I aint using a flat panel. I got a feeling my hz/res aint working for CoX, will try some things out.
K and S
This just isnt working, not for any reason it seems, other than its chosen not to. Those things didnt seem to do much at all. Im not being an idiot, I am using the right drivers etc. The only other thing I can think of is uninstalling.. But it defies sense, because it worked without these ATI 7.4's. Just with borked graphics.
Shall I reel off a full DXDiag assement thing? Will show specs etc in more detail than I know about.. 
S and K
EDIT: As promised. I deleted some thing to save space and for ease of reading, if you need them please ask.
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System Information
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Time of this report: 6/25/2007, 14:29:04
Machine name: ARIES
Operating System: Windows Vista Ultimate (6.0, Build 6000) (6000.vista_rtm.061101-2205)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: n/a
System Model: n/a
BIOS: Award Modular BIOS v6.0
Processor: AMD Athlon(TM) XP 3000+, ~2.2GHz
Memory: 1022MB RAM
Page File: 603MB used, 1697MB available
Windows Dir: C:\Windows
DirectX Version: DirectX 10
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
DxDiag Version: 6.00.6000.16386 32bit Unicode
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DxDiag Notes
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Display Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
Input Tab: No problems found.
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DirectX Debug Levels
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Direct3D: 0/4 (retail)
DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (retail)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (retail)
DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow: 0/6 (retail)
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Display Devices
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Card name: RADEON 9600 SERIES
Manufacturer: ATI Technologies Inc.
Chip type: ATI Radeon Graphics Processor AGP (0x4150)
DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz)
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4150&SUBSYS_010118BC &REV_00
Display Memory: 255 MB
Dedicated Memory: 127 MB
Shared Memory: 127 MB
Current Mode: 1280 x 960 (32 bit) (85Hz)
Monitor: Generic PnP Monitor
Driver Name: atiumdag.dll,atiumdva.dat,atitmmxx.dll
Driver Version: 7.14.0010.0489 (English)
DDI Version: 9Ex
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 3/15/2007 02:42:49, 2759168 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
WHQL Date Stamp:
Device Identifier: {D7B71EE2-0210-11CF-E57A-0B21A1C2CA35}
Vendor ID: 0x1002
Device ID: 0x4150
SubSys ID: 0x010118BC
Revision ID: 0x0000
Revision ID: 0x0000
Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_A ModeMPEG2_C
Deinterlace Caps: {6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
{5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY
{6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,UYVY) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,UYVY) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
{5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,UYVY) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY
{3C5323C1-6FB7-44F5-9081-056BF2EE449D}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,2) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{552C0DAD-CCBC-420B-83C8-74943CF9F1A6}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,2) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
{5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY
DDraw Status: Enabled
D3D Status: Enabled
AGP Status: Enabled
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USB Devices
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+ USB Root Hub
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x1106, 0x3038
| Matching Device ID: usb\root_hub
| Service: usbhub
| Driver: usbhub.sys, 11/2/2006 09:55:21, 191488 bytes
| Driver: usbd.sys, 11/2/2006 09:55:00, 5888 bytes
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Disk & DVD/CD-ROM Drives
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Drive: C:
Free Space: 22.5 GB
Total Space: 39.2 GB
File System: NTFS
Model: Maxtor 6B160P0 ATA Device
Drive: D:
Free Space: 156.2 GB
Total Space: 156.3 GB
File System: NTFS
Model: Maxtor 6E040L0 ATA Device
Drive: E:
Model: JLMS XJ-HD166S ATA Device
Driver: c:\windows\system32\drivers\cdrom.sys, 6.00.6000.16386 (English), 11/2/2006 09:51:44, 67072 bytes
Drive: F:
Model: HL-DT-ST CD-RW GCE-8480B ATA Device
Driver: c:\windows\system32\drivers\cdrom.sys, 6.00.6000.16386 (English), 11/2/2006 09:51:44, 67072 bytes
Drive: G:
Model: SCSI DVD-ROM SCSI CdRom Device
Driver: c:\windows\system32\drivers\cdrom.sys, 6.00.6000.16386 (English), 11/2/2006 09:51:44, 67072 bytes
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System Devices
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Name: RADEON 9600 SERIES - Secondary
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4170&SUBSYS_010018BC& REV_00\4&2FCD0AE0&0&0108
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\atikmdag.sys, 7.01.0001.0622 (English), 3/15/2007 03:04:27, 2427392 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\ativcaxx.cpa, 8/23/2006 22:26:58, 328162 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\ativcaxx.vp, 8/23/2006 22:26:58, 929 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\ativvpxx.vp, 3/15/2007 03:32:41, 41248 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\ativpkxx.vp, 8/23/2006 22:26:56, 2096 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\ativokxx.vp, 8/23/2006 22:26:56, 2096 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\ativdkxx.vp, 8/23/2006 22:26:56, 2096 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\ati2erec.dll, 1.00.0000.0010 (English), 3/15/2007 02:08:45, 49152 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\atiumdag.dll, 7.14.0010.0489 (English), 3/15/2007 02:42:49, 2759168 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\atiumdva.dll, 7.14.0010.0148 (English), 3/15/2007 02:30:16, 2731008 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\atitmmxx.dll, 6.14.0011.0017 (English), 3/15/2007 02:54:56, 159744 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\atiicdxx.dat, 3/6/2007 23:04:53, 143676 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\atiumdva.dat, 3/15/2007 02:30:00, 3107788 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\Ati2evxx.exe, 6.14.0010.4163 (English), 3/15/2007 02:53:09, 569344 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\Ati2evxx.dll, 6.14.0010.4162 (English), 3/15/2007 02:54:13, 233472 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\atipdlxx.dll, 6.14.0010.2516 (English), 3/15/2007 02:54:44, 245760 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\Oemdspif.dll, 6.14.0001.0020 (English), 3/15/2007 02:54:34, 229376 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\ati2edxx.dll, 6.14.0010.2511 (English), 3/15/2007 02:54:23, 42496 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\ATIDEMGX.dll, 2.00.2629.37654 (English), 3/15/2007 02:55:09, 315392 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\atioglxx.dll, 6.14.0010.6465 (English), 3/15/2007 02:33:52, 7360512 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\atiogl.xml, 1/5/2007 23:21:26, 11441 bytes
Name: RADEON 9600 SERIES
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4150&SUBSYS_010118BC& REV_00\4&2FCD0AE0&0&0008
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\atikmdag.sys, 7.01.0001.0622 (English), 3/15/2007 03:04:27, 2427392 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\ativcaxx.cpa, 8/23/2006 22:26:58, 328162 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\ativcaxx.vp, 8/23/2006 22:26:58, 929 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\ativvpxx.vp, 3/15/2007 03:32:41, 41248 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\ativpkxx.vp, 8/23/2006 22:26:56, 2096 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\ativokxx.vp, 8/23/2006 22:26:56, 2096 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\ativdkxx.vp, 8/23/2006 22:26:56, 2096 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\ati2erec.dll, 1.00.0000.0010 (English), 3/15/2007 02:08:45, 49152 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\atiumdag.dll, 7.14.0010.0489 (English), 3/15/2007 02:42:49, 2759168 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\atiumdva.dll, 7.14.0010.0148 (English), 3/15/2007 02:30:16, 2731008 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\atitmmxx.dll, 6.14.0011.0017 (English), 3/15/2007 02:54:56, 159744 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\atiicdxx.dat, 3/6/2007 23:04:53, 143676 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\atiumdva.dat, 3/15/2007 02:30:00, 3107788 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\Ati2evxx.exe, 6.14.0010.4163 (English), 3/15/2007 02:53:09, 569344 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\Ati2evxx.dll, 6.14.0010.4162 (English), 3/15/2007 02:54:13, 233472 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\atipdlxx.dll, 6.14.0010.2516 (English), 3/15/2007 02:54:44, 245760 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\Oemdspif.dll, 6.14.0001.0020 (English), 3/15/2007 02:54:34, 229376 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\ati2edxx.dll, 6.14.0010.2511 (English), 3/15/2007 02:54:23, 42496 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\ATIDEMGX.dll, 2.00.2629.37654 (English), 3/15/2007 02:55:09, 315392 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\atioglxx.dll, 6.14.0010.6465 (English), 3/15/2007 02:33:52, 7360512 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\atiogl.xml, 1/5/2007 23:21:26, 11441 bytes
To be honest I have not got a clue what the majority of the DXdiag stuff gone on about (and I suspect I don't want to know). I don't know if support will be able to help you as they have folk who are experts at this sort of thing. I for some don't have a clue what's preventing you from entering the game now.
Hmm.. Have you installed DirectX9.0c on that machine yet? Although CoH is an OpenGL game, it DOES use DirectDraw for the interface, and possibly doesn't like DX10 (It's known to not be 100% backwards compatible). I can't be certain as the first thing I did was install DX9.0c on my system.
I recommend you download it from MS and install it, it won't harm Vista in the slightest and is in fact needed for some games.
@FloatingFatMan
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
A small query your saying youre not using a TFT monitor have you tried setting your desktop to the refresh rate your seeing, thats to say the 85Mhz
If the monitors an old one it may not have that refresh rate on it?
Other than that FFM the resident Vista Guru seems to have the other angles covered 
Yes, its defo working at 85hz, the game should support that right? I tried at 60hz and it didnt work either. This guy on the USA forums seems to have the same issue.
USA Boards
If anyone has a US account, could you pm him to find how he solved it? Or post a thread in their Tech section for me?
I am sure I am not the only one who thinks on paper this should be working.. I just dont know why its not.
Ill try setting res to match res again..
But I'll tell ya now it wont work..
K and S
/edit: Ok we tried matching the Res/Ref rates to the CoH ones via tweak CoH, hell we even lowered both value too see if it might work, yet still no luck.
We also tried with Omega drivers earlier, they worked, but gave the same borked brightness etc as the default drivers had given, think they were XP ones.
S and K
Have you tried Safe Mode yet? This will drop the game to minimum graphics settings and resolution. Also, have you tried installing DirectX9.0c yet?
@FloatingFatMan
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
Im pretty busy now till end of the week. But I will as soon as possible.
K and S
I have the exact same problem... with the borked graphics.. Didn't do the 'tweaks' to get stuck at the loading banner...
Interesting to see if a cure comes up...
Will do the DirectX 9.0-thing now... Will I have to reload # 10 after?
Well, the DX9-thing didn't work for me either... Was just an 'upgrade' of my current DirectX (10), so I don't know what good it did, really...
Anyway, isn't it time for the developers to fix this..?
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Anyway, isn't it time for the developers to fix this..?
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Unfortunately, CoH isn't supported in Vista so it's highly unlikely there will be any specific Vista patches.
@FloatingFatMan
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
Well, that was nice to know... And here I was buying a new computer just for this game.. haha... well, then. What a waste of money.. (The game, that is. The computer will come in handy in Wow or something similar then...)
Cheers!
FWIW, CoH works perfectly under Vista on my PC. Given it's a new one, are you sure you've downloaded the latest video drivers? The ones that come preinstalled are only basic ones. If it's an ATI card, the Catalyst 7.6's came out a few days ago.
@FloatingFatMan
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
Heya guys.
Back after a busy week.
Righto I recieved the following message from GG (thanks GG!).
Here's a PM I got about it:
"Judging from the thread on the Euro boards it looks like the person has not installing updated driver or they think they have installed but have reverted back to the old ones. Make sure all the drivers get uninstalled, make sure when he does that he is not connected to the internet so vista cant redownload more of the microsoft version of the drivers. He might want to do the uninstall from inside the device manager. I know with some hardware they give an option to delete any previous drivers so windows will have nothing to revert back to. Also the message about the drivers not being updated on login may or may not go away but should not be what determines what drivers are installed. Have him to check the date of the drivers on the hardware that is installed."
I am gonna try this now. How can I make sure that all previous drivers are uninstalled? Some people reported adware with Driver Cleaner so Im slightly suspicious. FFM are you using the new 7.4's?
If someone could provide me with a step by step guide to the above, I would be most most most grateful.
Thanks for the continued help.
Krunch/Savant
I was using the 7.4's up until earlier this week, when the 7.6's came out. These seem stable for me so far.
@FloatingFatMan
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
ok i am having some problems with the mouse problem on COH. i am running vista and can't get the mouse to work. i tried using the "C:\Program Files\City of Heroes\CohUpdater.exe" -compatiblecursors 1 thing and it seems to be making me play the american severs, how do i solve this?
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ok i am having some problems with the mouse problem on COH. i am running vista and can't get the mouse to work. i tried using the "C:\Program Files\City of Heroes\CohUpdater.exe" -compatiblecursors 1 thing and it seems to be making me play the american severs, how do i solve this?
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It should be
"c:\program files\City of Heroes\CohUpdater.EU.exe" -compatiblecursors 1
I think 
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If someone could provide me with a step by step guide to the above, I would be most most most grateful.
Thanks for the continued help.
Krunch/Savant
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Same here...
I have a Nvidia something, and when I downloaded the latest from their site the game actually said I had older routines than before... weird, huh?
Did this ever get sorted? I've just upgraded and now have a lovely fast PC with Vista...which is great, sadly I'm getting the "loading screen" crash too, tried all that was suggested to the OP but no success =( I get the loading screen with the taskbar still sitting there and then get a crash stating the problem is with ATIOGLXX.dll
@SkullFester
I'm not changing this signature until I'm proclaimed 'King of the World'.
I think your problems is the Hz - 85Hhz is (I think) applicable to a CRT monitor but not a flat panel one. Providing you are using a CRT then 85Hz for the Windows display should be fine. As for CoH try using TweakCoH to set your display (for test purposes only) to the bag standard default of 1024x768 and at the same refresh rate as your windows desktop.
Now if that does not work try going back into TweakCoH and take the tick out of "fullscreen" so you run the game in a window on the desktop - again just to prove it works.