Do you think that fire controll is overpowered?
By
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Posted on: 2006-06-30 08:41 in Controllers
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it's not [censored] but it isn't as good as the others controller sets.
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tell me why not?
-percep to hit debuff
stackable slow
Pretty fast hold animation
Targetable long range stun (great for taking out blasters toggles)
give it fear and its nice:P
(most people find bonfire pretty awesome 2 but I'm not a fan of it:P)
yaaay because people have cm from the empath so the -preception doesnt matter neither does most of ur hard controlling.
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yaaay because people have cm from the empath so the -preception doesnt matter neither does most of ur hard controlling.
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kill the empath....repeatedly 
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Nah its just controllers that are overpowered in the hands of a good player.
50s
controllers: Ill rad , grav rad, fire kin, ice kin
blaster: ice em
scrapper: spines sr
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yaaay because people have cm from the empath so the -preception doesnt matter neither does most of ur hard controlling.
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so by that logic, all controller sets are just as bad as each other, how does that make fire worse?
Some controller set have slows. Some have repel some have fear and so on 
. All can be worked around, but it's easiest to work around the control fire has.
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Some controller set have slows. Some have repel some have fear and so on . All can be worked around, but it's easiest to work around the control fire has.
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So basically you just disregard all the secondaries?
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we're talking about fire control not secondary power? And fire control has no secondary effect such as, ice -recharge and slow or gravity's - slow.
dont underesimate DoT, it also has -acc -perc -spd and knockback
Fire is not bad, but sets like Mind,Illusion and gravity are better imop.
In my opinion fire is good on damage but a wee lack of control. But the pets are pretty cool. Although like all controllers, they start a bit slow.
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(I'd say you'd have a hard time topping fire/kin in the 38-41 range though).
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I found fire/kin to be really powerful (for PvE) after 41, i.e. once you got your AoE attack to use with Fulcrum.
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at level 50 there is nothing more powerful than a fire/kin troller for pve, pvp fire is underpowered tho
fire cages and hot feet is the [censored] too
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Meh, depends. Don't get me wrong, fire/kin is awesome and if it's fire/kin/fire, nothing in the whole game comes close in killing speed, but soloing 8-man spawns can be tricky without perma-lockdown. Soloing AVs can be tough those days with /kin, as you have to fight them as +2s (Invincible) solo, they have 300% regen, and the *slight* damage boost they got is just enough to one-shot the imps sometimes. I'm not even sure fire/kin can solo a GM anymore (can they?).
To get as much xp as fast as possible, it's probably the best build, and once you get some support, it's perfect. But being the best in PvE is as much about soloing BIG things as getting much xp, IMO.
Overpowered ? Yes, but all controllers are overpowered really, not fire/kin alone. Hopefully, as long as most people (both devs and players) close their eyes about Containment and pretend a controller is only here to control/defend, the devs will think controllers are fine and balanced. 
fire can easily contain mobs altho fire/kin doesnt need to, i usually, due to lazyness, just run in and use fire cages and kill mobs without holding any of them but just by healing myself off them. but flashfire, fire cages and cinders is more than enough to control mobs if needed.
pre i7 i cud solo pretty much anything with a few exceptions. i duo'd lusca and many AVs and was easily able to solo GMs and monsters. since then i havent tried any AVs or GMs as they arent about when i go looking for them did have a go at kraken tho and it was impossible to solo since the changes (before they got nerfed after the regen increase), but then teamed with another troller and it went down very fast. may be able to solo since the nerfs tho but not sure...i will search for some GMs in the next few days and get back to u on solo ability since the nerf
and yes containment needs a big fat nerf
just tried solo'in babbage, cud dent the health a little, he was doing hardly any dmg to me and was very easy to keep imps alive but his regen rate was too high to solo, cud easily duo him tho
Remember, fire/kin does have -regen in transfusion, that's really helped me in my AV soloing, never tried a GM though 
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Remember, fire/kin does have -regen in transfusion, that's really helped me in my AV soloing, never tried a GM though
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indeed pre i7 i cud solo pretty much anything apart from lusca, since the regen changes in i7 i think its impossible for a kin to solo AVs or GMs, well definately GMs havent tried AVs since i7
I've soloed them since the fix, 300 regen still isn't too much. Just keep spamming FS+Siphon Power. The AV will loose most damage capacity, and your imps will have enough to keep going. And try to keep them SBed, or maybe IDed against some AVs Well, haven't done many, just one IIRC, not been on Burn Spirit lately, but still, he can do it
Main problem is alphas =/
it's not [censored] but it isn't as good as the others controller sets.