In a decent team Kinetics/Electric is so much fun.
But theres a few things that stopped me playing mine.
Soloing : You really suck at this. Far more than nearly any other AT. Ok at level 26 I got Transference and that helped a bit, but its so slow and boring soloing him
Lag : Healer + Lag is a bad thing. The last few weeks CoH has been... not unplayable but certainly delayed and I don't think its fair to the team that I might "spaz out" for 5/10 seconds at any time just as a Heal / ID is needed. Especially since Kinetics heal needs a target to bounce off and lag can really screw that up on you.
Last time I played him I got compliments on healing too. But they didn't see me shouting at the rubberbanding toon and trying desperately to bounce heals off guys who were actually dead / dying but I didn't realise.
Oh and thirdly, End Drain is useful again. Before that is was basically useless. Now its a nice side effect again.
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Soloing : You really suck at this. Far more than nearly any other AT. Ok at level 26 I got Transference and that helped a bit, but its so slow and boring soloing him
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I take this comment very personally, because it is sooo true :P.
But seriously Fulcrum Shift helps a little for soloing but not enough. I can get things to a stalemate and feel pretty safe but actually taking enemies down takes too long to be fun. My I5 build was a pretty good solo build, I had 6 slotted attacks and short circuit, but ED stopped this being practical. If I want to solo, I'll play a scrapper.
@Unthing ... Mostly on Union.
''Soloing : You really suck at this. Far more than nearly any other AT. Ok at level 26 I got Transference and that helped a bit, but its so slow and boring soloing him
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just 1 word..no
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just 1 word..no
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Hmmmm. Care to elaborate? No to what?
Are you basing that on the experiences of your Illusion / Kinetics? Because Illusion is superb for soloing post Level 18. Kin/Elec Defenders don't have the Deceives, holds & Pets to distract & disabled the mobs that any Illusionist has.
Although Unthing is right. Fulcrum Shift will make it a bit easier. But then you've another issue. At level 38 suddenly every Kinetics Controller can do every trick you can nearly as well. Plus they have Containment Damage too.
Is there life post 38 for Kinetics Defenders?
There's still the "mass hyp - FS - nuke" thing... too bad it's not up as often as Controller's fireball
Idk, I've tried to get into Kin/ defenders but I always come back to /kin trollers. Kin/ defenders are fun to play in teams, but /kin trollers are fun in team and solo. If only they'd raise defender damage... 
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I sure there is for me.
1. I have a 25% advantage on your powers over the Controllers powers for equal slotting.
2. I have probably spent at least 20-30% more slots on those powers than they have.
3. I can afford to spend more of my time being Kinetic ( because of 1 and 2 ) than they can because they have other things they are expected to do. Which means I can spend time doing my thing.
4. I have a secondary that is different to their primary.
@Unthing ... Mostly on Union.
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I sure there is for me.
1. I have a 25% advantage on your powers over the Controllers powers for equal slotting.
2. I have probably spent at least 20-30% more slots on those powers than they have.
3. I can afford to spend more of my time being Kinetic ( because of 1 and 2 ) than they can because they have other things they are expected to do. Which means I can spend time doing my thing.
4. I have a secondary that is different to their primary.
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Good points borne out well by the last two Illusion / kinetics Controllers I teamed with with my Fire/Rad controller. Had to beg and plead for every Speed Boost. And I know how annoying it is to get "SB Pls" every 2 minutes. But these guys just wouldn't buff me unless I sent two or three requests.
I can only agree on the fun inherent in Kin/. I'm only at level 11 so far, so Transfusion, Siphon Power and Siphon Speed were pretty much the only things I did apart from the occasional snipe-pull, but concentrating on buffing rather than damage-dealing was a welcome change from my other chars, and a gratifying experience at that. Slapping Siphon Speed on Sprint or Hover is very nice too, be it for crossing the Hollows or only for the wheeee! factor. 
Looking forward to the high-end buffs and to speed-siphoned Fly...
Young Goddess, Kin/Psi 11, Union
Kin will always be fun as long as you're able to get Fulcrum, SB, Siphon Speed, and Transference
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Looking forward to the high-end buffs and to speed-siphoned Fly...
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Combine that with speed-syphoned Superspeed and you are ready to "go".
If it has eyes, you can blind it, if it has blood, you can make it bleed, if it has a mouth, you can make it scream.
Combine that with speed-syphoned Superspeed and you are already gone
DON'T eat muffins while I'm developing you.
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''Soloing : You really suck at this. Far more than nearly any other AT. Ok at level 26 I got Transference and that helped a bit, but its so slow and boring soloing him
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just 1 word..no
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Hmmmm. Care to elaborate? No to what?
Are you basing that on the experiences of your Illusion / Kinetics? Because Illusion is superb for soloing post Level 18. Kin/Elec Defenders don't have the Deceives, holds & Pets to distract & disabled the mobs that any Illusionist has.
Although Unthing is right. Fulcrum Shift will make it a bit easier. But then you've another issue. At level 38 suddenly every Kinetics Controller can do every trick you can nearly as well. Plus they have Containment Damage too.
Is there life post 38 for Kinetics Defenders?
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I'm talking about kin/sonic kin/elec now tho
..elec has held btw?..and a somewhat weak kind of pets...great end drain?..its not the most damaging and takes some time buts its not bad for soloing at all..its a bit better for teams tho and for solo I would go the sonic way..but neither of em sucks for solo
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''Soloing : You really suck at this. Far more than nearly any other AT. Ok at level 26 I got Transference and that helped a bit, but its so slow and boring soloing him
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just 1 word..no
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Hmmmm. Care to elaborate? No to what?
Are you basing that on the experiences of your Illusion / Kinetics? Because Illusion is superb for soloing post Level 18. Kin/Elec Defenders don't have the Deceives, holds & Pets to distract & disabled the mobs that any Illusionist has.
Although Unthing is right. Fulcrum Shift will make it a bit easier. But then you've another issue. At level 38 suddenly every Kinetics Controller can do every trick you can nearly as well. Plus they have Containment Damage too.
Is there life post 38 for Kinetics Defenders?
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I'm talking about kin/sonic kin/elec now tho..elec has held btw?..and a somewhat weak kind of pets...great end drain?..its not the most damaging and takes some time buts its not bad for soloing at all..its a bit better for teams tho and for solo I would go the sonic way..but neither of em sucks for solo
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It's so slooooooow though. I mean it took me ages last night with Soloth to take out one orange boss solo at 26. I've never had a character take so long. And boring too. Poor Mr Streng had no Endurance so he just stood there with a confused look on his face as I tickled him with Snipes & Lightning Bolts.
So yeah, you can solo safely I agree but its so slow you do "suck" at it. And Kinetics is the offensive set!
Roll on Fulcrum Shift
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''Soloing : You really suck at this. Far more than nearly any other AT. Ok at level 26 I got Transference and that helped a bit, but its so slow and boring soloing him
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just 1 word..no
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Hmmmm. Care to elaborate? No to what?
Are you basing that on the experiences of your Illusion / Kinetics? Because Illusion is superb for soloing post Level 18. Kin/Elec Defenders don't have the Deceives, holds & Pets to distract & disabled the mobs that any Illusionist has.
Although Unthing is right. Fulcrum Shift will make it a bit easier. But then you've another issue. At level 38 suddenly every Kinetics Controller can do every trick you can nearly as well. Plus they have Containment Damage too.
Is there life post 38 for Kinetics Defenders?
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I'm talking about kin/sonic kin/elec now tho..elec has held btw?..and a somewhat weak kind of pets...great end drain?..its not the most damaging and takes some time buts its not bad for soloing at all..its a bit better for teams tho and for solo I would go the sonic way..but neither of em sucks for solo
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It's so slooooooow though. I mean it took me ages last night with Soloth to take out one orange boss solo at 26. I've never had a character take so long. And boring too. Poor Mr Streng had no Endurance so he just stood there with a confused look on his face as I tickled him with Snipes & Lightning Bolts.
So yeah, you can solo safely I agree but its so slow you do "suck" at it. And Kinetics is the offensive set!
Roll on Fulcrum Shift
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Even Fulcrum shift didn't make solo much better for me. My controller ( level 21 Mind/TA ) solos better than Booster. Short Circuit is good but I still get an alpha strike which means I'm still at risk. Not so for the controller who is almost as slow at taking out spawns he can have the whole spawn controlled before he starts taking much damage.
@Unthing ... Mostly on Union.
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Even Fulcrum shift didn't make solo much better for me. My controller ( level 21 Mind/TA ) solos better than Booster. Short Circuit is good but I still get an alpha strike which means I'm still at risk. Not so for the controller who is almost as slow at taking out spawns he can have the whole spawn controlled before he starts taking much damage.
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With Mind you can Sleep & confuse them which makes it much easier alright.
My level 32 Fire / Rad is just sick at soloing now, and has always been good at it.
Ditto my Illusion / Storm. Although I never had Deceive on her until about 2 weeks ago. If only I'd realised how excellent it is!
What makes it worse was I was LFT for about 30 mins with Soloth yesterday, hunting slowly in Croatoa so I wouldn't be in mish and sending Broadcasts (saying Kinetics defender lft too) and no teams a-going.
I think I'm gonna have to start being pro-active (god I hate that word. I sound like a marketing campaign for Flora) and sending nice tells to people currently in teams asking if they've room for a Kinetics defender.
Thats probably my biggest issue with the char. I need a team or really I'm not at anything. Once I have a team, even a duo with a scrapper or blaster, theres no stopping us.
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What makes it worse was I was LFT for about 30 mins with Soloth yesterday, hunting slowly in Croatoa so I wouldn't be in mish and sending Broadcasts (saying Kinetics defender lft too) and no teams a-going.
I think I'm gonna have to start being pro-active (god I hate that word. I sound like a marketing campaign for Flora) and sending nice tells to people currently in teams asking if they've room for a Kinetics defender.
Thats probably my biggest issue with the char. I need a team or really I'm not at anything. Once I have a team, even a duo with a scrapper or blaster, theres no stopping us.
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I have given up passively looking for teams with Booster. If I want to play him I log in, ask on Coalition, if there isn't a team I go straight to the search window and send a nice tell to the first teamed tank of the correct level range. I can't duo with Blaster / Scrappers, my playstyle is too aggro-magnetic.
However Booster always had to beg for teams from the teams onwards, unless he had current speed boost addicts.
@Unthing ... Mostly on Union.
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What makes it worse was I was LFT for about 30 mins with Soloth yesterday, hunting slowly in Croatoa so I wouldn't be in mish and sending Broadcasts (saying Kinetics defender lft too) and no teams a-going.
I think I'm gonna have to start being pro-active (god I hate that word. I sound like a marketing campaign for Flora) and sending nice tells to people currently in teams asking if they've room for a Kinetics defender.
Thats probably my biggest issue with the char. I need a team or really I'm not at anything. Once I have a team, even a duo with a scrapper or blaster, theres no stopping us.
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I have given up passively looking for teams with Booster. If I want to play him I log in, ask on Coalition, if there isn't a team I go straight to the search window and send a nice tell to the first teamed tank of the correct level range. I can't duo with Blaster / Scrappers, my playstyle is too aggro-magnetic.
However Booster always had to beg for teams from the teams onwards, unless he had current speed boost addicts.
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I would always have a kineticist in my team if I could no other powerset makes such a huge difference to every team.
thePhilosopher Martial Arts/Regen/Fire Scrapper
theRegulator Empathy/Energy/Soul Defender
Total Inertia Ice Blast/Kinetics/Psy Corruptor
Total Inferno Ice Blast/Thermal/Leviathan Corruptor
Agreed, if someone asked what sort of Defender we wanted on the team if there was only 1 space, Kinetics would be the one.
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@Miss Chief
Last night I felt like a bit of a change and logged in as Booster, my Kinetic / Electrical Blast defender.
So I got a blind invite ( pretty quickly too, he was a /DA scrapper and my invite message says about endurance buffs ) as I was on Looking for Missions, pretty soon we had a team of a scrapper, a tanker, a blaster and me.
I forgot how fun it was to run in just behind the tank and just try and stay alive by spamming Transfusion. It was awesome...
I got a complement on my healing from the tank, many thanks for speed boosts and in a rare downtime where the scrapper said Fulcrum Shift was the best power in the game, I told him what Transference does and why it was also great. I don't think many people notice that power they just assume that their full endurance is due to Speed Boost.
From an xp point of view it felt like power levelling.
I was trying to think why I ditched him last time, I think it was the lack of tanks. Sometimes with just scrappers I end up attracting just a bit too much aggro ( whoever I hit with Fulcrum Shift / Short Circuit ).
Is there a point to this post? Probably not.
@Unthing ... Mostly on Union.