Katana/Regen build


Aurrius

 

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Tell me, please, is this build any good?

Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1,30
http://www.honourableunited.org.uk/mhd.php

Aelmar Dawnbringer: Level 50 Magic Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Katana
Secondary Power Set: Regeneration
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Body Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Sting of the Wasp -- Dmg(A), Dmg(3), Dmg(5), Acc(7), Acc(9), RechRdx(50)
Level 1: Fast Healing -- Heal(A), Heal(46), Heal(48)
Level 2: Flashing Steel -- Dmg(A), Dmg(3), Dmg(5), Acc(7), Acc(9), RechRdx(23)
Level 4: Reconstruction -- Heal(A), Heal(11), Heal(11), RechRdx(13), RechRdx(31), RechRdx(31)
Level 6: Quick Recovery -- EndMod(A), EndMod(15), EndMod(23)
Level 8: Build Up -- RechRdx(A), RechRdx(39), RechRdx(39)
Level 10: Dull Pain -- Heal(A), Heal(13), Heal(17), RechRdx(17), RechRdx(34), RechRdx(36)
Level 12: Air Superiority -- Acc(A)
Level 14: Fly -- Flight(A), Flight(15), Flight(21)
Level 16: Integration -- EndRdx(A), EndRdx(37), Heal(37), Heal(37), Heal(45)
Level 18: The Lotus Drops -- Dmg(A), Dmg(19), Dmg(19), Acc(21), Acc(36), RechRdx(36)
Level 20: Swift -- Flight(A)
Level 22: Health -- Heal(A), Heal(48), Heal(48)
Level 24: Stamina -- EndMod(A), EndMod(25), EndMod(25)
Level 26: Soaring Dragon -- Dmg(A), Dmg(27), Dmg(27), Acc(29), Acc(29), RechRdx(31)
Level 28: Instant Healing -- RechRdx(A), RechRdx(40), RechRdx(40)
Level 30: Divine Avalanche -- DefBuff(A), DefBuff(43), DefBuff(45), Acc(45), Acc(46), RechRdx(46)
Level 32: Golden Dragonfly -- Dmg(A), Dmg(33), Dmg(33), Acc(33), Acc(34), RechRdx(34)
Level 35: Hasten -- RechRdx(A), RechRdx(39), RechRdx(40)
Level 38: Revive -- RechRdx(A)
Level 41: Focused Accuracy -- EndRdx(A), EndRdx(42), EndRdx(42), ToHit(42), ToHit(43), ToHit(43)
Level 44: Assault -- EndRdx(A), EndRdx(50), EndRdx(50)
Level 47: Conserve Power -- RechRdx(A)
Level 49: Hurdle -- Jump(A)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Acc(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Run(A)
Level 2: Rest -- RechRdx(A)
Level 1: Critical Hit
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Looks fine to me, although early on not having many attacks could become a major pain in the [censored]. Personally I would prefer to move Divine Avalance earlier or consider getting Gambler's Cut and respeccing it out in the late 20s.


 

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That's exactly what I was afraid of. Though I do think I'll manage with Sting of the Wasp, Flashing Steel, Air Superiority, Apprentice Charm and Ghost-Slaying Axe...


 

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Tell me, please, is this build any good?

&lt;QR&gt; It doesn't look good to me.


He will honor his words; he will definitely carry out his actions. What he promises he will fulfill. He does not care about his bodily self, putting his life and death aside to come forward for another's troubled besiegement. He does not boast about his ability, or shamelessly extol his own virtues. - Sima Qian.

 

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The build looks fine to me with only a couple slot distribution problems.

Assault for a Regen only needs the default slot for EndRed since you have Quick Recovery and Stamina so a couple of those slots can go elsewhere.

Fly i think caps its speed with 2 SO's but since you have a Flight enhancer in Swift it will also only need the default slot like Assualt so those slots can go elsewhere too.

Thats 4 slots you can put into the awesome Air Superiority now . Have fun!


@SinghMC

 

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&lt;QR&gt; It doesn't look good to me.

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Then be nice and tell me what's bad about it (except the colour)

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The build looks fine to me with only a couple slot distribution problems.
Assault for a Regen only needs the default slot for EndRed since you have Quick Recovery and Stamina so a couple of those slots can go elsewhere.

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I know that, but I had slots left...

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Fly i think caps its speed with 2 SO's but since you have a Flight enhancer in Swift it will also only need the default slot like Assualt so those slots can go elsewhere too.

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According to Mids' it isn't at the cap yet.

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Thats 4 slots you can put into the awful Air Superiority now . Have fun!

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Fixed that for you


 

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you dont need hurdle at 49, so i recommend resilience. Its handy after a waky if revive is recharging as has stun protect and has some +res. And because its auto you dont have to worry about it. Beats jumping slightly higher (you do have fly for that) anyway :P


 

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This is more like what I'd go for:

Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1,30
http://www.honourableunited.org.uk/mhd.php

Aelmar Dawnbringer: Level 50 Magic Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Katana
Secondary Power Set: Regeneration
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Body Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Sting of the Wasp -- Dmg(A), Dmg(3), Dmg(5), Acc(7), Acc(9), RechRdx(50)
Level 1: Fast Healing -- Heal(A), Heal(46), Heal(48)
Level 2: Flashing Steel -- Dmg(A), Dmg(3), Dmg(5), Acc(7), Acc(9), RechRdx(23)
Level 4: Reconstruction -- Heal(A), Heal(11), Heal(11), RechRdx(13), RechRdx(31), RechRdx(31)
Level 6: Quick Recovery -- EndMod(A), EndMod(15), EndMod(23)
Level 8: Divine Avalanche -- RechRdx(A), Acc(19), Acc(21), DefBuff(36), DefBuff(39), DefBuff(39)
Level 10: Dull Pain -- Heal(A), Heal(13), Heal(17), RechRdx(17), RechRdx(34), RechRdx(36)
Level 12: Air Superiority -- Acc(A)
Level 14: Fly -- Flight(A), Flight(15), Flight(21)
Level 16: Integration -- EndRdx(A), EndRdx(37), Heal(37), Heal(37), Heal(45)
Level 18: Build Up -- RechRdx(A), RechRdx(19), RechRdx(36)
Level 20: Swift -- Flight(A)
Level 22: Health -- Heal(A), Heal(48), Heal(48)
Level 24: Stamina -- EndMod(A), EndMod(25), EndMod(25)
Level 26: Soaring Dragon -- Dmg(A), Dmg(27), Dmg(27), Acc(29), Acc(29), RechRdx(31)
Level 28: Instant Healing -- RechRdx(A), RechRdx(40), RechRdx(40)
Level 30: The Lotus Drops -- Dmg(A), Dmg(43), Dmg(45), Acc(45), Acc(46), RechRdx(46)
Level 32: Golden Dragonfly -- Dmg(A), Dmg(33), Dmg(33), Acc(33), Acc(34), RechRdx(34)
Level 35: Hasten -- RechRdx(A), RechRdx(39), RechRdx(40)
Level 38: Moment of Glory -- DefBuff(A)
Level 41: Focused Accuracy -- EndRdx(A), EndRdx(42), EndRdx(42), ToHit(42), ToHit(43), ToHit(43)
Level 44: Assault -- EndRdx(A), EndRdx(50)
Level 47: Conserve Power -- RechRdx(A), RechRdx(50)
Level 49: Resilience -- ResDam(A)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Acc(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Run(A)
Level 2: Rest -- RechRdx(A)
Level 1: Critical Hit
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- @DSorrow - alts on Union and Freedom mostly -
Currently playing as Castigation on Freedom

My Katana/Inv Guide

Anyone who doesn't take truth seriously in small matters cannot be trusted in large ones either. -Einstein

 

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Yeah Aurrius your right (not about Air Superiority!), Fly hasn't reached the cap yet. I discovered this whilst working on a different build and thought, "oh damn it, hope no one's read my post yet so i can edit it ".

All in all, the build's fine. Now level the sucker!


@SinghMC

 

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That's far too much EndRdx in Integration - even one slot is overkill in my opinion. Those slots would be better used in Instant Healing.

MoG already far surpasses the soft def cap out of the box, so that DefBuff is useless - either a DamRes or RechRdx would be much more useful in the base slot.


 

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you dont need hurdle at 49, so i recommend resilience

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I know. But Hurdle is for concept.
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Yeah Aurrius your right

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Aren't I always?
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All in all, the build's fine. Now level the sucker!

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Yay!
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That's far too much EndRdx in Integration - even one slot is overkill in my opinion. Those slots would be better used in Instant Healing.

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Instant Healing? I'm not sure if a little more regeneration (and it really is a little) will matter that much...
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MoG already far surpasses the soft def cap out of the box, so that DefBuff is useless - either a DamRes or RechRdx would be much more useful in the base slot.

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MoG? MoG? What's that?


 

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Instant Healing? I'm not sure if a little more regeneration (and it really is a little) will matter that much...

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I wouldn't call an extra 190% regen "a little". Personally I like to have as much as possible and I think that those slots are worth it - definitely much more than those in Integration in DSorrow's build.

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MoG? MoG? What's that?

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MoG is a decent power which, in the hands of a good player who is aware of it's drawbacks, can be extremely useful. Next!


 

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I wouldn't call an extra 190% regen "a little". Personally I like to have as much as possible and I think that those slots are worth it - definitely much more than those in Integration in DSorrow's build.

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You're right. You always are.
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MoG is a decent power which, in the hands of a good player who is aware of it's drawbacks, can be extremely useful. Next!

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You're right, I know. I just don't like it


 

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I thought the slotting in integration "interesting" and thought the slotting in air sup "lacking" mainly. If Air sup is used a lot and I do know that it is a popular power then slot it. I don't care about the end drain on anything but foc acc slot it. Foc Acc to recharge or not that is the question. Whilst having it on my scrapper I turned it on and off when necessary and unnecessary and its much better used that way.


He will honor his words; he will definitely carry out his actions. What he promises he will fulfill. He does not care about his bodily self, putting his life and death aside to come forward for another's troubled besiegement. He does not boast about his ability, or shamelessly extol his own virtues. - Sima Qian.

 

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As a /Regen with Stamina and Quick Recovery fully slotted he is fully capable of keeping Focused Accuracy running permanently. No point fiddling with turning it off and on all the time unless you already have an Endurance hungry build.


 

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Besides, if he's got inf, he could slot FA with 3xCytoskeleton Exposure HO's and free 3 slots


 

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Besides, if he's got inf, he could slot FA with 3xCytoskeleton Exposure HO's and free 3 slots

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Although I think that's a little further along in the lifetime of this build.


 

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I wouldn't call an extra 190% regen "a little". Personally I like to have as much as possible and I think that those slots are worth it - definitely much more than those in Integration in DSorrow's build.

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Well you know, I do builds with IOs always in my mind, even if it's just a SO build. 5 slots in integration? That's 5/6 doctored wounds (quite a cheap set) for a 5% rech set bonus.


- @DSorrow - alts on Union and Freedom mostly -
Currently playing as Castigation on Freedom

My Katana/Inv Guide

Anyone who doesn't take truth seriously in small matters cannot be trusted in large ones either. -Einstein

 

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I wouldn't call an extra 190% regen "a little". Personally I like to have as much as possible and I think that those slots are worth it - definitely much more than those in Integration in DSorrow's build.

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Well you know, I do builds with IOs always in my mind, even if it's just a SO build. 5 slots in integration? That's 5/6 doctored wounds (quite a cheap set) for a 5% rech set bonus.

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What are you doing on a regen thread anyways?


 

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Hm, trying to ungimp regen?


- @DSorrow - alts on Union and Freedom mostly -
Currently playing as Castigation on Freedom

My Katana/Inv Guide

Anyone who doesn't take truth seriously in small matters cannot be trusted in large ones either. -Einstein

 

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As a /Regen with Stamina and Quick Recovery fully slotted he is fully capable of keeping Focused Accuracy running permanently. No point fiddling with turning it off and on all the time unless you already have an Endurance hungry build.

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End drain is 0,97 eps and end rec is 3,46 eps. The gap is 2,49 eps. The end per action time of an attack like Lotus Drops is 6,5 eps. 6,5 endcost per sec - 2,49 end rec per sec (toggles accounted for) is 4,01 eps loss. Golden dragon fly is 5,95. 5,95 - 2,49 = 3,36 eps lost. In the lowest end cost attack 6.03 with the longest action time you get 4,37/2,17 = 2,01 eps the gap is 2,49 and 2,49 - 2,01 = 0,48 'end gain' which is good. All the rest are in between though and likely have some end loss. So even so with this build, all toggles on, without stopping I will eventually lose end over several attack chains. Unless your end per second of every animation time meets end rec or it is less than end rec you will lose end when constantly attacking. When I play my SR scrapper I get to a point near the end of a whole mission where I am hitting conserve energy with end instead of rechg in attacks and quickness instead of QR. Looking at the gap between consecutive attack chain eps + toggles and end rec; if I played this build I would probably hit Conserve too. We will vary in mileage however mainly due to the pace we move at. The key point I was making is : you don't need foc acc on all the time. When fighting Rikti for example, its pretty much "Your a drone, on. Your not a drone, off". When doing that he may find the only reason to get conserve is maybe versus end drain in pve or pvp.

Aside from all that I had said:

"I don't care about the end drain on anything but foc acc, slot it".

Then referred to one of my scrapper who can't have QR. So in no way was I implying he needed to turn it on and off. Only he didn't need it on all the time.


He will honor his words; he will definitely carry out his actions. What he promises he will fulfill. He does not care about his bodily self, putting his life and death aside to come forward for another's troubled besiegement. He does not boast about his ability, or shamelessly extol his own virtues. - Sima Qian.

 

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*Looks at block of text and prays for all the little paragraphs gone to waste.*
So effectively your point is moot because you're not talking about a /regen in the first place?!?


 

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*Looks at block of text and prays for all the little paragraphs gone to waste.*
So effectively your point is moot because you're not talking about a /regen in the first place?!?

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No one needs foc acc on all the time in PVE with 2 accs in attacks. Often its overkill. I have 1 acc in all my blasts and less of a tohit buff on my ar/dev blaster and barely miss.

Edit: Although the -def quality of AR proves useful.


He will honor his words; he will definitely carry out his actions. What he promises he will fulfill. He does not care about his bodily self, putting his life and death aside to come forward for another's troubled besiegement. He does not boast about his ability, or shamelessly extol his own virtues. - Sima Qian.

 

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That's what rearranging enhancements is for, that 31.2% to hit means for a Katana/Broadsword scrapper you could drop an accuracy SO from all your attacks. That frees up slots for filling gaps elsewhere.
The only time you will need recharges slotted in Focused Accuracy is if you expect to turn it on and off frequently, which seems silly for a /Regen which can turn it one when he/she logs in and not have to worry about it again for the rest of the session. Even against Carnies my Bs/Regen doesn't need to micromanage the use of Focused Accuracy I just toggle FA on when I arrive in the mission and blitz my way through using the occasional CaB to keep my Endurance topped up. Maybe that's lazy, but I've yet to find it detrimental.


 

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I have yet to try dropping Accs in attacks when using foc acc and see the difference. Same with Rage on superstrength. Some tanks perma rage in pve and have 2 end slots in attacks instead of one making a end friendlier build overall I think. I'll always hate missing XD Even Knockout blow + foc acc + rage on a white minion sapper can miss with seemingly high frequency. I daren't try! (+per also helps in tanking).


He will honor his words; he will definitely carry out his actions. What he promises he will fulfill. He does not care about his bodily self, putting his life and death aside to come forward for another's troubled besiegement. He does not boast about his ability, or shamelessly extol his own virtues. - Sima Qian.