the new style Hami is much smaller and spams heals on himself from what we can see in the screenshots.
Not sure if they changed the encounter or anything, but the last few times the controllers have taken him down, GM creatures in the crater that were minding their own business had just piled straight into the middle of the crater ( where most people do Hami-O swapshop and partying after the raid ) and proceeded to try and flatten everyone!
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Could it be you have griefers at your raids maybe?
P.S: Don't click the glowies when doing the respec trial...it'll make it harder!!!
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We have zero auto-GM Aggro on Defiant after a succesfull Raid.
Doesn't mean it doesn't happen on Union. Unless it's a very sneaky griefing session going on, then being piled on top of by 7 very ugly looking GMs after Hami pops speaks for itself!
Would it be harsh of me to suggest that m'learned friend on the previous page actually read the thread before chiming in with abuse in future? We do participate in the mito clearing (right until the end!) before we stand guard, and do rather well too, even if I do say so myself 
Well we thought that griefing might have been the case from the week before, so this week we intentionally kept an eye on player movement as well.
From the people I've spoken too I have no evidence of player involvement in the GM encounters at the end of Mito Clearing or after the Bud Drop. Personally I havn't ruled it out and will be monitoring future raids equally closely.
Regardless of the situation however, we do have regular GM encounters during the raids and I know from reading the raid thread on Defiant heroes that your "GM team" proved an unpopular idea.
Guess what though, this isn't defiant and the Perimeter Guard WILL be on hand for future raids. 
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Oh your raids are certainly comfortably succesful, having been on them I can say that quite easily.
But if you guys are getting GM aggro, it's almost certainly a player induced issue as opposed to an errant code change to "liven up" Hamidon.
As mentioned above, we've had no evidence to suggest that, but it's not been ruled out. We'll continue to monitor and intervene where nessecary to continue the comfotrable successes we have enjoyed so far
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if you believe that then you obviously haven't been to a Union raid in which case there is no need for you to post here. i have seen first hand 3 GMs running directly from the outskirts straight into the main group in the middle .. bug or not, it happens. And we (as well as the other Heroes) do a dam fine job of clearing the Mito's thank you so kindly keep your opinions to yourself.
the job of of managing raid tactics is left to the Raid leader .. we all know what our jobs are .. who holds Hami meens nothing to a scrapper as i have no part in that .. i take down Mito's then hold perimeter .. if people have a problem with that then fine.
/em feels safe knowing the Perimeter Guard is there, guarding his butt while leading the holding Phase!
Lets keep it civil guys, could be we have a very skilled griefer, could be a GM trying to liven up our weekly successes, no conclusive prooof currently.
either way, we'll keep an eye on things Lost
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If push comes to shove..
Idea: Section off a small part of the P-G, who might have Stealth or Invis, or anything to keep them out of the sight of the GMs at the time, and have them scout out at intervals during the Holding Phase and after [e.g.: Watchers].
So, if there are such things as "grievers" we can identify them, or as such start to fully confirm the existence of the "GM Revenge" march.
That in itself is a brilliant idea Raz!!
less chance of anyone drawing aggro accidentally, plus the benefit of increased scouting ability!
Definately looking for a few volounteers for this!!!
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The thing you'll want to keep an eye on is pretty hard sometimes, if someone like a tank has slotted Taunt Durations then can Taunt and be the other side of the bubble quite quickly, and easily, without anyone noticing they've pulled the much slower GM.
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There is no GM counter attacks, and you are all a bunch of n00bs if you think this is a more important task, than doing what you are supposed to. CLEARING MITOS.
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There's really no need for this. Please consider your posts more carefully in future. Thanks.
I take more offence to them not reading the proceeding posts about what the PG do as opposed to the misplaced term of n00b, but each to their own!
ta anyways Bridger, nice to see the proverbial Hammer coming down hehe
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did he add a hammer to his haxxed build to?!
...and I find it funny that you still believe there's a GM counterattack and refusing to read any of the replies disputing your ideas.
Nightbringer's words may have been harsh...can't say I disagree though.
I'll be there for tomorrows raid to see the allmighty and fantastically important perimeter guard in action.
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sigh...
as I said quite a few times already, we didn't see any player based aggro of the GM's. We havn't ruled it out though as it is still a possibility of the cause of the attacks. You talk about refusing to read posts, then totally skip a few yourself!
The Guard arent "fantasticially important" as you put it, but our controller group for the holding phase are, which is the primary task of the perimeter guard.
Defend them, whatever the cost to ourselves.
Now, ticking off aside, unfortunately I will be a tad late again tomorrow because of work, but I intend to be there as soon as possible.
Same setup as before chaps, although an even spread of guard members across teams might keep things smooth across the brawl phases!
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...and I find it funny that you still believe there's a GM counterattack and refusing to read any of the replies disputing your ideas.
Nightbringer's words may have been harsh...can't say I disagree though.
I'll be there for tomorrows raid to see the allmighty and fantastically important perimeter guard in action.
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I believe the possibility of a GM counterattack has already been stated as a rumour, could jsut be some skilled griefer or just plain bug.
secondly, perimeter tends to be established around the last mito, so no additional manpower is wasted for the clearing, this has the added benefit of ensuring that the scrappers and some tanks are doing something constructive during the holding phase, something they want to do or enjoy as opposed to standing round or worse, causing unnessecary lagg.
and nightbringers words were harsh, also based on an assumption which was pretty stupid, seeing as the perimeter is formed AFTER the mitos are down or when only one is left. Im sure you woulda known that though if you had been to one so it's ok.
Finaly got my scrapper to lvl 50 bs/regan prince alcuard.
But would the RPG rather me bring my kin for the perma heal/ end while your fighting the gm's or my scrapper?
dont mind which myself just what ever you think best.
Went really well tonight, no GMs got near us thanks to the guard
didnt spot any griefers either so thats brilliant
Sorry guys, I hope the GMs stayed away! My connection keeps bouncing me today so I had to give up after the raid so let me know how the aftermath went! Hope it's sorted by next week 
I thought I read somewhere about issue 9 and the new style Hami raid offering up some surprises or something else to keep people busy. Could it be that this is GM ambushes and this part has arrived early after a patch?
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