Ability to "PvP/E" against yourself


Alphane

 

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What would be the possibility so that you can rig your account or the PvP settings so that you can test your build against one or more of your own toons which are being controlled by the AI?

For instance, I have a kin/rad defender, and I would like to tweak it's performance against defense based toons, like my ice/em tank, but now I have to wait around for one of my friends to come around so he can do the test with me.

I think it would be good fun too. Set up a map, add 4 or so of toons to the maps, 2 to a side and rumble.

Not sure how possible or viable this would be, but I hope that there is something like this in the pipeline


 

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none, at the moment, because the AI doesn't know how to use your powers.

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Things the "generic" AI cannot do:
1) Use Toggles
2) Heal or Buff allies (exception: If you gave the critter no attack powers, this would work moderately well.)
3) Use any Target: Location power, including Teleport or Pet Summons.
4) Use Weapon and Non-Weapon powers (think AR/Dev Blasters)
5) Cycle between ranged and melee powers

There are more, but that should get the idea across. It often takes days to get a single critters powers to work well enough to be used. If a critter is meant to have any of the above effects, I have to create a custom AI script and/or custom powers in order to accomplish the goal.

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-Castle

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One thing I pondered about that when I first read it, if Castle has scripted Custom AIs to work in certain ways, ensuring toggles are on or whatever, it might be possible to assign the most suitable of those AIs to a custom character and get decent results.


 

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At this point it doesn't seem likley to become an in game option


 

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maybe someone is already trying to make an AI mod, it's only a hope NCsoft assists him instead of shuffing his idea away.


 

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5) Cycle between ranged and melee powers


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But don't some mobs with guns also use Brawl when fighting close up, as well as using their weapons?


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Sure, lots of mobs do the things mentioned, but they need special AI scripts to do it (and some powers are modified, e.g. to make them player targeted instead of location targeted, etc).

It involves a lot of trial and error to get the mob to behaive in the desired way. You can't just assign powers to mobs and expect them to be able to use them.


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ooooh this sounds like someone has been reading CO notes with the arch nemisis system..... or smt similar to neway

would be good and if cryptic can do it why the hell cant NCNC


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You don't have to have read the CO notes, a nemesis system is an old suggestion from the forums.


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true but why did it take CO to impliment it and CoX apparently disregard it

nn way happy cake day and good night all


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It's a lot easier to design something in from the front end than add it in later.

NWN has been around for ages and lets you assign powers to mobs, which they can use, after a fasion at least. Thet's because the AI system was designed that way.

The AI system in CoH wasn't designed with that in mind (and don't forget the person in charge then is now in charge of CO). Retrofitting a whole new AI system is a very major operation, although it may happen eventually.

we don't know what COs arch nemisis system will be capable of. It may well be a matter of selecting an "off the peg" set of powers, and customising the costume.


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I'll be quite surprised if it isn't. I think people underestimate the amount of effort that needs to go into creating AI scripts. Actually, I pretty much know they do.


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