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Basically I have slotted tactics with the perception IO, but I was wondering, for the purposes of PvP, will it actually let me see anyone I couldnt see before with tatcics alone?
I was wondering if someone who understood the numbers could explain it for me?
Cheers
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I think it depends on what AT you are playing as.Not 100% sure since i dont have the numbers but it makes a difference on defenders.Not on blasters though since i suspect its what you are interested in.
The perception IO grants you an additional 100ft of +perception (20% of base), so it depends on who you're trying to see. There is a perception cap though, which scales by level. Lots of numbers here if you're interested.
CoX 50s: <ill/rad> <ice/ice> <fire/kin> <grav/sonic> <ice/storm> <earth/kin> <kin/elec> <cold/psy> <thugs/dark> <fire/dark> <dark/elec> <night widow> <EM/ninj> <mind/icy>
Those numbers didnt make all that much sense to me. But I think I worked out that with tactics on a blaster I think that would allow me to see any non-stalker at their stealth cap, could someone know undertsnad the numbers tell me if that is correct?
Now afaik SoA have a higher than normal stealth cap, but not as high as a stalker. Now would tactics and percep IO allow me to see a SoA while at thier stealth cap? What is reqired to get a SoA to stealth cap? Also would it allow me to see a stalker who only had hide/stealth but no IO?
You need to remember that the +perception and +stealth affect the distance you're trying to see the other party at. So every increase in +perception helps you to spot the hidden people from further away (until you hit the perception cap). So even if it doesn't give you new targets to see in pvp, it will help you target the old ones from further away.
(I won't give a better answer as a) I'm at work and can't check my perception notes and b) I don't have a clue about soldiers' and widows' stealths)
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Those numbers didnt make all that much sense to me. But I think I worked out that with tactics on a blaster I think that would allow me to see any non-stalker at their stealth cap, could someone know undertsnad the numbers tell me if that is correct?
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Assuming no other (de)buffs, yes (for a non-stalker). At level 50: base perception (+500) + tactics (+243) - non-stalker stealth cap (-575) = 168 ft. So you will see them at this distance. If in addition you slot the +perc IO, you will see them at 268 ft. For a stalker with Hide+Stealth (again at lvl 50), this would not be enough (even if they don't have a +stealth IO) since 843 < 889 (500 + 389), so you would need additional buffs such as CM, Clarity, yellow insps, etc. to see them.
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Now afaik SoA have a higher than normal stealth cap, but not as high as a stalker. Now would tactics and percep IO allow me to see a SoA while at thier stealth cap? What is reqired to get a SoA to stealth cap? Also would it allow me to see a stalker who only had hide/stealth but no IO?
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I'm not sure what the SoA stealth cap is but they get -400 or -500 from their stealth power and -300 from the IO. Remember than unlike stalkers' Hide, they cannot use their powerset stealth (Mask Presence or Cloaking Device) and (pool) Stealth/Invis at the same time. So depending on what the stealth cap is, they might also need additional buffs to reach it.
CoX 50s: <ill/rad> <ice/ice> <fire/kin> <grav/sonic> <ice/storm> <earth/kin> <kin/elec> <cold/psy> <thugs/dark> <fire/dark> <dark/elec> <night widow> <EM/ninj> <mind/icy>
What he said.
*ninja'd*
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to see them more than 10 ft away.
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The 10 ft rule only applies to situations where both the perceiver and a stalker are at their respective caps. as such, the buffs are needed to see them at all.
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*ninja-edit* Huh? Of course, you're right 
CoX 50s: <ill/rad> <ice/ice> <fire/kin> <grav/sonic> <ice/storm> <earth/kin> <kin/elec> <cold/psy> <thugs/dark> <fire/dark> <dark/elec> <night widow> <EM/ninj> <mind/icy>
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I'm not sure what the SoA stealth cap is
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Actually it seems to be 852 ft (at lvl 49 which is where my widow is atm).
CoX 50s: <ill/rad> <ice/ice> <fire/kin> <grav/sonic> <ice/storm> <earth/kin> <kin/elec> <cold/psy> <thugs/dark> <fire/dark> <dark/elec> <night widow> <EM/ninj> <mind/icy>
Oh and don't forget the Police/Arachnos Drones 1500 Perception Proximity Buff.
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Basically I have slotted tactics with the perception IO, but I was wondering, for the purposes of PvP, will it actually let me see anyone I couldnt see before with tatcics alone?
I was wondering if someone who understood the numbers could explain it for me?
Cheers