There's PvP in this game? 
Bots/Traps and Thugs/Traps are both are very good combos for PvE and PvP.
Protector bots heal, bubble, stun and debuff acc and dam, all lovely stuff to mix with similar trick in Traps. The Assault Bot blasts can do some -regen.
Bruiser has fury so can get a good damage buff going when you get him in close and the Arsonist can score some nice Scrouge attacks. Enforcers Leadership plus Force Field Generator gives Thugs a good defense.
I have one of each and both are lovely to play, the fun never stops 
So have one of both and enjoy 
hehe cool 
sounds like they are pretty even. tho robo got more funtools, and thugs got a little more SMASH! ? :P
and as all ppl go so crazy all the time with "EEK lethal and smash dmg is useless in highlvl" is it just another whinehype or is it the truth? i mean if i fought a dominator, my dmgtype count for BIP doesnt it? he dont got any defense anyway
Poison should be in there some-where, Thugs/Poison is an especially fine combination.
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and as all ppl go so crazy all the time with "EEK lethal and smash dmg is useless in highlvl" is it just another whinehype or is it the truth? i mean if i fought a dominator, my dmgtype count for BIP doesnt it? he dont got any defense anyway
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Truth or whinehype? Well, you might want to ask a merc/ MM about his opinion... but then again, perhaps you don't.
If it has eyes, you can blind it, if it has blood, you can make it bleed, if it has a mouth, you can make it scream.
Thugs are all about the "SMASHIE,SMASHIE!!!!"
As for the lethal/smashing damage I never noticed it slowing me down in the higher lvls
The higher your MM goes the more minions you end up under your belt cycling their chain of attacks, and by 32 you have both upgrades (I hope) and that means there's more attacks being cycled by more minions.
Sure some zap a little more power than others, but conversely I find my thugs fire more often than my bots. Plus with Thugs you get fire damage from your Chimp Arsonist..sure he might die, but he'll die in a blaze at least.
It's that bloody Bruiser that does me nut in. Go Little Rock GO!! *Little Rock runs in, stops just before the mob* ... *realisation kicks in* NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO--*HANDCLAP* And then he'll stand there waiting for it to cycle round, no matter how much I GoTo his dumb [censored].
That's when I decide never to equip him........until two missions later when I've forgotten.
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and as all ppl go so crazy all the time with "EEK lethal and smash dmg is useless in highlvl" is it just another whinehype or is it the truth? i mean if i fought a dominator, my dmgtype count for BIP doesnt it? he dont got any defense anyway
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Truth or whinehype? Well, you might want to ask a merc/ MM about his opinion... but then again, perhaps you don't.
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Dont.. just dont
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and as all ppl go so crazy all the time with "EEK lethal and smash dmg is useless in highlvl" is it just another whinehype or is it the truth? i mean if i fought a dominator, my dmgtype count for BIP doesnt it? he dont got any defense anyway
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Truth or whinehype? Well, you might want to ask a merc/ MM about his opinion... but then again, perhaps you don't.
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Dont.. just dont
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its not so bad with stuns holds as you can detoggle but your not going to be taking many melee chars down
love both bots and thugs I have a thugs/dark and found I could run on relentless from lvl 20.(not very good for pvp but can work)
I have a bots traps and a friend has a bots ff. Again found it easy to run on relentless from an early lvl. This can be a bit of a monster in pvp if you get the time to set up. \up side is the poison hold haven't found anything it can't hold this includes recluse himself. Down side is you have to set traps up and quite franklie a good pvp team will not allow this . Also with this its a very good idea to take tp foe and rhe stealth pool to get phase as the best way to defet an mm in pvp is to seperate you from your pets. which means someone with tp foe can tp you away from them. A way to counteract this is phase after tp and get back tom your pets or constantly eat orange insps or find a friendly kin to sb you. Another tack tick used against you is sniping I find that tping snipers on top of a couple of mines puts them off
Thx all for your replies helped a lot, aswell as the US guides.. I went for Robo/poision, Alien invader! XD
I must say it is more than saticfying.. the bots seem a little squishy but with a nice dmg output, and I just got my first protecter bot, which seems to me is equal pure pwnage xD I LOVE IT! ;D;D also posion is loco O_o it makes taking out red bosses a cake walk really, and it makes me feel as if im doing something instead of just standing there ^^
Heya.. I kinda fell inlove with the idea of being an evil mastermind, and especially the robos, and the thugs.. robo, i mean its freaking robots
and thugs, dual pistols.. come on 
anyways.. seemly after a VERY quick recon on the powers, i find that thugs do more dmg at the beginning at least, and the entire powerset seems more aggresive than zeh robo's BUT robo do a lot of energy dmg right? which is good for zap zap higher lvls... :O so what is the better really and why? 
thx
Ohh and for secondary powers i was thinking for Robo, forcefields (yes i like the concept) :P and for thugs, traps