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The name of this game is hold Hamidon or we loose. The indicator that Hamidon is held is if he stops shooting at the tank.
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Not true anymore, remember one of the last patches? He has an attack he can use while held now (frickin' laser beams...) Dunno if it's a case of the attack being weaker, or something, so there may still be some visual cue for successful holds, but the tank WILL be getting hit.
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Not true anymore, remember one of the last patches? He has an attack he can use while held now (frickin' laser beams...) Dunno if it's a case of the attack being weaker, or something, so there may still be some visual cue for successful holds, but the tank WILL be getting hit.
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Its a case of xanthus being a lazy *******. We allready know this and the tank knows it. We will be using plights awesome tesla cage as indicator or some other elec.
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controllers: Ill rad , grav rad, fire kin, ice kin
blaster: ice em
scrapper: spines sr
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This one. We'll be using Tesla Cage as an indicator of him being held.
Nice Guide, looking forward to the next raid 
One other thing - would it be worthwhile having a couple of people running Tactics during the hold phase? Since most people will slot holds 3 Recharge/3 Hold Duration, they'll be missing 25% of the time at least. Chuck in Tactics, and we'll get more holds stacked with the same number of people... or would Tactics produce too much of a lag issue?
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One other thing - would it be worthwhile having a couple of people running Tactics during the hold phase? Since most people will slot holds 3 Recharge/3 Hold Duration, they'll be missing 25% of the time at least. Chuck in Tactics, and we'll get more holds stacked with the same number of people... or would Tactics produce too much of a lag issue?
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You will not need +Acc to hit Hamidon. So it's fine, 3Hold 3Recharge is fine.
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One other thing - would it be worthwhile having a couple of people running Tactics during the hold phase? Since most people will slot holds 3 Recharge/3 Hold Duration, they'll be missing 25% of the time at least. Chuck in Tactics, and we'll get more holds stacked with the same number of people... or would Tactics produce too much of a lag issue?
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You will not need +Acc to hit Hamidon. So it's fine, 3Hold 3Recharge is fine.
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Really? Because the amount I was missing on the Union raid the other day, I couldn't help thinking we could do with a few +Acc buffs...
If your in the tight hold group, the amount of AMs and SBs you get on you is enough to take you to the recharge cap, so I don't really think you need to worry about recharge SOs.
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If your in the tight hold group, the amount of AMs and SBs you get on you is enough to take you to the recharge cap, so I don't really think you need to worry about recharge SOs.
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Indeed.. I think tbh, lag/miss-depending, at least 1ACC/1REC/4HOLD shud nearly do it, as we want to keep him held as long as possible, considering as LDF said, with the number of buffs, and debuffs going you should be fine, a lil "extra" help from slotting just gives the holds an "edge" should the "always 5% chance to miss" ratio kicks in. ( or for some reason CoX konks out and does something weird. )
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One other thing - would it be worthwhile having a couple of people running Tactics during the hold phase? Since most people will slot holds 3 Recharge/3 Hold Duration, they'll be missing 25% of the time at least. Chuck in Tactics, and we'll get more holds stacked with the same number of people... or would Tactics produce too much of a lag issue?
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You will not need +Acc to hit Hamidon. So it's fine, 3Hold 3Recharge is fine.
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Really? Because the amount I was missing on the Union raid the other day, I couldn't help thinking we could do with a few +Acc buffs...
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How many RI's didja have on him? :P
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One other thing - would it be worthwhile having a couple of people running Tactics during the hold phase? Since most people will slot holds 3 Recharge/3 Hold Duration, they'll be missing 25% of the time at least. Chuck in Tactics, and we'll get more holds stacked with the same number of people... or would Tactics produce too much of a lag issue?
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You will not need +Acc to hit Hamidon. So it's fine, 3Hold 3Recharge is fine.
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Really? Because the amount I was missing on the Union raid the other day, I couldn't help thinking we could do with a few +Acc buffs...
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How many RI's didja have on him? :P
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Dunno, couldn't even see the bugger 
UPDATE! Archy has written the guide for PA droppers, and here it is!
Issue 7 "bugged" Hami PA drop guide by Archy
Since i7 hit we have had some issues with pets and since we were unprepared for this at our last attempt at Hamidon nobody could enter the jelly and so the raid had to be called off.
Generalissmo 2 and I have done some extensive testing in the Hive and here's what we found:
Your PAs will ALWAYS summon at the nearest "hard surface" to your PA summoning recticle, this basically means we can
pinpoint the exact positions to drop PAs and keep dropping them at that position throughout the entire raid.
This basically means: You have a mito 99 yards to your left, another one 100 yards to your right. Point your summoning recticle to your left and the PAs will land at the mito to your left and if you point it to your right they will summon to your right.
If you summon them on your own exact location they will summon to your left as that Mito is 1 yard closer to you than the other.
NOTE: As long as you're more than 40 yards in the air the PAs wont attack or run around after you if you move.
Tactics:
The PA team(s) will gather as usual at the Hive entrance in Eden. We will go in a bit earlier than we normally do.
When hovering over Hamidon we will begin finding locations for people to start dropping PAs to. Hope to get PAs spread
out all over the jelly. When we have people in position they will stay there and keep dropping at the same spot during
most of the raid; yes I know this a bit more boring than our old raids but I'm afraid the new changes demands it.
This means we wont have Perma PAs like on previous raids but we will try to get some flying kinetics to buff us in the air.
If this goes according to plan the spot you're covering with your PAs will eventually be cleared. If this should happen
you will tell your PA teamleader which most likely will be either Generalissimo 2 (as Righteous Bob) or me as Arch Nemesis and we will tell you what to do next. This will either be: Move to another section of the jelly and find a good spot or go into the jelly so the PAs will actually attack, follow you and get aggro.
Simple, eh?
Hello,
I have a scrapper, which i plan to get dark mastery as the epic, assuming i get him to level 45 in time, with the hold, would i be able to be involved in the hold phase? -angel eyes-
Thanks
@Albino Pyro
Clawed Man
Assuming I can make the raid, I'd like to volunteer to help SB the PA droppers - Have a kin with Fly, and I suspect that'll be more use than yet another empath!
DON'T eat muffins while I'm developing you.
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Cool and ta Wilf
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controllers: Ill rad , grav rad, fire kin, ice kin
blaster: ice em
scrapper: spines sr
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Sweet!!
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I have a scrapper, which i plan to get dark mastery as the epic, assuming i get him to level 45 in time, with the hold, would i be able to be involved in the hold phase? -angel eyes-
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It really depends on how many people we are in the holding group.
Basically controllers will have 1st priority in this. If Xanthus feels we could use more holders he will call for it over Request.
SingStar:
"Extremists LOVE to fish to get us annoyed so we break the forum rules."
CRACK68:
"The origin of life wasn't planned either, should all life be declared a bug and wiped out?"
Lionsbane:
"You know me.Ever the realist"
Mua ha ha i got a mention, my hold are teh m0st important one there1, i should be in scotland with marius, but i should also be running TS, if the usual thing happens i will be typing for Xan as he lags about the shop and leading a team in and out of the jelly as we pwn GMs who wander in/are griefed at us.
wuv jo0, cya dere kk
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Another Kin Defender stepping forward for SBing the PA droppers, if u need me, drop me a msg. @Funky see you all there [img]/uk/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Nice one....send me a tell @archy and I will set you up for the PA team(s)
SingStar:
"Extremists LOVE to fish to get us annoyed so we break the forum rules."
CRACK68:
"The origin of life wasn't planned either, should all life be declared a bug and wiped out?"
Lionsbane:
"You know me.Ever the realist"
I rewrote some of the last guide for i7 so I figured I'd stick the whole thing up here, including all the little tweaks we made after running a few raids.
, who I'll announce on the night.
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Preparation
-Raid Costume: NO aura's, NO cape, and as little detail as posible. We will check everyone and if you aren't wearing an auraless/capeless costume we will ask you to go to icon and change it. If you don't have enough money, one of us will be able to provide you with enough to change it.
-Holds. We arent asking you to loose your lvl 53 SOs or anything but please try to get 3 hold durations in all your holds. It just makes holding the big guy WAY easier.
-Bring awakens, just in case. Its a rare hamidon raid where people dont die. Honestly, if we get through a hamidon raid with no deaths at all I'll be extremely suprised.
Ok, we're all set to go! Now make your way to the Hive door in Eden at the time stated in the organization thread and follow the steps outlined below!
-If you are an illusion controller please send a tell to the person I announce who is in charge of the Phantom Army dropping team. They will explain how this works when the PA dropping team has enough members. If the team is full, we'll try and organize another one as you can never have enough PA. We'll let you know when one team is full, if we decide to form a second one.
-Teaming is up to you guys, but if your on a team with no players who have taken part in a hamidon raid before, send a tell to Xanthus and we will get an experienced player on your team.
-The only toggles you get to run in the hive are mez (status) protection and travelpowers. Hamidon does UNTYPED damage, which will hit straight through your shields no matter what AT and powersets you are. Not running your toggles will also reduce lag and ensure a smoother raid for everyone.
-If you have a slow computer we highly suggest you run in safe mode during the raid. You enter safe mode by quitting CoH and restarting the game. At the updater window you click Next -> then you get the screen where you agree to the EULA. Next to the I Agree button there is a small square and if you click that square the game will run in safe mode. Safe Mode forces CoH to run on the lowest settings possible, which should lessen lag for everybody.
-If you're still having lag problems, enter the options emnu and select "General". Scroll down until you find the "Display Player Names" option and switch it away from "Show Always". This is, unfortunately, the best you can do to reduce lag without buying a whole new computer.
- Make sure you can read the request channel. This is where you will receive your "orders" and hear explanations of the next phase. Only Xanthus is allowed to use this channel for the raid. If possible, move it to another tab so that you don't get caught up in the broadcast spam that is usually present at a hamidon raid. I may also create a global channel, details of which I'll go over on the night.
-The final step is to add the targetter to your friends list (/friend <name>
Ok, we're all set in teams! Wait for the order from Xanthus over request and then enter the hive!
Mito Clearing Phase
There is a small hill close to Hamidon nicknamed Cowards Hill or The Staging Platform. Make your way here to meet up with everyone else and prepare to start the raid. If you don't know where Cowards Hill is, chances are someone in your team does as they will have attended a hamidon raid before (assuming you followed the instructions earlier and got an experienced player on your team).
Once everyone is in place, we'll call for the PA to start containing the aggro from the Mitochondria surrounding Hamidon (I'll post more specific methods in a seperate guide within the next few days). Once the PA have the mito aggro, the Hamidon tank (Novocaine) will move into the jelly and get the aggro from Hamidon. Once we have everything under control, the next phase will begin.
This is where the targetter (who I'll announce on the night) comes in. We need to clear the Mitos surrounding Hamidon as quickly as possible, as they have a tendency to split into two if we do not do it fast enough. Your job is to attack his target and only his target. To do this, simply ensure that you have him targetted throughout the Mito clearing phase. Whenever you hit your attacks, they'll automatically hit the Mitochondrion he has targetted. We'll move around the blob taking down Mitos one by one. Those with a healing aura will try to keep a healing spam up so that death is minimal. All radation controllers and defenders should keep Enervating Field on the mito we are attacking as this will allow us to kill them faster and should speed this stage up with alot. If you have it, try and fire Lingering Radiation on the Mito as well, since that will lower its regeneration rate and speed up the clearing even more.
This should take around 30mins - 1 hours, depending on how well coordinated we are, so stay sharp and follow the orders on request to get things done as fast as possible.
Powers no to be used during the Mito clearing phase:
AoE or PBAoE attacks: Using these will pull extra aggro from other mitos onto the clearing group, which will cause many people to die. When they die, they aren't hitting stuff and so this phase will slow RIGHT down.
NO KINETICS POWERS except speed boost. While I know that it is tempting to slap a fulcrum shift down for the extra damge on everyone, Kinetics is by far the laggiest powerset in the game (to the point where it might even cause people to crash).
Any Pets: Pets tend to run off and aggro other Mitos. This is bad.
Taunt: The ONLY person using taunt inside the Hive should be the Hamidon tank. If you drop taunt, chances are you'll hit another two or three mitos as well as Hamidon himself. If you taunt hamidons aggro onto the Clearing group, we'll probably have a raid wipe and have to start from the beggining. Also, people really won't be pleased with you at all.
Hit Hamidon Phase
When all the Mito's are gone and the tank is still taunting away, everybody should run up and brawl Hamidon ONCE. This will make sure we all get a HO, even those not involved in the direct attacking of Hamidon.
Holding Hamidon Phase
For the rest of the raid we will only use Defenders, Blasters and Controllers. The rest of you are in charge of making bad jokes over broadcast to entertain us all while we repeatedly click our holds. Assuming you've brawled hamidon in the previous phase, you will still get a HO so don't worry, you won't be left out.
The name of this game is hold Hamidon or we loose. The indicator that Hamidon is held is if he stops shooting at the tank.
We all form up in a tight group at the opposite side of Hamidon from the tank team and start using our holds. If you power takes Hold Durations enhancements, its a hold. If it doesn't, it's not and shouldn't be used during this phase unless otherwise instructed. Those with Accelerate Metabolism should use it everytime it's recharged. Otherwise, people should be holds and powerboost only. HEAL SPAM IS NOT NEEDED AT THIS POINT
Powers to be used during this Phase:
Holds(of course)
Accelerate Metabolism, speed boost and adrenalin boost.
Singularity (The gravity pet)
Enervation field, when we call for it and not before.
(NB: We aren't using other pets because they cause far too much lag for extra help that they provide. Dark Servants spamming Twighlight Grasp often cause people to crash and Jack Frost just doesn't use his hold often enough to warrant being used.)
N0THING ELSE, everything else causes lag and slows down our progress or even worse can cause the server to crash.
The holds have enough damage to kill hamidon quite fast, so we won't use anything else.
If this doesn't work, we will call for around 8 scrappers to do the damage. If you're one of the eight, you'll know because I will have sent you a tell.
If you aren't, stay on the platform and keep making jokes. Without your jokes, the raid will SURELY fail. If 8 scrappers isn't enough, I'll call for more, again via tells. Please only watch the raid from the platform. I know it might be tempting to go down into the bubble to get a closer look, but don't. Every single person in that bubble adds up to more lag, so stay out.
If at some point hamidon comes under 50% of health and breaks free we loose. You'll know we've lost because you'll be dead, and there'll be an angry looking Yellow Mitochondrion where you were standing. There are different Mito spawn points but the general rule is that if he isn't held and is under 50% HP the raid fails. For this reason we will call for all the heroes that takes part in the holding phase to use vanguard at 55% indicated by Xanthus over request.
Hamidon has a nasty tendency of becomming invisible due to lag at raids. Don't worry, he hasn't disappeared and can still be attacked. If this happens, find a Singularity to target as they'll never lose target. If you can't find one, add Xanthus to your friends list, target him and type "/assist" into your chat window. Doing this will mean that you switch to his target, which will be his pet throughout the entire raid.
How holding hamidon works: Hamidon has a mag 99 shield, meaning we have to stack alot of holds on him. A typical boss takes two applications of a hold to get him held, Hamidon takes (my guess is 99 holds, but no-one actually knows) to hold. During this phase it is vitally important that you guys to stay sharp and keep an eye on the request channel for the order to drop Vanguard.
After a little while, Hamidon dies. We all get a HO, we go to Atlas and party.