what's the point?
"Useless"?
If you think the set IOs you have are useless I'll gladly take them off your hands.
whats the point in posting incorrect info? - allow me to point you in the right direction so you can make better use of the new features.
1. the new slot set enhancements are to allow players to choose areas to gain bonuses in ( such as different set perks and procs etc ) and they subtly adjust character performance without changing it to the point that you have to play differently.
2. the 50 million or so recipes I've seen give the same percentage increase if you compare a damage against a standard IO, but standard IO's cant give regen bonuses, additional accuracy, mez protection or anything else because standard IO's dont give set bonuses.
3. the merit system still allows players to get random recipes, no different to the old system, with the exception of visiting a contact... but players can now save up for specific recipies, which has to be a plus when completing sets.
4. the market is player influenced pricing, whereas the npc's and invention tables charge a flat rate, so you are missing out on potential bargains by not using wentworths
5. IO's arent mandatory, you are correct, but they allow players to gain additional benefits and reward players for thinking ahead. You can complete ANY Mission in the game without IO's, but IO's make life just that little bit easier.
6. if you dont want your purple enhancements, send them to me as they are far from useless!

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well if what u say is true, why i cant have hasten or am always ready anymore.
it's just an example of what i experienced on my toons.
or have my smash and res % under 50 on my brute while in i13 was above?
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- what's the point to slot set enachements when i can't see any change on my toon performances
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If you can't see any effect, you are slotting wrong.
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-what's the point mantainin the markets when single or Io recipes can bought other ways
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Purple Recipes cannot be bought with merits.
Anything else, I guess you are talking about PvP, in which case, LOL.
I really should do something about this signature.
When was the last time you played? i5?
Perma-Hasten hasn't been around since ED.
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well if what u say is true, why i cant have hasten or am always ready anymore.
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You're confusing "useless" with "doesn't let me do absolutely everything I want".
yes i'm talkin about pvp, in pve zones sets r still usefull, but i dont think a pve player slot set just to fight npcs O_o
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i dont think a pve player slot set just to fight npcs O_o
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100% wrong
I really should do something about this signature.
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- what's the point to slot set enachements when i can't see any change on my toon performances
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I can. I monitor various stats on my main, and I exemp him a lot. The ease with which he defeats things at lower levels is hugely overshadowed (no pun intended) by the ease with which he defeats things at L50. There is a change. Trust me.
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-what's the poin in buyin a 50 millions worth recipe with many millions worth salvages to craft it whan a normal Io or a SO will have the same result
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I'll take that "useless" LotG Global Recharge off your hands, then...
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-what's the point in introducing the merit system when the dreamed unique recipes are now useless
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Okay, this is the one that confused me... NOW useless? Nothing has changed. If they are NOW useless then you are sayign thart they have ALWAYS been useless... when did set bonuses stop happening?
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To be able to buy them cheaply?
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-what's the point savin hundred millions when with 10 15 at least u can full slot a toon with So and doin ur job in a decent manner
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There isn't any. You're correct. However, if you want to have your character significantly better, then you can spend a fortune on a setted build. And it WILL be better.
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-what's the point introducing new set enachements when even the old purple ones became useless
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Like others have said, if you don't want your purples, I'll take them!
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i dont think a pve player slot set just to fight npcs O_o
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yes i'm talkin about pvp, in pve zones sets r still usefull, but i dont think a pve player slot set just to fight npcs O_o
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Heehee - you and Lionsbane should get together to debate things.
His position is that the multi-build system is flawed because regular players won't want to kit out with uber IO builds which make you king of PvP.
Overall, proof that the devs can't please all of the people all of the time.
I'm almost exclusively a PvE player, all my high level toons use set IOs. They make a major improvement in slotting efficiency.
that's the point, why i can be king of pve and not of pvp?
balancing things is good, but waste all player efforts slottin toon is not the right way to do it
i ask myself, can be fun uberslot a pve toon to do the same tf-sf arc done thousend times?
cant the pve well done with SO as we do some issues ago?
PvE and PvP have different rules sets now. That's part of the reason we now have dual builds.
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cant the pve well done with SO as we do some issues ago?
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Yes, of course it can! But some of us want to be really good at it, so we set out our PvE builds to let us do that.
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If you're part of a team that's fun to be with then yes.
Doesn't it get boring getting owned by the same PvP opponents every fight?
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that's the point, why i can be king of pve and not of pvp?
balancing things is good, but waste all player efforts slottin toon is not the right way to do it
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What's stopping you being King of PvP? Sets do provide an advantage in PvP, still. It's just not as much of an advantage as it was. The idea being that your skill as a PvPer now matters a lot more than the Enhancement sets or AT/Powersets you've gone for.
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that's the point, why i can be king of pve and not of pvp?
balancing things is good, but waste all player efforts slottin toon is not the right way to do it
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No, it is the point - Lionsbane's argument is that PvP's still flawed in I13, because the IOs you can get with grinding will still let you rule.
Still, that's his stance as I see it - if he agrees and wants to debate whether his opinion (IOs are overpowered for PvP) or yours (IOs are useless for PvP) is correct I'll let him do so himself.
This is the most clear evidence we have that some PvP players really don't understand PvE players.
A great many PvE players (probably the majority) like to collect sets, even though they could in theory play with just SOs. It gives them a way to advance thier character. Last time I looked you don't need badges to defeat PvE mobs either, but lots of people still collect them.
as for why have set bonuses been reduced in effectiveness in PvP, it's because of people like Lionsbane complaining that it's impossible to compete in PvP for players who can't spend endless hours farming. Do I agree with them? Not entierly, but since I don't PvP any more I don't care much.
I really should do something about this signature.
not if u work on ur build to try to cover the holes that makes u weaker than the owners
I just realised that this was more aimed towards PvP then PvE style play so i will have to refrain from commenting on this...
Although set bonus's DO still have a slight advantage over a player who doesnt have them (ie perma hasten anyone?)
i tried the new issue, and i think it's well done except for something:
- what's the point to slot set enachements when i can't see any change on my toon performances
-what's the poin in buyin a 50 millions worth recipe with many millions worth salvages to craft it whan a normal Io or a SO will have the same result
-what's the point in introducing the merit system when the dreamed unique recipes are now useless
-what's the point mantainin the markets when single or Io recipes can bought other ways
-what's the point savin hundred millions when with 10 15 at least u can full slot a toon with So and doin ur job in a decent manner
-what's the point introducing new set enachements when even the old purple ones became useless