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maybe a stupid question but just wanted to ask if ethers a free respec with this new issue, as I've heard there is.


 

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We don't know yet but the odds are for it.


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I'd suspect so, considering the PvP changes.

OTOH, there's also the dual build system...


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I'd say more than likely.


 

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Technically, there are no mandatory respecs with a new issue. Often however a "freespec" seems to land in our laps right after every new issue lands (IIRC that changed for I10 when it came first - or actually we got 2?)

However, any freespec awarded is purely discretionary and shouldn't be taken fro granted (but would be a dumb move if the dev's took it away)



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Technically, there are no mandatory respecs with a new issue. Often however a "freespec" seems to land in our laps right after every new issue lands (IIRC that changed for I10 when it came first - or actually we got 2?)

However, any freespec awarded is purely discretionary and shouldn't be taken fro granted (but would be a dumb move if the dev's took it away)

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I'm pretty sure we all were talking about a freespec when we said respec. Its pretty much the same thing.

I know we shouldn't take it for granted, but the changes to PvP are so huge, and as there are quite a few PvP-only toons they will almost have to give a freespec to compensate for the changes!


 

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and as there are quite a few PvP-only toons

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That bit is probably false. There are quite a few very loud people with PvP-only toons, and they would probably actually like 2 or 3 free respecs so they can work out a new build.


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It's worth mentioning that the free respecs that are given out do not stack, so if you have one unused, you're not going to get an extra one. If I recall correctly, these respecs tend to be given out just before the issue becomes live.


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It's worth mentioning that the free respecs that are given out do not stack, so if you have one unused, you're not going to get an extra one. If I recall correctly, these respecs tend to be given out just before the issue becomes live.

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IIRC it's usually the opposite; if powersets have changed significantly (which is the usual "excuse" for handing out a freespec) they want to give you time to experiment with the new system before giving you a freespec to fix things with.


 

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It's worth mentioning that the free respecs that are given out do not stack, so if you have one unused, you're not going to get an extra one. If I recall correctly, these respecs tend to be given out just before the issue becomes live.


Back in the day, the best indicator when an issue was about to go live was Bridger going on holiday a week beforehand

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I think they only did that once and then gave another subsequently


But sure almost certain there'll be a freespec about a week after I13 goes live - especially since Dual Builds goes live this issue



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If you have a respec, does it apply to both builds? Or just the active one?


 

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I'll have a sneaky guesstimation that it will be a one-off case of both due to the introduction of dual builds and the changes to existing powersets - but then expect it to apply solely to whichever build you select in the future.
Its just a sneaking suspicion really, anything less I imagine will leave people either peeved at their altered builds or not launching into the prospect of building that alternative build with gusto because they are skint.

Short answer: nobody knows yet, but heres hoping anyhow.


 

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I'll have a sneaky guesstimation that it will be a one-off case of both due to the introduction of dual builds and the changes to existing powersets - but then expect it to apply solely to whichever build you select in the future.
Its just a sneaking suspicion really, anything less I imagine will leave people either peeved at their altered builds or not launching into the prospect of building that alternative build with gusto because they are skint.

Short answer: nobody knows yet, but heres hoping anyhow.

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Good question.

I'm kinda with you but I'd like to think that one respec would work with both builds.



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It's one build per respec.

Which cunningly they started charging for a few months ago...


 

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Its just a sneaking suspicion really, anything less I imagine will leave people either peeved at their altered builds or not launching into the prospect of building that alternative build with gusto because they are skint.


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I'm not sure I understand this, it's sounds like you think that a second build would require a respec to create, however I would have thought that you could create your second build from the word go.


 

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Its just a sneaking suspicion really, anything less I imagine will leave people either peeved at their altered builds or not launching into the prospect of building that alternative build with gusto because they are skint.


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I'm not sure I understand this, it's sounds like you think that a second build would require a respec to create, however I would have thought that you could create your second build from the word go.

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I think that's the case alright, when you go to a Trainer and choose to switch builds the first time you go through the Levelling Process (which sounds rather clunky to be honest) up to your current level.

After that I think a Respec affects only the currently active build.


 

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Yeah there's a potential worm can here



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That's exactly how it works. When you switch to your second build it is initially at level 1 (zero really). You have to speek to the trainer to level up one level at a time until your current level.

It's very clunky on level 50s, but is okay on new characters, since you can level each build in tandem.


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That's exactly how it works. When you switch to your second build it is initially at level 1 (zero really). You have to speek to the trainer to level up one level at a time until your current level.

It's very clunky on level 50s, but is okay on new characters, since you can level each build in tandem.

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But if you can only swap builds every 15 mins, then you would only be able to level the build you are playing, otherwise you would have to wait to swap back. Seems that the best option would be to level the 2nd build at the end of each play session.


 

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That's exactly how it works. When you switch to your second build it is initially at level 1 (zero really). You have to speek to the trainer to level up one level at a time until your current level.

It's very clunky on level 50s, but is okay on new characters, since you can level each build in tandem.

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I haven't tried this on test yet Praf, so when you gain a level, do you have to choose a power per build?



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You level up as normal, but only your current build.

You have to switch to your other build to level up that build.


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That's 'level up' obviously, not 'gain levels.' i.e. Next time you switch builds, if there are level gains to be taken, you would then apply them, but since you're standing beside a trainer anyway, that's not too terrible.

Edit If you think about it, a respec should only apply to one build, the current one. Would you want to be forced to rebuild both builds just to swap one or two powers in one of them?


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There is an issue if you level up your main build, then switch to your secondry build to level up, you can't change back to your main build for 15 minutes.


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There is an issue if you level up your main build, then switch to your secondry build to level up, you can't change back to your main build for 15 minutes.

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Yes, if you want to work that way, but there's no actual need to level up your alternative build until you wish to use it. When you do wish to use it, you're standing beside a trainer who can do the level-ups. The issue you're referring to is player stupidity. About the only real problem would be a need to fit enhancements, but we still aren't talking about a horrible, long-winded process.


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