Okay, the way I see it, ask at the start if anyone DOESN'T want SB. Keep everyone who does SBed. Believe me, I would take on a kin defender to my team if they kept us SBed and nothing else (Though it wouldn't be as good as a real kin, I do LOVE SB!). Whilst healing isn't the purpose of kin, I do see that situational dilemma. I mean, if people needed the heals from it, and it kept people alive, that's good, as kin doesn't get much decent team damage mitigation (until Fulcrum that is, woo for AoE dam debuff!).
Fighting +4s/+5s though... I really do think that you should've considered a sidekick. I mean, I know you are probably itching to get to 38 and beyond, but you just aren't going to contribute as much as you can when you con that low. Anyway, a kin controller does have good accuracy on some of the stuff that needs to hit. You have a natural slight bonus to hit with transfusion, Block of Ice and chilblain, so you really should have tried.
But generally, use ice slick quite alot if possible. You should have siphon speed, which will let you get some really decent recharge on Ice Slick on top of your SOs. I know Ice isn't big on AoE control, but Ice Slick definately is decent when it's up.
yeah i had all of these doing it ... the guy that could have SK'ed me threw a strop and refused ... so go figure and befoer then i sk'ed for one mish and the sk partner left
again go figure
nvm its a funneh thing
:P
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That is your problem right there. If people don't sidekick you and then accuse you of leaching... *sigh*
I assume you asked to be sidekicked? If so and you got no response, then following up with something like "grateful if someone could sidekick me, since most of my buffs/debuffs need to hit for me to help the team" might have been needed.
Otherwise I guess you just had bad luck with your team - I have a level 50 dark blast/kinetics corruptor that when in teams mostly buffs/debuffs/heals, and have never been accused of leaching. Most people really appreciate those buffs and debuffs, although there are always a few who don't rate anything other than damage numbers (which is why I hope CoX never gets a damage meter). I guess unless it's a visible number above someone's head it isn't easy to see what is happening, but I know that *I* watch my buffs as well.
Don't let it get you down 
nah he just plain right refused to becoz he though i was leeching .... i think this is another case of SK no SK tbh some ppl just dont like ppl who are un SK'ed but there were several other things that went down which i havent mentioned that are not worth mentioning but the guy that could have sk'ed and didnt was a very judgemental <expetive>.
I just wish some ppl would realise there is more than one way to play a toon
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Well, there was a kin on team so someone was leeching ... the rest of the team 
Seriously, offer to sit a mission out and wait for them to come crawling back
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lol when i got kicked for saying someones comment was funneh they pretty much all died on an AV mish ... and guess what it was due to no spamming heals does make u wonder really
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Hehe, sounds like poetic justice 
Never heard of people refusing to sidekick because you would be leaching - makes more sense that someone who doesn't is leaching since they can't do much.
u got the wrong stick the only real SK i could Take was off of some1 who was refusing to SK me becoz he thought is was leeching when i was spamming the 2 Trans Ice Slick and Siphon PWr
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It amounts to the same thing - refusing to sidekick someone because you think they are leaching is counterproductive. If they are leaching, they get more xp when NOT sidekicked, thus a leacher would rather stay un-sidekicked. The only reason for them to sidekick is because they want to help the team more, which is precisely the thing a leacher is not interested in doing. So basically, you can not have been wanting to leach, because you actually wanted to be sidekicked.
oh well got Fulcrum Shift now time so some serious fun
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2 acc, 3 rech and relax, from now on, every other bugger on the team is leeching .
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Can anyone translate the first post? It was rather painful to read and now my eyes are bleeding 
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I think ya full of win!
In game the scrapper who is the most damaging, generates the most hate, is often more likely to drop first from having the most of the aggro and the least damaging is likely to be the last scrapper standing. Sometimes the "peoples champion" is the one laying on the floor but you have to understand that some people will never see that. Once your heals etc were gone they had to of realized exactly what it was you did.
I have looked and Guild Wars lately and can't believe how wonderful the henchman are. The game is designed to be played in a certain way and the henchmans AI play to it just as you'd expect as the game designers made it so. You go thru quest after quest doing exceedingly well until...
..you have joined a team..
..and everything is out of control.
Naturally so, as the game is being learned by the players. I'd love 7 henchman to take on the STF. I really would as they would be a great coordinated unit playing by design.
The journey of levelling up will often be a complete mess of injustices full of players not knowing/realizing the needs/assistance of others (*looks at anchor droppers intensely*).
Well anyway it doesn't matter who you are or what you can do. You will never please everyone. Which is why some of us flock to those that we are most like-minded with and some just use others for PL.
He will honor his words; he will definitely carry out his actions. What he promises he will fulfill. He does not care about his bodily self, putting his life and death aside to come forward for another's troubled besiegement. He does not boast about his ability, or shamelessly extol his own virtues. - Sima Qian.
I'm just plain baffled... asked for SK, but don't get one because you're a leacher, yet allowed to stay in the group getting more XP than if you were SK'd.
Pure madness.
Reminds me of a saying that usually makes it in to my signiture on most forums...
"Never argue with an Idiot. They'll drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience."
If someone's idiotic enough not to give you an SK, then just /shrug and enjoy the XP.
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My Grav/Kin is 27, and in quite a few 3-6 people groups I've been the only toon with a healing spell, so that role has fallen to me.
Often it took the blasters a few deaths to realise (despite me saying in /t) that if you wanted a heal you had to be near a mob. But in all cases eventually they realised it, and I started seeing them edge close to a mob when they were on half health, only to leap for joy as they are ploughed back up to full straight away.
Regardless, with SB buffing, Siphon speed and power and trans spamming (and keeping an eye out for Voidy's to hold as I always play with a Kheld friend) I don't have much time for highly visible 'controlling' but so far I haven't had a stupid whine about leaching.
Fair to say, anyone who does whine, won't be seeing the fun end of a SB anytime soon (or a heal or SP if I could manage it 
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I just leave teams that refuse to SK me. Especially with my Dark or Kins as they need to be able to hit to heal and debuff/buff. I hate feeling weak on a team. Especially when you know the difference you'd make if someone just SK'd you. In general I don't fight more than +3s anyway, its just too frustrating being so weak against them.
Someone refusing to SK you, whatever the reason, is an idiot and doesn't care about the team. Did he not realise that if you really wanted to leech then remaining unsked is much better for you XP-wise? (as Motion already pointed out, I just want to reenforce the point).
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Another thing was SB ..should a troller spam it or wait til someone asks for it
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If you're playing a Kin, everyone on the team should be SB'd for the majority of the time spent in combat - no exceptions. If anyone complains about having SB then they're a freak of nature and will have SB rammed down their throat until they re-educate themselves.
IMO, the only area where you have scope to be a little slack as a Controller is in keeping people ID'd, but even then I think you should make a point of keeping the other squishies ID'd against mez-heavy foes (especially if the squishy in question has de-mezzing powers).
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Right this arised last night a team though i was leeching when i wasnt .... The guys that could have sk'ed me didnt (go figure) I was with them all the time spamming the 2 Trans. (Thransfusion and Traference) yes the critters might have been +4/+5's and i do admit it looked like i was doing nothing ... but most of my heals and +end/+revoc (Transferance) were hitting and there was serveral time where i was brinning ppl on the edge of dying back into normallity. and when i was attacking hardly nething hit. JAck Frost was dying in 3 hits, the holds wer only hitting the odd on in a mass group then only power that was ne use was Ice Slick which i was using when i wasnt healing. Whats the point in wasting end when u know ur attacks aint gonna be ne use....
Another thing was SB ..should a troller spam it or wait til someone asks for it
Saying this though in was keeping the tank SB'ed as well as a Khel. I also specifically said if u want SB ask for it as i know some ppl dont like it... me included.
So so Kinetic Controller get a hard time til they reach Fulcrum Shift
In my eyes after this incident and the incident which happened last time i did a kin troller they do.
and to some it up
Just becoz someone isnt attacking doesnt mean there not doing nethign
Kinetics have a very gd heal if slotted and also have a quicker +end/+ (minor) recov than an empath's RA.
Also Siphon Power can be used more than a Fort
so why do ppl think a healing Kinetic is leeching tbh it simple and it boils down to 2 things
They are not an Empath or a Kin Fender.
(I know this is more of a moan but its true)
(The really funneh thing was my transfusion was hitting more and with more heal score than another kin +3 on me)
Ne comments good or bad im open to both
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