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sorry not writen constructivly but im totally fed up with support giving me the "we will pass it on to our Q and A department"
I think im trying to sum up how bad domination is in these areas and i dont see any point in making anything other than a toon with resistance to holds for these areas.
OK so your saying that people with specific PvP builds (IE the people in PvP areas) are making chracters that are good at resisting effects that would hurt them in PvP (holds) therefor making Dominators (who have low mag effeects) sort of useless?
So you want Dominators holds to be a higher mag in PvP specifically?
Whatever effect a power has it can be overcome by another power.
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Don't like Holds? Acrobatics.
Surprisingly enough the people who play PvP zones a lot tend to make their toons so that they are as imune to bad effects as possible.
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I think im trying to sum up how bad domination is in these areas and i dont see any point in making anything other than a toon with resistance to holds for these areas.
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You're obviously just inexperienced then. What you're saying is like a 15 year old whos never been in a car before saying "what's the point in anything but a Ferrari as they are teh fastestest".
That's not meant as a personal insult.
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Domination is still being tweaked for PVP. It should charge up much faster in PVP now and the training room currently has the following tweaks, which will be implemented soon:
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The Domination effect for Dominators now grants them some protection from most status effects for the duration of the effect.
Domination is now usable when the caster is under the effects of Hold, Stun, Fear or Sleep.
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Domination will give you Mez protection against pretty much every type of mez in the game and you will be able to use it like a break free.
Have you tried other squishy toons in the zones? They all tend to be a bit tougher to play, also, what lvl are you playing? My dominator didnt feel pvp ready till lvl 30, and still needs some more slots.
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No offence taken m8, its not that it inexperience (if the game was like BF2 or CoD2 then yes) i can see how in game like that it would be a factor but to watch stacked holds fail to even slow some one down a little (slotted 2 acc's 3 hold durations 1 recharge) with domination is crazy.
I think there is a serious issue with domination, ok i face the fact that res to holds is in shielded builds and i dont have a problem but from what i have seen it has no effect at all unless its used on a blaster (if they dont have enough to content with).
I thought that domintion (when rdy) was hard to resist and stacked would work but to having seen ppl walk through it with no effect everytime surely means theres something wrong.
Dont get me wrong guys its not the dominators its the domination thats the problem
I tested a Mind/Psi Dominator during the RV event and didn't have any trouble stacking holds to the point of stopping scrappers, especially with domination up.
I know of at least one dominator who can pop people out of granite (and does just fine in PvP).
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to watch stacked holds fail to even slow some one down a little (slotted 2 acc's 3 hold durations 1 recharge) with domination is crazy.
I think there is a serious issue with domination, ok i face the fact that res to holds is in shielded builds and i dont have a problem but from what i have seen it has no effect at all unless its used on a blaster (if they dont have enough to content with).
I thought that domintion (when rdy) was hard to resist and stacked would work but to having seen ppl walk through it with no effect everytime surely means theres something wrong.
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The thing with trying out fighting in the zones is that you may have very little information about what is going on with the person you are fighting, or in fact what is going on with your own powers.
In my own experience Domination is working to provide a significant boost to Hold and other magnitude for control powers. My guess about what is happening to you is that your targets may have some buffs in addition to their shields - for example, they are using Break Frees or Strength of Will inspirations, they are being buffed by Clear Mind, Increase Density, Am, Clarity, or even the Stimulant power from the Medicine Pool (anyone can take this power) all of which will increase mez resistance which will help Vs. Domination boosted Holds.
Even with Domination you need two successful Holds to hold a scrapper, if you take an Inv Tank or a Stone Tank you need to overcome a mez resist of 30+ I think - if they are running either UY and Unstoppable or Rooted and Granite which takes 4 or 5 Holds (can't remember exactly offhand) which is possible for a Dominator to do - just; if either of those tanks has a mez buff, you won't be able to Hold them solo but this seems to me to be reasonable - a single dominator should struggle Vs 2 hero toons if one of them is buffing the other, or a hero toon has to use inspirations to beat domination. This seems reasonable 'balance' to me.
So without knowing what was going on with your targets, it's difficult to make judgements about what is happening to your control powers even with Domination. Don't forget that your assault powers get a significant damage boost during domination - you now should be doing blaster level damage this can allow you to take out a melee toon even without a hold working.
There are a few toons which are very very hard to fight solo at high level with my dominator, the stand out for me would be Spines/SR. I can hardly hit with my assault powers (so won't build up Domination) and they do enough damage to kill me pretty quickly unless I do nothing but run. Other Dom types might do better since plant/thorns isn't very forgiving in PvP.
Domination does work in PvP, playing a Dominator is hard though you have to know when to fight and when to disengage, some fights are just unwinnable, some fights you will win every time, some are more interesting and even - keep playing!
Sorry, I gave up playing PVP with my dominator. I just can't handle it really and having my build centered on how it works best in PVE it sucks pretty much in PVP. I also can't understand really how anyone can talk about balancing, when I have a hard job doing anything useful in the PVP zones and getting hit for 480 krits (=960 damage, basically a one-hit) at the same time. Doesn't seem to be excessively balanced to me *shrug*.
ive done a fair bit of pvp on my dom and while i lose alot thnx to my mostly pve build and my mentality still being scrapperish, i found that its a good idea to build up dom before you enter the zone or find a small corner to buildit up in. oh and TK, very few people seem to know how to deal with it and even if they do its still an almighty power.
i dont play pvp much but jeez this is a total waste of time, i can stack holds on bosses, elite bosses, Heros in none pvp areas and go into a pvp areas and get my [censored] slapped so much for being a holder. I know ppl carry breakfrees but to be totally honest if u come up agaisnt a dominator then theres no need coz these guys are [censored]. As the balance heads more and more to the pvp areas then why not try and "balance" this up.
I know im gonna get slagged off for say this but i dont care this is a issue that needs to be balanced.