Not many Hand-coloured drawings.

I like art alot, and comic book artwork imspires me also, so i browse this section of the forum alot,i love most of the work posted, its amazing what can be done.

I just find, its vry rare you see a'pencil, paint, or ink etc coloured drawings around, I know photshop needs skill to be good at, but i find hand-coloured drawings alot more skillfull in my opinion, it would be great to see some more.

There are some good examples of hand-coloured work on these boards.

I would have to disagree with you that it takes less skill to digitally colour a piece of art. It's just a different discipline that's all. I can honestly say that the last piece that I have submitted on these boards would have taken me half the time to colour by hand. The key difference with using digital colour is flexibility. You decide that the skin colour needs a tweak after you've spent five hours masking and rendering? You can alter it - you don't have that flexibility with paint/pencils.

The application of masks and filters etc.. to obtain the desired result requires just as much creativity and technique in my opinion. If you don't have an appreciation of form, light and colour then it's not going to look good no matter how you apply it.

In closing, I think you have answered your own post though; you want more hand coloured work - get posting. I look forward to seeing any new art regardless of how it has been created.

I understand, as mcuh as i love work been done in photoshop, i just find, shaded with inks etc. more original because most of the marvel hero comics, were all done that way, i guess it just fits in with the super hero theme more, but thats my opinion and i cant tell someone how they should draw and colour a picture i suppose, but hey if most preffer digital enhanecing and colouring then so be it, it does look great, but i just wouldnt mind seing some varied work, oils, water colour, inks, etc.

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Exactly.

Photoshop is just a tool. Like a pencil. Like a brush. Like an eraser. Or even like a piece a cloth.

No more or less "skill" involved. It's only just a tool.

And as far as I rememeber, Image comics started using computer-aided colouring since Spawn. Jim Lee's art suffered from that in my eyes, if you compare his wrok from the X-MEN #1 to his Heroes Reborn work.

I understand what you're saying Coston. But check out Blackdove's work, for example. Most is 100% handdrawn...

You should give it a bash Coston =P
Get those artistic juices flowing =D

Photoshop is not the best progam for simulating old-world media like watercolour. If you are serious about professional results look at Corel's Painter IX.
Comparing the results you can achieve with this application next to Photoshop is like comparing a hot-hatch to a Ferrari.
Painter is THE application for digital artwork, it mimics old world media perfectly and has cutting edge stuff like painting wih flames and fur also.
For a good site demonstrating the quality of the work you can achieve with Painter look at Ryan Churchs' work - he is one of the senior conceptual artists at Industrial Light and Magic and worked on the StarWars Episode III art team along with Eric Tiemens and Iain McCaig.
This makes 'The art of StarWars Episode III Revenge of the Sith' a treasure trove of Digital painting and a source of constant inspiration whatever you made of the film, the concepts and paintings these guys produced have to be seen to be believed! - and the majority of the work was done in Painter IX.
I would recommend the purchase of a Wacom graphics tablet if you are going to spend any length of time on the artwork, the feeling and feedback you get from a pressure sensitive pen just cannot be compared to the 'removed sensation' you get when trying to do artwork with a mouse.
Also more importantly you will find the drawing easier on your wrist saving you from acheing RSI- symptoms.
The trickiest part is being able to draw naturally on-screen straight from the start - entirely digitally and comfortably using the screen as paper and really 'Feeling the screen' - a lot of artists use a mixture of jotting down on paper first and transferring it over to digital part way through, all i can say is that it will take time and practice. It took a long, long time before i was able to 'feel the screen' and ignore the fact that i was drawing 'through the screen' to the virtual paper beyond.
Takes some practice... but after a while, i think you will find the results will blow your mind!.


www.corel.com

www.ryanchurch.com

I can't put this without making what i wrote...reflect on what im about to say kind of thing, but i do alot of hand drawing colouring etc. i wouldnt mind photoshop, most people download it...but i think i will go with buying it, but ive heard its around £500 for the program AND i will need to buy a scanner, I hope its worth it, and not one of those kinds of programs that takes 9hours to figure ou where the brush tool is ;D lol

Watch this video of Hawk (artist of Apple geeks) colouring using photo shop (could be wrong) i think there is a hell of a lot of skill in colouring sill, as others have said, it's jsut how flexable you are with the digital medium.

In response to Mother;

After getting the digital bug, I will be looking into other software as soon as I can afford it. Photoshop is the first program I could get my mitts on so that's what I'm stuck with. I am intrigued about how good this painter must be (more buttons to learn!).

I had a good look at the Wacom site and I would love to get myself a nice big Intuo3 tablet but I just can't afford one at the moment - I'm stuck with a Trust 4200 - which to stick with your previous analogy is I'm sure like comparing a motorised scooter to an Aston Martin Vantage...

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They both have their + and - features.
Painter has one hell of an incredible paint stroke engine. Watch that watercolour "spill" on the canvas after your mouse/pen stroke, is quite amazing.

Photoshop is the most powerful image editor. It's that simple.

About tablets.. *droool*

Its a pitty those Cintiq 21UX tablets cost about £2,300, so with photoshop, you use the mouse to layer colours etc yes?

i don't use anything my self, having no thumbs at all (apprently) i suck big time, and don't have the displine to practice everyday.

You don't have to go for the top of the range hunny!- besides... i don't like the model shown, i tried it at a Design Expo and i find your hand get in the way of seeing what you are trying to draw onscreen - odd though as much as it simulates drawing on a pad - I prefer having the whole screen to view at once while i'm drawing.
By the way... Wacom tablets start at around £33.65 for a Wacom Penpartner A6. - but that really is a bit of a fiddly postage stamp size to be working with, save your pennies and sweetie money for a tablet with at least an A4 drawing area....should be about £250 - £300.

The A5 graphire I use is fine for the small space I have on my desk.

But one day... *drools over Cintiq*

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In response to Mother;

After getting the digital bug, I will be looking into other software as soon as I can afford it. Photoshop is the first program I could get my mitts on so that's what I'm stuck with. I am intrigued about how good this painter must be (more buttons to learn!).

I had a good look at the Wacom site and I would love to get myself a nice big Intuo3 tablet but I just can't afford one at the moment - I'm stuck with a Trust 4200 - which to stick with your previous analogy is I'm sure like comparing a motorised scooter to an Aston Martin Vantage...

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Have a look at the Ryan Church site dear, there is a link to download an old freebie version of Painter i think, version 5.5 if memory serves correct.
Regarding the cost of tablets... I sympathise, I had to save for ages to afford my tablet, i think i was unemployed at the time as well. Whats important is what you have works for you!, if you are comfortable with the trust and you can translate what is in your imagination without having technical difficulties...then that is all that matters! - I'm sure any tablet/pen combo would give a better feeling for drawing onscreen than a mouse.

So what would you gus suggest i should go for, i have no experience with these thing, but i have a talent for art, and i enjoy it, the Photoshop CS 2.0 Win + Wacom Intuos3 A4 Tablet is around £700, and if i saved untill xmas, and combined the money, i should be able to afford it, its A4 aswell, so a nice reasonable sze

I suggest you post your work!!! ^^

Lately I've been doing lot of non-photoshopped pics, pencil and now colored pencils (which are sooo fun ). I love to see different mediums and styles used in this board, from the very comic-style pictures to digital collages based on screenshots.

As for the skill involved, I think all medium's are challenging in their own way, and require that fabled "artistic eye" to make it look good (although, I also believe that the artistic eye is something that you learn and practice).

For me, I find it very hard to create certain "random" effects with photoshop (without using existing pattern and filtering it to the picture, just plain filter leaves the randomness still quite "clean" and orderly), while such thing is very easy to create with hand (watercolors, ink, whatever). And alternatively, getting the kind of clean smooth shading or lightning that is basic tool in photoshop is easy to mess up while working old-fashioned.

Tablet is really cool as well, personally I am very happy with my A5 size, A4 would be too big to handle easily I think (havent tried though). The other prog sounds interesting, have to check it out sometime. Thanks for tip!

Blackdove

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Ive done 1 drawing since i got some new paints, and thats anime based, so i could post that, but it wouldnt go very well in these forums i suppose, either that or i could PM you the link. i shall get some sketches done tonight based on my CoH heroes, and post them, thanks for the tips

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So what would you gus suggest i should go for, i have no experience with these thing, but i have a talent for art, and i enjoy it, the Photoshop CS 2.0 Win + Wacom Intuos3 A4 Tablet is around £700, and if i saved untill xmas, and combined the money, i should be able to afford it, its A4 aswell, so a nice reasonable sze

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I would recommend Painter IX over Photoshop anyday of the week for original artwork you can be proud of.
It wins on sheer quality of the replication of mediums from chalk pastels to watercolours to inks to pencils to markers to artists oils to gouache to digital ink to special effects to different papers to draw on, artists canvas to marker paper to stratchboard to.....*collapses through exhaustion.
Its really rather........err,...good!

Photoshop is THE application for image manipulation of bitmap images and altering existing images, and no-one is going to take that crown away from Adobe.

They can both do the others job..if a bit poorly.
But from what you describe in your original post i feel you would get most satisfaction and results from Corels' application.

>>>But from what you describe in your original post i feel you would get most satisfaction and results from Corels' application.
Ditto

>>>Ive done 1 drawing since i got some new paints, and thats anime based, so i could post that, but it wouldnt go very well in these forums
Got a Deviantartaccount?

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Actually, because of you Mother, I'm tempted to reopen Painter 9. Been a while since I used it now =P

Same here Swissy, haven't re-installed Painter 9 since I built this new system, although I have installed PS CS2 since for web graphics work.

They do have their pros & cons, but basically you can do pretty much any artwork bar natural media in PS. For a proper natural media look about your image Painter's the way to go.

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I like art alot, and comic book artwork imspires me also, so i browse this section of the forum alot,i love most of the work posted, its amazing what can be done.

I just find, its vry rare you see a'pencil, paint, or ink etc coloured drawings around, I know photshop needs skill to be good at, but i find hand-coloured drawings alot more skillfull in my opinion, it would be great to see some more.

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I did a pencil sketch a while back, I did post it before, but it's here

There's also a few not so good doodles in my scraps section!

I enjoy the manual approach, as what I've done so far in Photoshop/OpenCanvas just takes so long without a tablet :P