot is needed cos to me it looks ott. Looking back on my quickie it lacked +HP and +Regen although with the heal I wasn't too sure.
I am currently mixing builds atm getting a mix of Globeys and Spags with what I got right anyway
Edit: Right done and PMed with further twists, now all I'd need to do is farm the bleep out of the game. They should just have people buy enhancement sets.
He will honor his words; he will definitely carry out his actions. What he promises he will fulfill. He does not care about his bodily self, putting his life and death aside to come forward for another's troubled besiegement. He does not boast about his ability, or shamelessly extol his own virtues. - Sima Qian.
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I'll look again to see if kb protection is needed to be high for somit.
He will honor his words; he will definitely carry out his actions. What he promises he will fulfill. He does not care about his bodily self, putting his life and death aside to come forward for another's troubled besiegement. He does not boast about his ability, or shamelessly extol his own virtues. - Sima Qian.
Force bubble can dish out KB of about 16-18 i think.
@Sweet Chilli
I was looking at 22-23 in the builds so thought well I might be able to lose some kb resistance so went less on KB IOs for other things. With the Force Bubbler with Force bolt I'd of thought "likely?". In getting passed that properly though you are put at 22-23.
He will honor his words; he will definitely carry out his actions. What he promises he will fulfill. He does not care about his bodily self, putting his life and death aside to come forward for another's troubled besiegement. He does not boast about his ability, or shamelessly extol his own virtues. - Sima Qian.
Mids doesn't show the effects of DR though Shannon. Take acrobatics for example. Gives mag 9 protection but in PvP zones it only gives something like 2.9 mag (not 100% sure on the actual figure but it's close to that)
I know blessing of the zephyr KB protection is only worth 2.1 in PvP not 4.0.
CoH PvP SG = SuperUnion - Co-Leader - Union/Freedom
CoV PvP VG = Disruption - Co-Leader - Union/Freedom
Global = @Rent & @Rent.
Playgroup are all **** - Global Handle
Yeah but you go to arena for duels. I thought you could set your own settings there.
He will honor his words; he will definitely carry out his actions. What he promises he will fulfill. He does not care about his bodily self, putting his life and death aside to come forward for another's troubled besiegement. He does not boast about his ability, or shamelessly extol his own virtues. - Sima Qian.
You can, but if you turn DR off all combatants will have capped resistance to all basically making it a rather dull fight.
CoH PvP SG = SuperUnion - Co-Leader - Union/Freedom
CoV PvP VG = Disruption - Co-Leader - Union/Freedom
Global = @Rent & @Rent.
Playgroup are all **** - Global Handle
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You are a nab.