Great to hear that your loving Sonic/Sonic Def, what lvl you at atm? It's people like you that make me wonder what a specific powered AT would be like, hhmmmm thinks on this, "altaholism kicks in and rolls a Sonic/Sonic Def".
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Morphius - MA/Regen - Union
Taelan - Ice B/Ice M - Union
Hellyon - Ice A/SS - Defiant
Bubbletastic - FF/Energy B - Union
Only 15 atm, but already loving the effect, had a team today of almost all mellee classes + me.. it was great, everything got debuffed to hell, as all were stood next to guy with my res debuff aura on him 
Suprisingly, invites have been constant, teams seem be more organised now i'm not empathy (they stoped thinking ohhh i'm imortal now I got a pocket healer) though I do miss having a ress..
I'm even loving the noisy as hell blasts, on down side, realy need stam now as that aura debuff sucks end fast, though I have learnt that my end barely moves, if party has been a tad battered :P
Even enjoying throwing ready brek shields at others, as I run by
found down side, not sure if it was just team, but having to redo 14 shields EVERY fight totaly sucks! though i'm sure my team just set a record for standing around with thumbs up [censored]!!
"Squeek?" More like
GRAAAAAAH!!!! 
Kinda worried, just been reading and saw controlers are going to be geting thermal?
Is thermal going to render sonic kinda pointless? arnt the shields almost the same, pluss all those other heals and buffs, i'm kinda worried I would be obsolete?
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Kinda worried, just been reading and saw controllers are going to be geting thermal?
Is thermal going to render sonic kinda pointless? aren't the shields almost the same, plus all those other heals and buffs, i'm kinda worried I would be obsolete?
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Many characters end up looking relatively pointless when there is a certain something else in the team. On a single foe a mind controller could use dominate and a earth controller could use fossilize. The only person that looks like they have done anything is the earth controller. Who will get nominated as controller of the mission? I do wonder..not. Even graphics can make one person look as if they are pulling weight more than another.
Obviously some players because of how they are set up or do things will prefer someone who can say; heal . On villain side I have had a /Sonic Corrupter from day one and there has been /Thermal Corrupters from day one. I think some players fear to team with one more than the other when it comes to playing with...yes the one without the heal.
I won't insist that players worth their salt will succeed with a sonic for support more than a thermal. There is the thing where some support sets do more for some characters than others but in terms of support the Thermal would be seen as the more helpful/useful. Even because of how people play the level of possible support can change.
Many people in game have been saying that Controllers are superior to Defenders already...so no matter what defender you have, you maybe seen as rather unnecessary.
Figuratively speaking you'll either be balanced or in need of a tweak. In game speaking, people like to have what they consider the better sets in the team. If people like pace they will go with their hunches.
I have seen someone delete their sonic defender to be an empath defender..*facepalms*. I find that kind of thing sad. You should have a concept, play the toon and just enjoy it. You may come across teams whose plan A, B and C is to dive in and do the same stupid thing and say I will get my "insert here" afterwards but any giving up on a concept isn't going to make anyone else a better player.
He will honor his words; he will definitely carry out his actions. What he promises he will fulfill. He does not care about his bodily self, putting his life and death aside to come forward for another's troubled besiegement. He does not boast about his ability, or shamelessly extol his own virtues. - Sima Qian.
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Many people in game have been saying that Controllers are superior to Defenders already...so no matter what defender you have, you maybe seen as rather unnecessary.
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Or vise versa in the case of Dark Defenders
I did think Thermal was a bit powerful to be giving to Controllers. I can only guess that giving a pet class access to Frostwork was seen as the greater of 2 evils so Defenders got Cold and Controllers got Thermal.
They should balance it by giving Defenders Traps (with Defender values for them all).
To be honest I'd have probably given Controllers no secondary and started just giving them to Defenders to give the AT more uniqueness (so hero-side Thermal, Cold and Traps defenders. Controllers already have loads of secondaries).
Thanks for info guys, poor little mouse mat got deleted lastning, her secondary was giving me far too many headachs 
(yeh I could turn sound off, but I just cant play like that)
Kinda anoying as she had just got stam, so shielding everyone nolonger ment going omm all time..
Still thinking of keeping the sonic/ just trying think of what to put with it now, though I am being tempted to /kinetics controler or kin/ deffender instead..
problem I have with deffenders over controlers tbh, is defffender has a blaster type secondary (I realy get no buzz, blowing [censored] up) yet controlers get a deffencive set pluss another controling set that also mitigates so much damage...
Too many darn choices lol...
I have to say Mouse that I too find no real joy in going "pop" and making stuff go boom.
I play almost solely controllers, and with a level 41 Pure Empath Defender, vs any level of any of my trollers you can probably guess which one I find myself feeling more productive to the team with.
The only benefit defender primaries have over controller secondaries is in a few bigger numbers, and thats more than mid up for in our other mitigation tools (which I dont mind saying are better)
While I have never found a concept that really worked enough for me to play SOnic/Sonic Defender, I could indeed see myself playing a /sonic troller, Probably another Gravity, since i enjoy that primary so much.
Looking at the numbers, yeah the shields are identical, pretty much, but the sheer Debuff Res numbers of Sonic are good.
Heals are not needed, not with a good controller, so if you switched to a controller /sonic you may enjoy it more. Thne only real failing of sonic is that there is no -regen power, which is a very similar failing to FFs, and indeed Sonic Makes up for this failing in ways which FF does not.
on a mildly off topic note, I wish we had gotten /Cold on Controllers too, it would have made me so happy.
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My Sonic/Sonic is a Corr and I love her dearly, just really a more aggressive Defender (and really all my defenders are aggressive anyway).
In teams I found that I was spamming my Screech, Howl and Siren's (hey it's a cone attack) more than anything else, with bubble and field always on. Great fun. I was the only debuffer on an Ice Mistral SF and though it took a while (mainly because the AV is a doity cheater with two huge heals) -Res was the only thing going and we eventually defeated him. My success though won't change people and their apparent need/desire/blinddevotion to Kin and Rad (I actually got kicked from a team because I didn't have a heal).
Just because Thermals have heals/debuffs/buffs, especially when you consider the lovely choice of Thermals we have on villains, the All Thermal All The Time (all powers), the h34l0rs (just heals), Shieldy McGree (just shields), the [censored] (havetotakeheal and...rez).
Shame you deleted the defender though.
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yeh mouse was fun, but her secondary realy realy gave me a headach after few hrs.. she will be remade with different secondary though..
made a little goth named dead doll atm though as finaly found nice concept for grav controller, she is haunted by a polterguist, named theador who likes to throw things, but its happy to throw stuff at vilans for her
toon looks scarely like my 10 year old little goth daughter too :P
But will deffinitly do another sonic/ deff..
10-year-old Goth daughter? Surely that's two years too early for being sullen and morose. Give her that My Little Pony back dammit.
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She just loves the look, though we did catch her pretending to sulk, while stood in town the other day, when asked why she simply replied "I have to fit in though"
She got the whole goth thing from Dead Doll colectables, when she was six, she was afraid of the dark, so asked for one of the Dead Doll's, she said they scare the dark away (she has autistic spectrum, so has some very unique ideas) oddly enough, she never complained about the dark ever again
So sonic blast gave you a headache? Sonic Resonance had been changed to prevent people getting headaches. Maybe too few had sonic blast. I don't like the idea of deleting, I normally make another although I have been so close to deleting after thinking that my concept was completely ruined. In a way it still is, but the powers were actually changed to make sure other people don't get headaches XD .
20 levels is quite a few hours play I might of simply had a break from the character but headaches are uncomfortable.
He will honor his words; he will definitely carry out his actions. What he promises he will fulfill. He does not care about his bodily self, putting his life and death aside to come forward for another's troubled besiegement. He does not boast about his ability, or shamelessly extol his own virtues. - Sima Qian.
Well I been playing on my new Grav/kin and she is great fun too, ironicaly, my mate who sits next to me to play, missed my sonic/sonic so much, he went and rolled one, so tada the headaches are now stalking me lol...
Muhaha me rolled a Ta/a deffender, now this is fun, sooooooo many debuffs and none of the noise so no headache...
Lol I have a level 50 Sonic/Sonic and a TA/A Defender, both great fun and play differently.
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Well I been playing on my new Grav/kin and she is great fun too, ironicaly, my mate who sits next to me to play, missed my sonic/sonic so much, he went and rolled one, so tada the headaches are now stalking me lol...
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Before I tell you this you better sit down and take a deep breath.
He's not your friend
Firekitty done a Grav/Kin guide a long while back. Its a bit of alright really. I just would try to avoid sbing those that don't want it rather than calling them rubbish and sb them anyway . I think if you have hurdle and lack combat jump its easy to overshoot and if you sb someone in motion they enter mobs earlier than they timed.
Trick Archery is a more enjoyable set imo. In some circumstances you will be less useful than a sonic (and there was you worried about thermals XD ). TA doesn't hand teams uberness on a plate in some cases, but those cases aren't necessarily impossible, success just won't be handed on a plate. I think the same thing with storm as well. Great sets, great for people who like to think, playing one or with one. TA with other defenders can be awesome fun but TA played with people who have pets can be annoying because of oil slick.
He will honor his words; he will definitely carry out his actions. What he promises he will fulfill. He does not care about his bodily self, putting his life and death aside to come forward for another's troubled besiegement. He does not boast about his ability, or shamelessly extol his own virtues. - Sima Qian.
TA played with knockback is more annoying than when played with pets.
And the Burning Panic of Oil Slick is (alledgedly) fixed so it'll play happily with pets now. Although if you peruse the Issue 5 or 6 release notes you'll note they same the same thing
I have a sonic/elec at 42 (I think) and a dark/sonic at 40
The sonic attacks are great vs single targets if you can put up with the sound effects, they do a good chunk of -res so chain together 3 or 4 attacks and you can do some good damage.
Sonic Primary, is great esp at the eairly/mid levels. Blasters in the hollows should love you if they have any clue 
In the later levels they tend to get weaker/less important
Although you'll work great with any def based sets and will turn an ice/ tank into an unstoppable killing machine and regen scrappers into even more unstoppable killing machines.
One great power that other team members often miss/don't realise the advantage of is the large sonic bubble, not so much for the resistance boost but the immoblise&stun&hold protection (it can be quite funny watching people chrage out of my bubble to suddenly stop dead in a hold or do an impression of a chav on a friday night. 
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The problem I've had with my sonic/elec is that once a team is bubbled you've not got much else to do but blast, which is fine eairly on.
However in the late 30's-40's defender damage output really falls off (reason being two fold, lower base damage at high lv and ever increaseing mob hp) which leaves my feeling a bit of a 5th wheel and not that helpfull. (esp when many people tend to be able to survive with the res buff at that stage)
One other thing I will note here is one of the reasons I went for elec is the pet, I can throw it out and let it shoot things while I bubble the team. usefull in the later levels as no one hold still/waits for you to bubble everyone so often have to do it in the middle of a fight. Just wish the pet would stick around longer.
If I wanted to go through it all again I think I'd go for sonic/archery, you don't have that much sonic recasting to do to be badly effected by the bow draw animation and it has the major bonus of a nova/big attack that doesn't flatturn your end causeing all you toggles to go down and stay down untill you can get your end back.
Oooh, wondered where the lil Panda had gone that I teamed with so long ago with Star Frost... or was it Shikome =/ cant remember, but all the same, glad you're having fun as your new defender.. Im working through the levels on my stalker at present but after than am gonna be making a defender I think..
Anywho, off-topic'd to say hi.. -Poofs-
Panda Pop is now Mouse Mat, a Sonic/Sonic Deffender, just incase anyone I was teaming with on union wondered where the Panda is
Empathy was fun, but started to feel like an empath joining a team was like giving whole team a labotomy, they seem to instantly up rep to max and think Heal Aura requires you to all be in different rooms :P (though did have some great groups too)
So rerolled Sonic/Sonic and wow so far totaly loving the set, buffing teams Resists and crashing mobs resists while blowing things away in most noisy way possible is far more fun, pluss ya gota love the "Ready Brek" effect..
Suprised there arn't alot more Sonics about tbh..