FF/psy


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im trying to build up a FF/psy defender for pvp (not the uber pvp events, just zonal fights).
Do any of you know if this will be a good combo and if so what pool powers i'll need? Havent planned out the finished build yet (only lvl 13 with it) but starting to wonder what powers i will need.
any help or advice will be thanked

Edit: Mostly for solo pvp i might add


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im trying to build up a FF/psy defender for pvp (not the uber pvp events, just zonal fights).
Do any of you know if this will be a good combo and if so what pool powers i'll need? Havent planned out the finished build yet (only lvl 13 with it) but starting to wonder what powers i will need.
any help or advice will be thanked

Edit: Mostly for solo pvp i might add

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I think you mixed up FF with Rad .

Seriously though, this could be a fairly decent support toon, but I would never in a million years consider it for Solo PVP.

For PVP you will most likely need from the FF pool: PFF, Deflection Shield, Insulation Shields, Detention Field, Dispersion Bubble and Force Bubble. I also take Force Bolt for the fun factor.

Oh yeah, Force Bubble hasn't worked properly since they "fixed" Hurricane a while back. I'm the only one that's been complaining about it, because I'm one of the very few that actually use it in PVP. I think it's just me and Dark Blasphemy in the EU at the moment.

on the Psy blast side: I would take Mental Blast, Subdue, TK blast and Will Domination. If you were something like a Rad, I would go maybe go for one more attack, but that's more of a solo toon compared to FF.

From the pools I take, Medicine(optional if you can survive without it), Leaping for movement and Acrobatics(not optional), Speed for hasten and movement and Fitness ofcourse.

I got Psy Epic for Telekinesis, mostly because I like to do multiple forms of repel and you don't really get much benefit from the other pools being a support toon.


 

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thanks for the reply anyway and yeah thats the reason i want to try FF/psy in pvp because im one of those people who like to throw something different into the mix.
Im guessing Repulsion Field isnt a good pvp tool then? It was the one power i thought would be good against the melee based toons. Even though most of them get repel resistance (iirc).
Aid self is a certain power choice for when i have to use PFF and possibly the leadership pool for that extra small % defence.
Actually yeah does dispersion bubble give enough defence to be noticeable?? (not against blasters with aim of course i learned that lesson with my SR scrapper )
Oh well, i WILL beat someone in sirens with it once i reach that lvl


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Im guessing Repulsion Field isnt a good pvp tool then? It was the one power i thought would be good against the melee based toons. Even though most of them get repel resistance (iirc).

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Check the sig below . Repulsion Field does knockback and most, if not all people in PVP will have knockback protection, so it's basically useless. Also, it's a major End drain. I used to use this power in Sirens Call as a way to prevent people from Assasin Striking me, but that doesn't work anymore as only damage attacks can interrupt AS nowadays.

You'll get more enjoyment out of Force Bolt as that is a ranged knockback.

Force Bubble is the one that does the actual repel and not that many toons have resistance to it. But then again, like I said before, it doesn't work as well as it used to and most people know how to speed through it. This wasn't possible in the days of I6 though. Back then it still did exactly what it says in the description and protected you from melee attacks. Then the devs changed the tickrate on Hurricane in PVP and somehow Force Bubble got the same treatment. Basically it doesn't tick fast enough now, to prevent someone from getting into melee range before getting repelled. So anyone that can move above normal run speed can just hit you when they feel like it.

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Aid self is a certain power choice for when i have to use PFF and possibly the leadership pool for that extra small % defence.

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I don't think you'll have the endurance to run a leadership toggle, and even if you could it wouldn't help much. It's probably more efficient to slot one of those Steadfast global defense IO's. It does almost the same buff, but it doesn't drain any endurance. It will save you slots and a powerchoice.

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Actually yeah does dispersion bubble give enough defence to be noticeable?? (not against blasters with aim of course i learned that lesson with my SR scrapper )
Oh well, i WILL beat someone in sirens with it once i reach that lvl

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Dispersion bubble can be a quite nice defense buff, if you slot for it. Especially on a defender. You'll probably get like a +15% defense buff out of it. If you stack that with Combat Jumping and perhaps a Steadfast +3% global defense, you'll hit 20% fairly easily. This will give some people some problems to hit you, but not too much. You'll still want to focus on Personal Force Field for your survivability. I like slotting that for both defense and a bit of recharge. It's up whenever I need.


 

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Oh yeah, Force Bubble hasn't worked properly since they "fixed" Hurricane a while back. I'm the only one that's been complaining about it, because I'm one of the very few that actually use it in PVP. I think it's just me and Dark Blasphemy in the EU at the moment.

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Indeed it hasn't. Besides of the odd back that attracts people insted of repelling it (not nice vs /em, I can tell you), everybody andhis mother can get now into melee range thru FB, and even stack a couple of hits before being pushed away if he comes running with ss from a distance. Since /ff is mostly about pff (can be hit thru with ease now with IOs), detention field (nerfed till oblivion) and force bubble (see above), I can't say it's on par with the other sets now, really


 

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reroll rad


50s
controllers: Ill rad , grav rad, fire kin, ice kin
blaster: ice em
scrapper: spines sr

 

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Oh yeah, Force Bubble hasn't worked properly since they "fixed" Hurricane a while back. I'm the only one that's been complaining about it, because I'm one of the very few that actually use it in PVP. I think it's just me and Dark Blasphemy in the EU at the moment.

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Indeed it hasn't. Besides of the odd back that attracts people insted of repelling it (not nice vs /em, I can tell you), everybody andhis mother can get now into melee range thru FB, and even stack a couple of hits before being pushed away if he comes running with ss from a distance. Since /ff is mostly about pff (can be hit thru with ease now with IOs), detention field (nerfed till oblivion) and force bubble (see above), I can't say it's on par with the other sets now, really

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This is why me and Dark Blasphemy have hatched a cunning plan that involves kidnapping Castle, a big sack and some rabid badgers. It's only a matter of time before we get these things fixed.

At least we still have the "awesome" defense buffs I guess


 

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Oh yeah, Force Bubble hasn't worked properly since they "fixed" Hurricane a while back. I'm the only one that's been complaining about it, because I'm one of the very few that actually use it in PVP. I think it's just me and Dark Blasphemy in the EU at the moment.


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*ahem*

I've been using force bubble ever since arena came out on my ill/ff. And yeah, indeed it is broken. It's not funny that once you thought you were fairly safe inside from melee toons, only to be proven wrong by everybody just walking through it with ease. It used to be only possible by having just the right amount of momentum with SS (or having some form of repel resist obviously). Though now even people with fly manage to just fly through it, its well annoying i can tell ya.


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Oh yeah, Force Bubble hasn't worked properly since they "fixed" Hurricane a while back. I'm the only one that's been complaining about it, because I'm one of the very few that actually use it in PVP. I think it's just me and Dark Blasphemy in the EU at the moment.


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*ahem*

I've been using force bubble ever since arena came out on my ill/ff. And yeah, indeed it is broken. It's not funny that once you thought you were fairly safe inside from melee toons, only to be proven wrong by everybody just walking through it with ease. It used to be only possible by having just the right amount of momentum with SS (or having some form of repel resist obviously). Though now even people with fly manage to just fly through it, its well annoying i can tell ya.

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we should form a union