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i also think there r enuf gun sets, the only other one i want to see wud be a dual pistol set, if not that then no more really, i feel more SUPER powers r needed, not gun powers. 
Okay..That sounded like the mobile text like mumbo jumbo, even though were not in game, we still talk properly.
The main reason I put a Gun/Weaponry Controll set was because there are no weaponry control sets, let me break it down...
Corruptor/Blaster - Assault Rifle
Defender - Bow and arrow
Masterminds - Pistols/Assault Rifles/Bow and arrow/Pulse rifles
Scrappers - Blades Galore
Stalkers - Light blades
Tankers - Big weapons
Brutes - Big weapons
CONTROLLERS _ nothing (apart from the trick arrow for no apparent reason)
DOMINATORS - Absolute nothing
so I think we can at least squeeze this one in as a control set, Trollers and mainly Doms are left out in weapon customisation sadly.
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because there are no weaponry control sets
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What's Trick Arrow then?
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Debuff.
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Entangling Arrow, Poison Gas Arrow, EMP Arrow...
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It has some controls, but it is a debuff set, not a control set. Thats why its a defender primary, and controllers only get it as a secondary.
Say I want to play a controller who is a natural origin human. There is currently no primary available that fits that description.
Oh, and Poison Gas Arrow isn't a control, its a damage debuff, with a low chance of brief sleep as a side effect.
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*shrug*
Oil slick does some knockdown as well. Quite a lot of control for a debuff set, but as you wish. (I'm not totally sure that there needs to be a distinction between those things really, but I guess it's the way they parcel up the goodies.)
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*shrug*
Oil slick does some knockdown as well. Quite a lot of control for a debuff set, but as you wish. (I'm not totally sure that there needs to be a distinction between those things really, but I guess it's the way they parcel up the goodies.)
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By strict catagorisation (as TA/ lacks a mass hold, and mass immob) it is not a control set. However, i personally put it in the same box as Dark/. Nice debuffs, very nice soft control
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Say I want to play a controller who is a natural origin human. There is currently no primary available that fits that description.
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I would diagree
Fire-Man with molotov cocktails
Plant-Gaia loves you so much she sends her 'children' to protect you
Just 2 possible ideas I'm sure others could come up with better/more.
Aliens are natural origin, but I see your point. Except... that just means a 'natural' controller needs a Tech origin.
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Fire-Man with molotov cocktails
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Yeah, right, I can see exactly how a molotov cocktail could turn into an imp.
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Plant-Gaia loves you so much she sends her 'children' to protect you
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Which would make your origin magic.
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Aliens are natural origin,
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That's why I specified human. I have a natural dominator, but he aint human.
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Except... that just means a 'natural' controller needs a Tech origin.
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Tech origin can explain current controler powers. I could invent a gravity device.
The Tac Rifle uses technology similar to non-lethal crowd control technology that exists in the real world. As it doesn't require any exotic tech it would be perfect for a natural human controler, perhaps of the Super-cop ilk.
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Okay..That sounded like the mobile text like mumbo jumbo, even though were not in game, we still talk properly.
The main reason I put a Gun/Weaponry Controll set was because there are no weaponry control sets, let me break it down...
Corruptor/Blaster - Assault Rifle
Defender - Bow and arrow
Masterminds - Pistols/Assault Rifles/Bow and arrow/Pulse rifles
Scrappers - Blades Galore
Stalkers - Light blades
Tankers - Big weapons
Brutes - Big weapons
CONTROLLERS _ nothing (apart from the trick arrow for no apparent reason)
DOMINATORS - Absolute nothing
so I think we can at least squeeze this one in as a control set, Trollers and mainly Doms are left out in weapon customisation sadly.
(and word to the wise, if your new to the forum, try not to start flinging /unsigned's so soon when your inexperienced in the forum, I'm still preparing to do one after at least 200 posts)
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Don't forget Soldiers get a fair bit of gun control
I don't have an intrinsic problem with additional gun sets. If it adds to the game players are not obliged to take them if they don't want to and there are plenty of superhero/comicbook references to draw from, Punisher, Wanted, Powers, Nick Fury, The Hood to name a few and I'm sure others will gladly add to this list.
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I thought this would be a pants idea but I like it 
Reminds me of something I read years ago by a guy who develops new crowd control technology. He was working on some kind of foam which would harden super fast when sprayed on peaceful demonstrators.
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The primary looks interesting
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That was kind of my point. You can be perfectly human with a Tech origin.
Besides, while you could make a Natural (human) controller with this Tac Rifle, you'd be then stuck with Trick Arrow is a secondary which should make for a character that looks about as stupid as anything I can think of. I think a better reason is needed than 'so we can have normal humans who don't use high-tech gadgets.' (Though most of the crowd control weapons you are talking about can't be glued into one weapon without some very high-tech so the point is a little moot.)
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Rambo troller yes plese
Proliferate Traps.
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Sounds good. I know it's not entirely suitable, but why not proliferate AR as a secondary. I'd assume the same models so they could probably cut out the redraws that way.
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Fire-Man with molotov cocktails
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Yeah, right, I can see exactly how a molotov cocktail could turn into an imp.
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Plant-Gaia loves you so much she sends her 'children' to protect you
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Which would make your origin magic.
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Aliens are natural origin,
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That's why I specified human. I have a natural dominator, but he aint human.
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Except... that just means a 'natural' controller needs a Tech origin.
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Tech origin can explain current controler powers. I could invent a gravity device.
The Tac Rifle uses technology similar to non-lethal crowd control technology that exists in the real world. As it doesn't require any exotic tech it would be perfect for a natural human controler, perhaps of the Super-cop ilk.
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I've always seen origon as being a very relative concept perhaps you aren't happy with 'natural' controllers others might be, thats all I'm saying rather than ANY natural origins out there got it all wrong if they chose to play a controller. 
It's easy enough to be a natural origin controller, so long as you are not human. But if you go by the in game origin descriptions, there isn't anything that fits the "ordinary human driven to be a hero (villain)" idea for controllers (dominators). All the other non-epic ATs have powersets that suit this kind of character.
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I'm saying rather than ANY natural origins out there got it all wrong if they chose to play a controller.
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Not that I said that, of course, even if that's what you read. There are two kinds of Natural, humans with skills and aliens (in general anyway). The latter can explain anything, but you need to be a bit more careful about the former.
@PRAF: I see your point, but not necessarily the need for it. Though there was the case of one well known (to GG anyway) hero who made a 'mind controller' who did his stuff by receipting poetry and prose at his 'victims'. A few stanzas from an epic poem and people fell asleep. Weird that. Leif made him, IIRC. I think he was Natural. You can do some very odd things if you mind is warped... er, creative enough. 
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It's easy enough to be a natural origin controller, so long as you are not human. But if you go by the in game origin descriptions, there isn't anything that fits the "ordinary human driven to be a hero (villain)" idea for controllers (dominators). All the other non-epic ATs have powersets that suit this kind of character.
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Natural Mind Controller. Natural Origin is defined as also training yourself to an extreme. One could train their mind so much that they start to exhibit psychic powers.
There you go. A Natural Origin Controller.
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Yeah, I'll let you have that, since Fortunatas are natural, it's reasonable to assume that some degree of psi powers are natural to humans in the CoX universe.
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I guess the whole "natural" thing can be distorted as much as you want when you've got so many variable powers in the game. I must admit Scarlet Shocker is a natural origin elec blaster, which at first glance sounds a bit wierd (And she can fly). But my explanation is simply this: She doesn't create electricity, she simply harnesses the latent electricity all around us, static, and through cables etc and acts as a conduit so draws it from one source and directs it at another. It works.
So when in a universe of super-beings, who's to say what is, or is not, natural?
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No. More. Gun. Sets.
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The reason I put this in is because there isnt enough gun sets...Theres 1, and 3 minor gun sets only available with masterminds (at the moment)
But I see your point, weapons are taking over the game, that is because the devs have practically used up most super powers that can fit in.
Sorry. I. Cant. please. Everybody
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There are more than enough gun sets. One is more than enough.
Don't have a problem with weapons, per se.. it's just guns. In a super hero MMO, they're naff, and imo at least, rather unoriginal given the number of other games out there that are centred around gun combat.
This is a "Suggestions" forum, not a popularity one, so don't expect to "please everyone".
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somehow i agree with this, you have the blaster/corrupter guns and masterminds have some gun powers.
plenty of gun powers, if you ask me.
the only one i think is worth adding is the dual gun AT, others are not needed.