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Posted on: 2008-12-19 09:55 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
Not to disagree with your general points RW:
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Any name like that which is older than 90 days is freed up by automated scripts and can be reused. You'd know that if you read announcements more often.
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Is that automatic now? I thought they ran that script manually...once? 
Also, since old accounts are regualarly reactivated when new issues hit, wouldn't that screw things up?
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Not to disagree with your general points RW:
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Any name like that which is older than 90 days is freed up by automated scripts and can be reused. You'd know that if you read announcements more often.
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Is that automatic now? I thought they ran that script manually...once?
Also, since old accounts are regualarly reactivated when new issues hit, wouldn't that screw things up?
[/ QUOTE ]yes last time i hear it was auto if you account beeen offline for 90 days
If memory serves, it's a script that they have to run, Sugar Rush, and it frees up character names on all toons of 6th level or lower from accounts that have not been active in the last 90 days. The names still exist on the toons, but they are no longer "reserved" against use, and a free rename is granted if a returning player tries to load up that character.
Edit: Oh, and they've run it twice that I know of.
The wisdom of Shadowe: Ghostraptor: The Shadowe is wise ...; FFM: Shadowe is no longer wise.
; Techbot_Alpha: Also, what Shadowe said. It seems he is still somewhat wise 
; Bull Throttle: Shadowe was unwise in this instance...; Rock_Powerfist: in this instance Shadowe is wise.; Techbot_Alpha: Shadowe is very wise *nods*; Zortel: *Quotable line about Shadowe being wise goes here.*
*shrug* I dunno. His point isn't valid anyway. Most of the names he's talking about are actually locked up in currently used accounts, or in high level characters.
I have one character who I rarely play, Glory, she's level 14. Every time I log her in, someone asks how I managed to get that name. Well, her Defiant version was created on the first day of EU release, and her Union version was created on the Monday after, when I realised RP was supposed to be happening on Union.
Now, I don't play her much, and I can't exactly lose the name due to a basic server merge, but our OP isn't really talking about a merge, he's talking about free migrations to a third server, with the old ones shutting down after. That's even worse, since there's actually nothing stopping someone creating a new character there and taking someone's name that way.
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That's why the best method would be to open up a NEW third server and open active transfers from both server to this new one.
Then the active players have an equal chance to tranfer their chars to this NEW server and keep their names.
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Unacceptable. If I lose ANY of my character names, even if someone else had that name longer than me, I WILL leave. Many others feel exactly the same way. Your solution is not the best one by a LONG way.
The only acceptable solution is to permit more than one character of the same name, and I don't want any prefixes or suffixes or dots or underscores or anything else, either. My character name, exactly as it is now, or I find another game to play.
But I'm not worried, because as has been said, the official stance is that a server merge is NOT planned.
@FloatingFatMan
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
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Not to disagree with your general points RW:
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Any name like that which is older than 90 days is freed up by automated scripts and can be reused. You'd know that if you read announcements more often.
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Is that automatic now? I thought they ran that script manually...once?
Also, since old accounts are regualarly reactivated when new issues hit, wouldn't that screw things up?
[/ QUOTE ]yes last time i hear it was auto if you account beeen offline for 90 days
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It doesn't.
Me and my gf have been away for about 6 months and recently started playing again with the announcement of i13 and i14.
All our characters were still intact and there.
So it might be that if there is an automated 90day script running it will be for trial accounts only. Wich would make actual sense.
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Not to disagree with your general points RW:
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Any name like that which is older than 90 days is freed up by automated scripts and can be reused. You'd know that if you read announcements more often.
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Is that automatic now? I thought they ran that script manually...once?
Also, since old accounts are regualarly reactivated when new issues hit, wouldn't that screw things up?
[/ QUOTE ]yes last time i hear it was auto if you account beeen offline for 90 days
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It doesn't.
Me and my gf have been away for about 6 months and recently started playing again with the announcement of i13 and i14.
All our characters were still intact and there.
So it might be that if there is an automated 90day script running it will be for trial accounts only. Wich would make actual sense.
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This has been argued about every week for the last six months. You pretty obviously are not a member of the forum community, or you would know that.
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Then doesn't that suggest that the issue needs to be looked at in detail?
If players are leaving the game to come here and post then it suggested to me they've noticed something.
It's about time this was looked at.
And if someone new comes in here and suggests it - lets not insult them.
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Not to disagree with your general points RW:
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Any name like that which is older than 90 days is freed up by automated scripts and can be reused. You'd know that if you read announcements more often.
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Is that automatic now? I thought they ran that script manually...once?
Also, since old accounts are regualarly reactivated when new issues hit, wouldn't that screw things up?
[/ QUOTE ]yes last time i hear it was auto if you account beeen offline for 90 days
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It doesn't.
Me and my gf have been away for about 6 months and recently started playing again with the announcement of i13 and i14.
All our characters were still intact and there.
So it might be that if there is an automated 90day script running it will be for trial accounts only. Wich would make actual sense.
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Yes both me and my gf have together several toons of around level3-5ish especially on Union (when we last time tried to see if that server was more active).
Even those are still there.
Imho. I have yet to see a Dev risking in deleting characters on Retail accounts.
So I am pretty sure this purging script is for Trial accounts only.
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This has been argued about every week for the last six months. You pretty obviously are not a member of the forum community, or you would know that.
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Then doesn't that suggest that the issue needs to be looked at in detail?
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Please read thread before posting, not just first two or three posts.
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And if someone new comes in here and suggests it - lets not insult them.
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If they come here, don't bother looking at the forums and just post an idea which has been gone over so many times it got boring 6 months ago... and ignore the official statement saying their idea is not going to happen and post in the wrong forum anayway (this is a Suggestion), then telling them this seems fair.
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Imho. I have yet to see a Dev risking in deleting characters on Retail accounts.
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First, it deletes nothing.
Second: Your entire idea hinges on the devs deciding to do exactly that with potentially half the player accounts on two servers.
Do you not see the FAIL written all over that?
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So I am pretty sure this purging script is for Trial accounts only.
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And you're wrong, it wasn't. There were no Trial accounts when this was implemented.
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It's about time this was looked at.
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They've looked at it, and they've made an official posting about it. Game population IS clearly more than good enough to sustain the servers, or the servers WOULD be merged. NC have shown they're more than willing to cut losses (Auto Assault and Tabula Rasa are good examples), and they even closed down the Korean CoH due to poor number; so the simple fact that they have stated there are no plans to merge should tell you that there is no NEED to merge.
@FloatingFatMan
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
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That's why the best method would be to open up a NEW third server and open active transfers from both server to this new one.
Then the active players have an equal chance to tranfer their chars to this NEW server and keep their names.
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Unacceptable. If I lose ANY of my character names, even if someone else had that name longer than me, I WILL leave. Many others feel exactly the same way. Your solution is not the best one by a LONG way.
The only acceptable solution is to permit more than one character of the same name, and I don't want any prefixes or suffixes or dots or underscores or anything else, either. My character name, exactly as it is now, or I find another game to play.
But I'm not worried, because as has been said, the official stance is that a server merge is NOT planned.
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Well - there's a reaons right there do the merge.
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Yes both me and my gf have together several toons of around level3-5ish especially on Union (when we last time tried to see if that server was more active).
Even those are still there.
Imho. I have yet to see a Dev risking in deleting characters on Retail accounts.
So I am pretty sure this purging script is for Trial accounts only.
[/ QUOTE ]they don't delete toon... if someone wanted that name you would of got the name like generichero9999, so you was lucky i guess as no one wanted them names
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That's why the best method would be to open up a NEW third server and open active transfers from both server to this new one.
Then the active players have an equal chance to tranfer their chars to this NEW server and keep their names.
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Unacceptable. If I lose ANY of my character names, even if someone else had that name longer than me, I WILL leave. Many others feel exactly the same way. Your solution is not the best one by a LONG way.
The only acceptable solution is to permit more than one character of the same name, and I don't want any prefixes or suffixes or dots or underscores or anything else, either. My character name, exactly as it is now, or I find another game to play.
But I'm not worried, because as has been said, the official stance is that a server merge is NOT planned.
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Well - there's a reaons right there do the merge.
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And if someone new comes in here and suggests it - lets not insult them.
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It's not okay to insult the OP, but insulting FFM is fair?
Well you may have a point, but I still call that hypocracy.
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Posts are OOC unless noted to be IC, or in an IC thread.
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Well - there's a reaons right there do the merge.
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*Pushes Jade off the new ski run*
@FloatingFatMan
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
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It's about time this was looked at.
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They've looked at it, and they've made an official posting about it. Game population IS clearly more than good enough to sustain the servers, or the servers WOULD be merged. NC have shown they're more than willing to cut losses (Auto Assault and Tabula Rasa are good examples), and they even closed down the Korean CoH due to poor number; so the simple fact that they have stated there are no plans to merge should tell you that there is no NEED to merge.
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and yet everyweek someone new comes in here and asks the question.
No one new ever comes in here saying "lets keep the servers" it the same people who want to keep them that keep chanting "there is no server population problem". And its these same people who will end up being the death of the game.
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It's about time this was looked at.
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They've looked at it, and they've made an official posting about it. Game population IS clearly more than good enough to sustain the servers, or the servers WOULD be merged. NC have shown they're more than willing to cut losses (Auto Assault and Tabula Rasa are good examples), and they even closed down the Korean CoH due to poor number; so the simple fact that they have stated there are no plans to merge should tell you that there is no NEED to merge.
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and yet everyweek someone new comes in here and asks the question.
No one new ever comes in here saying "lets keep the servers" it the same people who want to keep them that keep chanting "there is no server population problem". And its these same people who will end up being the death of the game.
[/ QUOTE ]i think the true reason people want a server merge is not that it low populations but people are very picky about joining PUG as they only want to join SG/friends/global teams
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This has been argued about every week for the last six months. You pretty obviously are not a member of the forum community, or you would know that.
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Then doesn't that suggest that the issue needs to be looked at in detail?
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Please read thread before posting, not just first two or three posts.
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And if someone new comes in here and suggests it - lets not insult them.
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If they come here, don't bother looking at the forums and just post an idea which has been gone over so many times it got boring 6 months ago... and ignore the official statement saying their idea is not going to happen and post in the wrong forum anayway (this is a Suggestion), then telling them this seems fair.
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Wow - nothing better then having an idea, and then having to read 1000's of threads before posting.
And I can't recall anything official from the Dev team, only a message from the fourm mod (in threads & tacked on to a very old thread).
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It's about time this was looked at.
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They've looked at it, and they've made an official posting about it. Game population IS clearly more than good enough to sustain the servers, or the servers WOULD be merged. NC have shown they're more than willing to cut losses (Auto Assault and Tabula Rasa are good examples), and they even closed down the Korean CoH due to poor number; so the simple fact that they have stated there are no plans to merge should tell you that there is no NEED to merge.
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and yet everyweek someone new comes in here and asks the question.
No one new ever comes in here saying "lets keep the servers" it the same people who want to keep them that keep chanting "there is no server population problem". And its these same people who will end up being the death of the game.
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It's because those people have already level50 characters and have gone through all the content already and enjoyed it when there was a sustainable playerbase through all the zones.
They don't seem to care that almost every new player drops the game in a short while due to sheer boredom, because there is hardly anyone around anymore in the lower level zones.
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They don't seem to care that almost every new player drops the game in a short while due to sheer boredom, because there is hardly anyone around anymore in the lower level zones.
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Proof please, or is it just hyperbole? I see plenty of lower level character around, and I play plenty of lower level characters. I don't have any problems getting a PuG when I feel like it, and there's usually loads of people around.
One thing I've noticed is that the American practice of doing Sewer runs seems to have taken off lately. Perhaps you can't find anyone in Atlas because they're all knee deep in poo?
@FloatingFatMan
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
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They don't seem to care that almost every new player drops the game in a short while due to sheer boredom
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I see plenty of lower level character around,
[/ QUOTE ]i think he talking about new sub come to play, not new toon on older players
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They don't seem to care that almost every new player drops the game in a short while due to sheer boredom, because there is hardly anyone around anymore in the lower level zones.
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Proof please, or is it just hyperbole? I see plenty of lower level character around, and I play plenty of lower level characters. I don't have any problems getting a PuG when I feel like it, and there's usually loads of people around.
One thing I've noticed is that the American practice of doing Sewer runs seems to have taken off lately. Perhaps you can't find anyone in Atlas because they're all knee deep in poo?
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Around what time might that be? As on Defiant the chats are dead silent most of the time.
It's been a loooong time since I have seen PuG requests in chat.
In fact it has become very rare, because there are NOT plenty of low level characters around.
Maybe if you are in one of the few large Super Groups it's easier. I don't know.
But for a new player, not interested to be forced to join a large Supergroup, it's pretty hard to find other players at this time.
EDIT: And it's not fun for a new player to join a bunch of level20's in a Task Force with side kicking zerging through the levels like a maniac.
You don't learn to play your class properly and you miss out a great deal of content.
Steampunk i think you cat had to much milk it coming out of it nose lol