A Tough Choice
Broadsword every time.
Best spike damage but only problem is you won't even see the stalkers!
Defiant 50's
Many and varied!
@Miss Chief
I guess you could try the BS/Regen and run tictacs, focc acc and the +perception IO. But I have a feeling you would still not see a well built/slotted one until he was giving you a slap with the pompoms of doom.
Iirc, a perception capped scrapper (FA+Tictacs+set power perception, not sure if the later can be compensated with the +perc IO)against a stealth capped stalker in RV will allow him to see the stalker when at 10 ft distance... which may be too late BUT a BS/Regen can always hit Dull Pain+Build Up+Head Splitter and if he lands a critical, then I guess the scrapper can giggle for a while, although I wouldn't count on the stalker to stay idle after AS
I went with spines/regen anyhow, can someone post up a good pvp build please thanks
The good new is that the "Pom Poms of Doom" aren't quite so "Doom" in PvP anymore ever since the Energy Transfer Animation tweak. A Stalker is going to find it very tricky these days to kill a decently built Regen Scrapper, unless the Regen is AFK (or hasn't brought breakfrees versus an EM Stalker that stacks stuns).
On the flipside, you're not ever going to catch a decently built Stalker unless you have the Weapon Mastery epic pool (and even then, if they have Teleport or Phase... forget about it). Spines or no Spines.
Out of interest, why /regen. I agree I stopped having trouble with Stalkers a while back when I can be bothered to go near a PvP zone, but that's mostly down to FA making them visible before they can AS me and the Alpha itself not being able to waste me.
What's so great about /regen as adverse to /wp, for example?
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Would a broad/fire work better against stalkers?
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Out of interest, why /regen. I agree I stopped having trouble with Stalkers a while back when I can be bothered to go near a PvP zone, but that's mostly down to FA making them visible before they can AS me and the Alpha itself not being able to waste me.
What's so great about /regen as adverse to /wp, for example?
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WP can't heal back to full in under one second right after an AS, nor can they sit permanently at the Scrapper HP Cap like a well-slotted IOed Regen. Only bad stalkers are going to be visible via just FA. You'd need Tactics and FA and a powerset +Perc power running to see stalkers within 10 feet when they're at the stealth cap, and even then you'll never ever want to stand still when there's a GOOD stalker about.
Thanks for all the tips, Maelwys would you be so kind as to post up a mid heroes build for my build for pvp in RV, thank you
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Out of interest, why /regen. I agree I stopped having trouble with Stalkers a while back when I can be bothered to go near a PvP zone, but that's mostly down to FA making them visible before they can AS me and the Alpha itself not being able to waste me.
What's so great about /regen as adverse to /wp, for example?
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WP can't heal back to full in under one second right after an AS, nor can they sit permanently at the Scrapper HP Cap like a well-slotted IOed Regen. Only bad stalkers are going to be visible via just FA. You'd need Tactics and FA and a powerset +Perc power running to see stalkers within 10 feet when they're at the stealth cap, and even then you'll never ever want to stand still when there's a GOOD stalker about.
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Clearly, I've never met a good Stalker.
WP has resistances and defence, which means they shouldn't ever have to heal as much from an AS... unless AS ignores resistances. Bare in mind I haven't been in game for well over a year, and IOs barely existed last time I was. I really only just started researching what can be done with them, never mind actually slotting any of them.
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Out of interest, why /regen. I agree I stopped having trouble with Stalkers a while back when I can be bothered to go near a PvP zone, but that's mostly down to FA making them visible before they can AS me and the Alpha itself not being able to waste me.
What's so great about /regen as adverse to /wp, for example?
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WP can't heal back to full in under one second right after an AS, nor can they sit permanently at the Scrapper HP Cap like a well-slotted IOed Regen. Only bad stalkers are going to be visible via just FA. You'd need Tactics and FA and a powerset +Perc power running to see stalkers within 10 feet when they're at the stealth cap, and even then you'll never ever want to stand still when there's a GOOD stalker about.
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Clearly, I've never met a good Stalker.
WP has resistances and defence, which means they shouldn't ever have to heal as much from an AS... unless AS ignores resistances. Bare in mind I haven't been in game for well over a year, and IOs barely existed last time I was. I really only just started researching what can be done with them, never mind actually slotting any of them.
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AS is unresisted in PvP, and unfortunately WP's defence values aren't really worth much in PvP, given that everyone has +accuracy slotting and set bonuses up the whazoo. Scrapper WP just doesn't have the HP to be able to recover from a (Build Up + AS) in time to avoid being two or three shot.
Let's try it this way: An EM Stalker can fairly easily (in terms of damage output) two shot a Scrapper at the HP cap. However since the Energy Transfer animation time nerf, a Regen or INV Scrapper will be able to heal back to full HP after an AS before the Stalker can land that second hit. On the other hand, a WP Scrapper has no means to self-heal from such a drastic damage spike within a short period of time, and will be two-shot.
Moral of the story: If you're heroside and planning to stand still in a PvP zone, make sure you're either phased, buffed to high heaven, or on a Tanker or a Scrapper with your finger hovering over a clickyheal. And even then, it's still better to just bind a button to "++up" and tap the WASD keys.
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Thanks for all the tips, Maelwys would you be so kind as to post up a mid heroes build for my build for pvp in RV, thank you
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It honestly depends what you want to do.
Normally the only must-haves for a PVP Scrapper are good movement, well-slotted armor/attacks, Focussed Accuracy (many villain armor sets are based on Defence) and a lot of Accuracy + Recharge slotting.
Do you want to actively hunt Stalkers, or just survive a stalker's sneak attack? Because you don't need anything special to survive a few lone stalkers, just a key bound to permajump and a clickyheal on standby...
If you want to fight Corrs or Doms, Slot up Ripper, Impale and Throw Spines. You'll probably want either MoG and/or Phase Shift to get out or certain situations or debuffs, and always carry breakfrees.
If you want to Fight Masterminds, get Teleport Foe. You will only beat poor Masterminds on a Scrapper in a "fair fight", even with Spines... they just have too many tricks to lock you down and keep you debuffed.
If you want to fight Brutes, I'd reroll. Spines just doesn't have the Damage output to dent a good Brute.
VEAT armor is based more on Defence than resistance, but they can be built for damage output, to be fairly resilient or/and for Mez capability too. I'd focus on Ranged Damage and Accuracy, and bring breakfrees.
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AS is unresisted in PvP, and unfortunately WP's defence values aren't really worth much in PvP, given that everyone has +accuracy slotting and set bonuses up the whazoo. Scrapper WP just doesn't have the HP to be able to recover from a (Build Up + AS) in time to avoid being two or three shot.
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'kay, seems fair. I used to have my finger on the Dull Pain key whenever I was standing still.
What used to really irritate me was not the initial AS, it was Placate. "Okay, you've hit Placate and gone Hidden again. Well I can still see you I'll just hit you and break the Hide... So Placate means I can't target you, even though I can see you?!! Stupid game."
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Thanks for all the tips, Maelwys would you be so kind as to post up a mid heroes build for my build for pvp in RV, thank you
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It honestly depends what you want to do.
Normally the only must-haves for a PVP Scrapper are good movement, well-slotted armor/attacks, Focussed Accuracy (many villain armor sets are based on Defence) and a lot of Accuracy + Recharge slotting.
Do you want to actively hunt Stalkers, or just survive a stalker's sneak attack? Because you don't need anything special to survive a few lone stalkers, just a key bound to permajump and a clickyheal on standby...
If you want to fight Corrs or Doms, Slot up Ripper, Impale and Throw Spines. You'll probably want either MoG and/or Phase Shift to get out or certain situations or debuffs, and always carry breakfrees.
If you want to Fight Masterminds, get Teleport Foe. You will only beat poor Masterminds on a Scrapper in a "fair fight", even with Spines... they just have too many tricks to lock you down and keep you debuffed.
If you want to fight Brutes, I'd reroll. Spines just doesn't have the Damage output to dent a good Brute.
VEAT armor is based more on Defence than resistance, but they can be built for damage output, to be fairly resilient or/and for Mez capability too. I'd focus on Ranged Damage and Accuracy, and bring breakfrees.
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I guess I just want to be able to hold my own in PVP and surive the sneak attack of stalkers I would love to be able to take damage from a brute as well, would be nice,
I know what powers im taking I guess but I have no idea about slotting as of yet.
I was told not to take reslience as its pointless and revive, so other then that im open to build ideas?
Hey peeps, been away for a while and now im back so hey :P.
Just wanted to get an idea of a scrapper I have in mind, would love some comments, you see I want a good pvp char and I keep having problems with pesky stalkers, so people told me why not build a /regen scrapper they are the nuts im told....
sooo I heard spines/regen or bs/regen but I cant seem to decide or is there a 3rd choice im not aware of.
What im looking to do is hold my own in RV and give stalkers a smack in the face when they AS which I need to survive.
Many Thanks for your time