Newb Brute - Advice on Dark/Fire Please


Chaplain_EU

 

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This will be my first brute, and I am anticipating enjoying it a lot. I designed this toon as the Energizer Bunny. Basically with 2 self heals, 2 endurance recovery powers and stamina i anticipate riding on a high fury wave all the way through the map without pausing. I hope.

Blazing aura is the centrepiece to my anticipated enjoyment. Seeing those number rise with the Fury bar seems like a lot of fun. Also, has the added benefit of ticking away while locked into the slightly awkward SM animation.

Build - 1st Number= level, last number = slots.

1 -Shadow Punch- 5
1 -Fire Shield- 4
2 -Smite- 5
4 -Blazing Aura- 4
6 -Shadow Maul- 5
8 -Siphon Life- 6
10 -Healing Flames- 5
12 -Combat Jumping- 1
14 -Super Jump- 1
16 -Plasma Shield- 4
18 -Dark Consumption- 5
20 -Consume- 4
22 -Acrobatics- 1
24 -Swift- 1
26 -Soul Drain- 5
28 -Health- 3
30 -Burn- 2
32 -Midnight Grasp- 6
35 -Stamina- 1
38 -Rise of the Phoenix- 1

Not researched patrons yet.

Any comments on sustaining good fury with this build? Any other tips?

Thanks in advance!

Chap.


 

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Yes, i knew that, shame they dont generate fury, but they are effected by Fury for the whole time?


 

Posted

Ok, as both myself and my g.f play one of these I should be able to give some fairly useful advice.

1) Shadow Maul - Decent damage, but long animation tends to mean you can't use the power as often as you'd like. Best picked later on once you have a few Fury building attacks.

2) You still need Stamina ASAP, Dark Consumption and Consume are nice but when you're running 4 toggles (Fire Shield, Plasma Shield, Burning Aura and Acrobatics not to mention Tough and Weave later on) your End still drops like a sack of bricks before the powers recharge (Hasten may avoid this... maybe)

3) Generally speaking Dark Consumption covers most of your End Rec needs with Stamina, so far I've not needed Consume though I'm tempted to get it anyway because both powers are useful for knocking down several enemies health at once.

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Exported from Ver: 1.7.6.0 of the CoH_CoV Character Builder
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Name: Duke Belail
Level: 44
Archetype: Brute
Primary: Dark Melee
Secondary: Fiery Aura
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01) --> Shadow Punch==> Acc(1)Dmg(3)Dmg(34)TH_DeBuf(34)
01) --> Fire Shield==> EndRdx(1)DmgRes(3)DmgRes(7)DmgRes(13)
02) --> Smite==> Acc(2)Dmg(5)Dmg(19)TH_DeBuf(37)
04) --> Healing Flames==> Heal(4)Heal(5)Rechg(11)Rechg(36)
06) --> Combat Jumping==> DefBuf(6)DefBuf(7)Jump(9)
08) --> Blazing Aura==> EndRdx(8)EndRdx(9)Acc(15)Dmg(36)
10) --> Siphon Life==> Acc(10)Acc(11)EndRdx(13)Heal(15)Heal(23)Rechg(34)
12) --> Hurdle==> Jump(12)
14) --> Super Jump==> Jump(14)Jump(17)
16) --> Plasma Shield==> EndRdx(16)EndRdx(17)DmgRes(19)DmgRes(21)
18) --> Health==> Heal(18)Heal(21)Heal(31)
20) --> Stamina==> EndMod(20)EndMod(23)EndMod(31)
22) --> Dark Consumption==> Acc(22)Rechg(25)Rechg(25)EndMod(36)EndMod(43)
24) --> Acrobatics==> EndRdx(24)EndRdx(29)EndRdx(29)
26) --> Soul Drain==> Acc(26)Acc(27)Dmg(27)Dmg(31)Dmg(37)TH_Buf(37)
28) --> Consume==> Acc(28)Rechg(40)Rechg(40)EndMod(43)
30) --> Burn==> EndRdx(30)Dmg(40)Dmg(42)
32) --> Midnight Grasp==> Acc(32)Acc(33)Immob(33)EndRdx(33)
35) --> Boxing==> Acc(35)
38) --> Rise of the Phoenix==> Heal(38)EndMod(39)Dmg(39)Dmg(39)
41) --> Tough==> EndRdx(41)DmgRes(42)DmgRes(42)DmgRes(43)
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01) --> Sprint==> Empty(1)
01) --> Brawl==> Empty(1)
01) --> Fury==> Empty(1)
02) --> Rest==> Empty(2)
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Hey,

Have a lvl42 DM/FA brute myself, altho I don't find myself a great expert on this one :-)

* Shadow maul has indeed a long animation, and U can't take an inspiration when this is active, but it has a Brawl index of 6 !!! , which makes it the best lvl2 power in the whole brutes pack. This power is as powerfull as most lvl32 ones :-) That's why I 6-slotted this baby

* ROP (Rise Of the Phoenix) : haven't got that, I always team so, why would I need such a situational power?

* what Stamina concers, I totaly aggree with Miss_Manners, U just can't have enough, w8 till U fight the mu's and other bloody end drainers! Nice to steal some back lol

* Self heal (healing flames), Since FA is one of the squishy brutes armour, I'd suggest to 6-slot this one, U'll be pressing this more than U attack
(check out this US-post with some res. numbers http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showf...art=1#5822575)


* U want some extra damage on blzaing flames and all ur primary weapons, go for Fiery Embrace, It's a great booster

* Weave? despite what every1 says, I like it! makes the survivability of the squishy brute better :-)

This is the build I use :
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01) --> Smite==> Acc(1) Dmg(3) Dmg(13)
01) --> Fire Shield==> EndRdx(1) DmgRes(3) DmgRes(9) DmgRes(13)
02) --> Shadow Maul==> Acc(2) Dmg(7) Dmg(7) Dmg(15) Rechg(23) Acc(23)
04) --> Healing Flames==> Heal(4) Rechg(5) Heal(5) Rechg(11) Heal(31)
06) --> Combat Jumping==> EndRdx(6)
08) --> Siphon Life==> Acc(8) Acc(9) Heal(15) Heal(19) Rechg(25) Rechg(40)
10) --> Blazing Aura==> Acc(10) EndRdx(11)
12) --> Swift==> Run(12)
14) --> Super Jump==> EndRdx(14)
16) --> Plasma Shield==> EndRdx(16) DmgRes(17) DmgRes(17) DmgRes(19)
18) --> Health==> Heal(18) Heal(40) Heal(40)
20) --> Stamina==> EndMod(20) EndMod(21) EndMod(21)
22) --> Acrobatics==> EndRdx(22)
24) --> Consume==> Rechg(24) Rechg(25) Rechg(37) EndMod(37) EndMod(39)
26) --> Dark Consumption==> Acc(26) Acc(27) Rechg(27) Rechg(31) Rechg(37)
28) --> Soul Drain==> Acc(28) Acc(29) Rechg(29) Dmg(31) Dmg(34)
30) --> Boxing==> Acc(30)
32) --> Midnight Grasp==> Acc(32) Acc(33) Rechg(33) Dmg(33) Dmg(34) Dmg(34)
35) --> Tough==> EndRdx(35) DmgRes(36) DmgRes(36) DmgRes(36)
38) --> Fiery Embrace==> Rechg(38) Rechg(39) Rechg(39)
41) --> Weave==> EndRdx(41) DefBuf(42) DefBuf(42) DefBuf(42)

Evil Jared
Shadow Society
www.thesocpages.net


 

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Thanks for the help guys. Crikey my build is tighter than the proverbial nats chuff...

I picked Shadow Punch first up, which you didnt take, so you benefit 1 power immediately. I find it a good fury builder at the moment, but I expect i can lose it when i respec later and take boxing.

Also - is there any major working differences between Dark Consumption and Consume? Consume has double the range apparently. However I know that Dark Consumption only costs 1 End. Which is pretty good.

I know there are people on the US servers using this in a stamina less build. Since both end recovery powers have a recharge base of 180 seconds. With 3 Recharge SOs, that just over a minute at 72 seconds recharge. If you stagger both powers, you could potentially fill your end bar once every 36 seconds provided you have 3 mobs around you.

I need swift and health anyway im pretty sure, so its only going to save me one power, but I may try taking dark consumption at 20, consume at 22 and then stamina at 24 should i feel its necessary.

Also - have you tried burn under midnight grasp? I imagine its far too situational to be considered useful? Might be worth a play on test when i eventually get that far.

Also - touch of fear. I cant work this puppy in earlier than 30 with my current shadow punch build. the 20%ToHitDeBuff is awesome. 20 second duration? Woot. 8 second recharge. WOOTTT!!! 1 Recharge SO and you are triple Stacking for 60% ToHitDeBuff. Add some ToHitDeBuff enchancement and we are talking over 100% ToHitDeBuff from touch of fear alone. Not to mention the 10% from most of your other fury building attacks. This could be a PvP monster so long as you dont die in the first 10 seconds. Also very very helpful vs EBs and AVs. Would love to work this power in early. If only i had a freespec... grrr.


 

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Hey,

Burn : Tried it with full fury, boosted with fiery embrace and got tics of 11 to lvl+2. It was cool, but they just keep running away from U when U start burn changing their damage vector from melee to range (not freaks, but most foe can change attack). I don't like range damage :-(
So if U wanne use burn, make sure they're immob or hold.
It's fury and fiery embrace bounded, but I didn't felt comfortable using it....

Might give touch of fear a try on test :-)
read a US-post bout tough of fear, mebbe U can have look at it :
http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showf...part=1#5890417

Evil Jared
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