Looking For Necro/Dark Build

hellspawn_EU · 09-08-2006 05:54 AM

Hello
Ive been looking for a build guide for a Necromancy/dark Miasma MM but cant find a good one would anyone know where i could get one?
thanks
also looking for a Plant Control/Thorny Assault Dominator

MaXimillion_Zero · 09-08-2006 06:54 AM

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Exported from Ver: 1.7.6.0 of the CoH_CoV Character Builder
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Name:
Level: 50
Archetype: Mastermind
Primary: Necromancy
Secondary: Dark Miasma
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01) --> Zombie Horde==> Acc(1)Dmg(3)Dmg(3)Dmg(5)Acc(27)
01) --> Twilight Grasp==> Acc(1)Heal(11)Heal(17)Heal(25)Acc(31)TH_DeBuf(46)
02) --> Tar Patch==> Rechg(2)Rechg(15)Rechg(17)Slow(46)
04) --> Darkest Night==> EndRdx(4)EndRdx(5)TH_DeBuf(7)TH_DeBuf(7)TH_DeBuf(11)
06) --> Enchant Undead==> EndRdx(6)
08) --> Hasten==> Rechg(8)Rechg(9)Rechg(9)
10) --> Hurdle==> Jump(10)
12) --> Grave Knight==> Acc(12)Dmg(13)Dmg(13)Dmg(15)Acc(27)
14) --> Super Speed==> Run(14)Run(46)
16) --> Health==> Heal(16)
18) --> Soul Extraction==> Rechg(18)Rechg(19)Rechg(19)
20) --> Stamina==> EndMod(20)EndMod(21)EndMod(21)
22) --> Fearsome Stare==> Acc(22)Rechg(23)Rechg(23)Rechg(25)TH_DeBuf(31)Fear(33)
24) --> Recall Friend==> EndRdx(24)
26) --> Lich==> Acc(26)Fear(34)Hold(34)Fear(34)Hold(37)Hold(37)
28) --> Petrifying Gaze==> Acc(28)Hold(29)Hold(29)Hold(31)Rechg(33)Rechg(33)
30) --> Teleport==> Range(30)Range(40)Range(43)
32) --> Dark Empowerment==> EndRdx(32)
35) --> Shadow Fall==> EndRdx(35)EndRdx(36)DmgRes(36)DmgRes(36)DmgRes(37)
38) --> Dark Servant==> Rechg(38)Rechg(39)Rechg(39)TH_DeBuf(39)TH_DeBuf(40)Heal(40)
41) --> Night Fall==> Acc(41)Dmg(42)Dmg(42)Dmg(42)Rechg(43)Rechg(43)
44) --> Dark Embrace==> EndRdx(44)DmgRes(45)DmgRes(45)DmgRes(45)
47) --> Soul Storm==> Acc(47)Hold(48)Hold(48)Hold(48)Rechg(50)Rechg(50)
49) --> Provoke==> Acc(49)Rechg(50)
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Tac_Ops_Wolf · 09-13-2006 12:31 PM

build looks good apart from night fall and...PROVOKE!?

Try to fit in shadow fall and maybe something else that comes in handy.

MaXimillion_Zero · 09-13-2006 12:34 PM

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build looks good apart from night fall and...PROVOKE!?

Try to fit in shadow fall and maybe something else that comes in handy.

[/ QUOTE ]Shadow fall is in there already
Provoke is to gain full benefit from bodyguard mode.

Carnifax · 09-14-2006 08:29 AM

Does a Necro / Dark really need Haste? Or 2 Travel powers? Shadow Fall is taken very late too, I love it as a power, mainly for the AOE stealth it provides at the mo.

I'd also take Howling Twilight as a minion control & boss debuff I reckon (and because I love the animation).

Can Zombies take Dmg Resist enhances and what sort of effect do they have? Just wondering if theres a way to toughen the little guys up a bit directly.

MaXimillion_Zero · 09-14-2006 10:11 AM

Hasten is needed to keep dark servant perma, and helps overall effectiviness.
Two travel powers is just personal preference.
Howling twilight could be useful, but not fitted it in personally.
Shadow fall is late, it's either that, ghost or PG, personally I thougyht shadow fall was the one to take late.
No pet can be slotted to enhance their RES or DEF, not since beta. Only way to increase their survivability with slotting is +heal (for siphon/drain life) or -ToHit (for knights and lich).

The_Thorny_Devil · 09-14-2006 08:31 PM

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Exported from Ver: 1.7.6.0 of the CoH_CoV Character Builder
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Name:
Level: 50
Archetype: Mastermind
Primary: Necromancy
Secondary: Dark Miasma
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01) --> Zombie Horde==> Acc(1)Dmg(3)Dmg(3)Dmg(5)Acc(27)
01) --> Twilight Grasp==> Acc(1)Heal(11)Heal(17)Heal(25)Acc(31)TH_DeBuf(46)
02) --> Tar Patch==> Rechg(2)Rechg(15)Rechg(17)Slow(46)
04) --> Darkest Night==> EndRdx(4)EndRdx(5)TH_DeBuf(7)TH_DeBuf(7)TH_DeBuf(11)
06) --> Enchant Undead==> EndRdx(6)
08) --> Hasten==> Rechg(8)Rechg(9)Rechg(9)
10) --> Hurdle==> Jump(10)
12) --> Grave Knight==> Acc(12)Dmg(13)Dmg(13)Dmg(15)Acc(27)
14) --> Super Speed==> Run(14)Run(46)
16) --> Health==> Heal(16)
18) --> Soul Extraction==> Rechg(18)Rechg(19)Rechg(19)
20) --> Stamina==> EndMod(20)EndMod(21)EndMod(21)
22) --> Fearsome Stare==> Acc(22)Rechg(23)Rechg(23)Rechg(25)TH_DeBuf(31)Fear(33)
24) --> Recall Friend==> EndRdx(24)
26) --> Lich==> Acc(26)Fear(34)Hold(34)Fear(34)Hold(37)Hold(37)
28) --> Petrifying Gaze==> Acc(28)Hold(29)Hold(29)Hold(31)Rechg(33)Rechg(33)
30) --> Teleport==> Range(30)Range(40)Range(43)
32) --> Dark Empowerment==> EndRdx(32)
35) --> Shadow Fall==> EndRdx(35)EndRdx(36)DmgRes(36)DmgRes(36)DmgRes(37)
38) --> Dark Servant==> Rechg(38)Rechg(39)Rechg(39)TH_DeBuf(39)TH_DeBuf(40)Heal(40)
41) --> Night Fall==> Acc(41)Dmg(42)Dmg(42)Dmg(42)Rechg(43)Rechg(43)
44) --> Dark Embrace==> EndRdx(44)DmgRes(45)DmgRes(45)DmgRes(45)
47) --> Soul Storm==> Acc(47)Hold(48)Hold(48)Hold(48)Rechg(50)Rechg(50)
49) --> Provoke==> Acc(49)Rechg(50)
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If i was to go by this id use the slots taken by teleport and super speed to get combat jumping and super jump, sure it my not be as fast as SS and tp but you get an extra defence (against immob and all attacks) and a very fun travel power!

Cynic · 09-15-2006 09:46 AM

I need to remember to open this at home where I have my build.

I cant remember how I fitted Shadowfall in earlier than MaX now, but I know I did, and I have the leaping and speed combo not the TP and Speed one. I'm not taking provoke but am taking Howling Twighlight at 49, other than that there are quite a few simularities. My Lich has 3 fears and 2 holds cause I use the fear more myself and my PG gets slotted up later. My Soul Extraction currently has 4 slots and will have 6 in the end, but then my travel powers have none so I have a couple more to spare. I'm taking Soul Tentacles not Dark Embrace, but then I dont tank (hence not needing provoke) I stay back in a good cone possition to control instead.

"Well, they found my diary today.
They were appropriately appalled
at the discovery of the eight victims
They're now putting it all together.
Women wrapped in silk
with one leg missing
Eight legs, one body, silk,
spider, brilliant!"

Cynic · 09-15-2006 03:13 PM

OK finally remembered from home

01) --> Zombie Horde==> Acc(1) Acc(3) Dmg(3) Dmg(5) Dmg(5)
01) --> Twilight Grasp==> Acc(1) Rechg(19) Heal(31) Heal(34) Heal(34) Rechg(37)
02) --> Tar Patch==> Rechg(2) Rechg(46) Rechg(46)
04) --> Darkest Night==> EndRdx(4) TH_DeBuf(7) TH_DeBuf(7) TH_DeBuf(9) EndRdx(9)
06) --> Enchant Undead==> Rechg(6) EndRdx(46)
08) --> Hasten==> Rechg(8) Rechg(11) Rechg(11)
10) --> Hurdle==> Jump(10)
12) --> Grave Knight==> Acc(12) Acc(13) Dmg(13) Dmg(15) Dmg(15) Acc(37)
14) --> Super Speed==> Run(14)
16) --> Shadow Fall==> EndRdx(16) DmgRes(17) DmgRes(17) DmgRes(19) EndRdx(37)
18) --> Health==> Heal(18)
20) --> Stamina==> EndMod(20) EndMod(21) EndMod(21)
22) --> Fearsome Stare==> Acc(22) Fear(23) Fear(23) Fear(31) Rechg(33) Rechg(33)
24) --> Soul Extraction==> Acc(24) Rechg(25) Rechg(25) Rechg(29) Hold(43) Hold(43)
26) --> Lich==> Acc(26) Fear(27) Fear(27) Fear(29) Hold(31) Hold(33)
28) --> Petrifying Gaze==> Acc(28) Hold(34) Hold(36) Hold(36) Rechg(40) Rechg(43)
30) --> Combat Jumping==> Jump(30)
32) --> Dark Empowerment==> Rechg(32) EndRdx(36)
35) --> Super Jump==> Jump(35)
38) --> Dark Servant==> Acc(38) Rechg(39) Rechg(39) Rechg(39) Heal(40) Heal(40)
41) --> Night Fall==> Acc(41) Dmg(42) Dmg(42) Dmg(42)
44) --> Soul Tentacles==> Acc(44) Dmg(45) Dmg(45) Dmg(45) Rechg(50)
47) --> Soul Storm==> Acc(47) Hold(48) Hold(48) Hold(48) Rechg(50) Rechg(50)
49) --> Howling Twilight==> Rechg(49)

Mostly built to my preferences though, your millage may vary

"Well, they found my diary today.
They were appropriately appalled
at the discovery of the eight victims
They're now putting it all together.
Women wrapped in silk
with one leg missing
Eight legs, one body, silk,
spider, brilliant!"

Tac_Ops_Wolf · 09-15-2006 04:42 PM

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build looks good apart from night fall and...PROVOKE!?

Try to fit in shadow fall and maybe something else that comes in handy.

[/ QUOTE ]Shadow fall is in there already
Provoke is to gain full benefit from bodyguard mode.

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If you're necro/dark for PvP then you shouldn't really need provoke since your uber powers and uber minions will debuff him your opponent to hell.

And besides doesn't BG mode seem to decrease your minion's offensive potential.

MaXimillion_Zero · 09-15-2006 05:43 PM

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[ QUOTE ]
build looks good apart from night fall and...PROVOKE!?

Try to fit in shadow fall and maybe something else that comes in handy.

[/ QUOTE ]Shadow fall is in there already
Provoke is to gain full benefit from bodyguard mode.

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If you're necro/dark for PvP then you shouldn't really need provoke since your uber powers and uber minions will debuff him your opponent to hell.

And besides doesn't BG mode seem to decrease your minion's offensive potential.

[/ QUOTE ]First of all, novody said anything about PvP.
Second: Provoke is there so that foes attack you, and thus your henchmen will attack the foes, even in bodyguard mode, thus making BG very effective.