gamblers cut is min damage were as sting of the wasp is moderate.
Kuji-in Rin is your mez protection and should be slotted 3 recharge not end redux and def res as its a clicky not a toggle.
Assassins blade should be 2 ACC 3 dmg 1 recharge.((Can't even slot it with intx reducs !!!)
NO PLACATE ??? ARE YOU NUTS ???
6 slots in stamina ??? anything over 3 is a waste ! same with hasten !
NO STEALTH ??!! .. no chance in PVP without it !
Worst build EVER ! END YOURSELF !
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Bit harsh, hes asking for advice on his build, Im sure your no expert on all the builds yourself, we all learn as we try them.
I know cap well so I know hes never played a stalker before so he will have no idea at all. (cept the hasten and stamina thing /em slaps)
Although I do agree that some of your powers are not worth taking and some you havent are, the slotting also needs to be re-looked at mate.
Yep sorry 4am post and i've got a nin/nin at 50 atm so i know a thing or 2..still is the worst build ever tho.
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Why don't you post yours?
Then we can gasp in awe over the best build ever?
My opinion is that making a pvp stalker build is FAR from easy, in a way that you know what powers you want, but trying to squeeze them in at correct lvl ranges is a damn pain. Especially when stamina is involved.. I simply don't know a way to put every power I want in before lvl 30 including stamina,
You don't want to PvP before you get stealth, and its not gonna be enough against everybody. Depending on your play style you might want to get invisibility as well. In the build below I'd swap acrobatics for invisibility, but thats me. I tried to guess what you wanted from your build and retain some aspects.. Like acrobatics, epic powers and such.
Overall, the below build doesnt want to PvP before stealth, ie. lvl 30. It is also a LEVELING build more than a final build, you might want to swap some powers around.
And I still think the defensive toggles are the weakest link in the first 18 powers.. so damn tight build.. The toggles are not too good before you get SOs in them anyway.
And I consider smoke flash, blinding powder and caltrops as the most easily dismissable powers.. But to each his own.
Kuji in Sha is great in zonal PvP, and thats what Im thinking here.
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Level: 50
Archetype: Stalker
Primary: Ninja Blade
Secondary: Ninjitsu
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01) --> Gambler's Cut==> Acc(1) Dmg(3) Dmg(5)
01) --> Hide==> EndRdx(1) DefBuf(21) DefBuf(31) DefBuf(40)
02) --> Flashing Steel==> Acc(2) Dmg(3) Dmg(5) Dmg(11) Acc(19) Acc(46)
04) --> Ninja Reflexes==> EndRdx(4) DefBuf(17) DefBuf(17) DefBuf(36)
06) --> Assassin's Blade==> Acc(6) Dmg(7) Dmg(7) Dmg(9) Acc(19) Acc(43)
08) --> Build Up==> Rechg(8) Rechg(9) Rechg(11) TH_Buf(21) TH_Buf(36)
10) --> Combat Jumping==> Jump(10) Jump(36) Jump(40)
12) --> Hasten==> Rechg(12) Rechg(13) Rechg(13)
14) --> Placate==> Rechg(14) Rechg(15) Rechg(15)
16) --> Super Jump==> Jump(16) EndRdx(37) Jump(37)
18) --> Swift==> Run(18)
20) --> Health==> Heal(20)
22) --> Stamina==> EndMod(22) EndMod(23) EndMod(23)
24) --> Kuji-In Sha==> Heal(24) Heal(25) Heal(25) Rechg(33) Rechg(34) Rechg(34)
26) --> Soaring Dragon==> Acc(26) Acc(27) Dmg(27) Dmg(29) Dmg(31) Rechg(31)
28) --> Kuji-In Rin==> Rechg(28) Rechg(29)
30) --> Stealth==> EndRdx(30) DefBuf(37)
32) --> Danger Sense==> EndRdx(32) DefBuf(33) DefBuf(33) DefBuf(34)
35) --> Acrobatics==> EndRdx(35)
38) --> Kuji-In Retsu==> Rechg(38) Rechg(39) Rechg(39) DefBuf(39) DefBuf(40)
41) --> Golden Dragonfly==> Acc(41) Acc(42) Dmg(42) Dmg(42) Dmg(43) Rechg(43)
44) --> Dark Blast==> Acc(44) Acc(45) Dmg(45) Dmg(45) Dmg(46) Rechg(46)
47) --> Soul Storm==> Acc(47) Acc(48) Hold(48) Rechg(48) Rechg(50)
49) --> Summon Widow==> Acc(49) Dmg(50) Dmg(50)
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01) --> Sprint==> Empty(1)
01) --> Brawl==> Empty(1)
01) --> Assassination==> Empty(1)
02) --> Rest==> Empty(2)
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And lastly, im not an expert, so this is just a suggestion.
EDIT: You cant slot AS for interrupt time reduction, thats a glitch in hero builder.
EDIT EDIT: Kuji In Rin is perma with 2 SOs, with hasten thats more than enough, although at times you like it when its stacked (it gives 12,5% psi resistance 
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OK here's some tips, I can't be bothered to write a full build. Some people have said the same things but I'm going to try and put it more... politely....
<ul type="square">[*]You NEED Build Up and Placate. They are core Stalker powers.[*]Stealth is a must have in a mainly PvP build, it doubles your hiding capacity protecting you from tactics' +perception[*]Since Enhancement Diversification (ED) there is no point in putting more than 3 of the same kind of enhancement in one power, as any after that become negligable. (Re: Stamina and Hasten)[*]You need more DMG in your attacks, they're weak enough as it is. 3 slot AS for DMG.[*]Gambler's Cut is skippable[*]Get Divine Avalanche in the build and at least 3x DEF and 1x ACC - you can hit DEF cap when it stacks twice[*]The DEF enhancement in CJ is a waste of space, use end rdx or jump[*]Blinding Powder stinks[*]Kuji-In Rin doesn't need all that DmgRes, 2 slot it for Rch and it will be perma[/list]
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Why don't you post yours?
Then we can gasp in awe over the best build ever?
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Nobody said i've got the best build ever. i have a build i like and works for me but it might not work for someone else and i'm certainly not going to post it.
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Hmm some pointers from me:
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You can't skip the first power of the set, and its either this or sting of the wasp which is worse.
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[*]Get Divine Avalanche in the build and at least 3x DEF and 1x ACC - you can hit DEF cap when it stacks twice
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I'm not sure this is a stalker thing, but your mileage may vary (whatever that means)
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Kuji-In Rin doesn't need all that DmgRes, 2 slot it for Rch and it will be perma
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You can't even slot it for dam.res, once again a hero builder glitch. 2 recharge is correct.
On another note, I think most of the Epics arent that great and would be skippable altogether. I know Im getting dark blast on my stalker to constitute my bubbler/stormie/dev blaster etc killing arsenal along with Focus, but thats precisely because I have claws. Thats about it.. Afaik a.) spawning the pet breaks hide (im not sure though) b.) It will have trouble staying with you when you zoom around in PvP zones c.) it has really long recharge compared to its uptime. Theres already been discussion about the snipe, but Imo thats propably the most useless epic ever. Hold.. stalker shouldnt need holds to kill its targets, but maybe you have a more exotic build in mind. I left it at my proposed build because you can spam dark blast, soul storm, dark blast,.. to give some resemblance of ranged attacks.
For a PvP build particularly I dont think the epics are good, on a PvE build trying them out is more justified..
Personally Id instead take things like invisibility (slot 3 end red) and/or grant invisibility (to play with other stalkers)
sting of the wasp is better than gamblers as its moderate compaired to gamblers min dmg.
I always slot kuji-in rin with 3 recharge as 2 will only make it perm when the enhancers are green, anything lower and it has gaps, something you just don't want.
The epic holds IMO are great , could do with being longer but the main fact is stalkers get criticals on held targets, more crits can not be sniffed at.
I love my snipe and hold and they get used all the time in and out of PVP.
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sting of the wasp is better than gamblers as its moderate compaired to gamblers min dmg.
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Erm lol youre correct, my mistake. I don't use ninja blade myself and Im used to the mod damage attack to be second from the top XD
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The epic holds IMO are great , could do with being longer but the main fact is stalkers get criticals on held targets, more crits can not be sniffed at.
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This is something I didnt know..
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This is something I didnt know..
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Learn something new everyday 
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Thanks for all your replies guys, even thought chelsea was a bit harsh, like i said ive never played a stalker and dont know anything about most of the nin powers plus it was about 2am when i posted so forgivenesses on the crappy slotting.
Anyway thanks again and im sure i'll be able to get a decent build from wot u peeps have said
yeah i didn't mean to be harsh, was a 4am post lol
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Unless your into concept and stuff, I wouldn't get the final tier pet.
lol@ Chels
np chelsea
If it helps, im also on my first stalker, currently lvl23 and having a great time in Bloody Bay
Heres the build im aiming for at the moment..
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Name: Moonlight Sonata
Level: 50
Archetype: Stalker
Primary: Ninja Blade
Secondary: Ninjitsu
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01) --> Sting of the Wasp==> Acc(1)Acc(3)Dmg(3)Dmg(23)Dmg(37)
01) --> Hide==> EndRdx(1)DefBuf(7)DefBuf(9)DefBuf(15)
02) --> Ninja Reflexes==> EndRdx(2)DefBuf(7)DefBuf(9)DefBuf(15)
04) --> Flashing Steel==> Acc(4)Acc(5)Dmg(5)Dmg(23)Dmg(37)Rechg(46)
06) --> Assassin's Blade==> Acc(6)Acc(11)Dmg(11)Dmg(25)Dmg(25)Rechg(45)
08) --> Swift==> Run(8)Run(43)
10) --> Build Up==> Rechg(10)Rechg(17)Rechg(17)
12) --> Placate==> Rechg(12)Rechg(13)Rechg(13)
14) --> Combat Jumping==> Jump(14)
16) --> Super Jump==> Jump(16)
18) --> Health==> Heal(18)Heal(19)Heal(19)
20) --> Stamina==> EndMod(20)EndMod(21)EndMod(21)
22) --> Danger Sense==> EndRdx(22)DefBuf(29)DefBuf(29)DefBuf(31)
24) --> Kuji-In Rin==> Rechg(24)Rechg(27)Rechg(27)
26) --> Soaring Dragon==> Acc(26)Acc(31)Dmg(31)Dmg(34)Dmg(36)
28) --> Smoke Flash==> Acc(28)Acc(33)Rechg(37)Rechg(39)Rechg(39)
30) --> Assault==> EndRdx(30)EndRdx(33)
32) --> Golden Dragonfly==> Acc(32)Acc(33)Dmg(34)Dmg(34)Dmg(36)Rechg(46)
35) --> Stealth==> EndRdx(35)EndRdx(36)Rechg(42)Rechg(42)Rechg(43)
38) --> Kuji-In Retsu==> EndMod(38)EndMod(39)Run(40)Rechg(40)Rechg(40)Rechg(42)
41) --> Hurdle==> Jump(41)Jump(43)
44) --> Moonbeam==> Acc(44)Dmg(45)Dmg(45)Dmg(46)
47) --> Soul Storm==> Acc(47)Hold(48)Hold(48)Hold(48)
49) --> Tactics==> EndRdx(49)TH_Buf(50)TH_Buf(50)TH_Buf(50)
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01) --> Sprint==> Empty(1)
01) --> Brawl==> Empty(1)
01) --> Assassination==> Empty(1)
02) --> Rest==> Empty(2)
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The epic holds IMO are great , could do with being longer but the main fact is stalkers get criticals on held targets, more crits can not be sniffed at.
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This is something I didnt know..
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To be precise: 20% crit chance on hold and slept targets(here is the point of taking blinding powder)
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You can't skip the first power of the set, and its either this or sting of the wasp which is worse.
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I'm not sure this is a stalker thing, but your mileage may vary (whatever that means)
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Not when you have running the ranged and melee defenses shown slotted in the original poster's build. It's fact. You will hit def cap. It only lasts a few seconds though.
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Hold.. stalker shouldnt need holds to kill its targets
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BU>AS target 1.
Hold target 2.
Placate/strong attack on target 3.
Finish off target 2 with 20% chance of crit.
And Chelsea... are you sure you need 3 RchRed in your mez resistance? With 2 in green the overlap is about 10-15 seconds. Dropping below green is only about a 5-10% change. Although tbh I never let my enhances drop below green 
i really would advise not taking assault and tactics blizz nin/nin is pretty end heavy as it is but those 2 would make it worse..I'd drop both for invis and hasten.
I've heavyly slotted for end redux (2 in each toggle and in all attack powers) and i still can only scrap for a short time.
Also your only getting 5% for 3 slots in tactics.
The epic holds are extremely short, about 10 seconds or so 16 3 slotted with hold enhancers.
The snipe takes a bugger of a long time to fire also without a interp redux.
The extra slots in hurdle,health etc are not doing very much and could be used better elsewere.
only really need 1 recharge in stealth to .. the 2 end reduxs are great tho.
Kuji-in Retsu you'll really need slotted 3 def 3 recharge .. run is pointless as its fast enough and the end recharge is also.
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And Chelsea... are you sure you need 3 RchRed in your mez resistance? With 2 in green the overlap is about 10-15 seconds. Dropping below green is only about a 5-10% change. Although tbh I never let my enhances drop below green
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Funny that coz with 3 recharge i get an overlap of 10-15 seconds 2 would be alot less than that.and with white enhancers it drops to about 8 seconds.
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just tested it now with 1 lvl 51 SO and 1 lvl 50 SO and there was ZERO overlap infact i think there was a 1-2 second gap.
My toon is lvl 50 btw and tested without hasten.
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I've just realised I have it three slotted.
Hahaha. Hah.
I'll be over here if you need me :/ *walks into corner*
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I've just realised I have it three slotted.
Hahaha. Hah.
I'll be over here if you need me :/ *walks into corner*
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*passes the dunce hat to blaze*
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I've never played a stalker
, so i decided to roll one tonight, i went for nin/nin, cos i like the idea of making a ninja assasin toon 
anyway heres my proposed build for pvp, pls let me know if ive missed any good powers i need or any that i should get rid of, and if i have messed up the enhnc slotting. thank you and i look forward to your feedback
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Name: Silent Cap
Level: 50
Archetype: Stalker
Primary: Ninja Blade
Secondary: Ninjitsu
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01) --> Gambler's Cut==> Acc(1)Acc(3)EndRdx(7)Dmg(19)
01) --> Hide==> DefBuf(1)DefBuf(5)DefBuf(5)
02) --> Flashing Steel==> Acc(2)Acc(3)EndRdx(7)Dmg(19)
04) --> Ninja Reflexes==> EndRdx(4)DefBuf(13)DefBuf(13)DefBuf(15)
06) --> Assassin's Blade==> Acc(6)Acc(9)EndRdx(9)IntRdx(11)Dmg(11)
08) --> Combat Jumping==> DefBuf(8)
10) --> Danger Sense==> EndRdx(10)DefBuf(15)DefBuf(17)DefBuf(17)
12) --> Swift==> Run(12)
14) --> Super Jump==> Jump(14)
16) --> Kuji-In Rin==> EndRdx(16)DmgRes(43)DmgRes(43)DmgRes(46)
18) --> Health==> Heal(18)
20) --> Stamina==> EndMod(20)EndMod(21)EndMod(21)EndMod(27)EndMod(29)EndMod(29)
22) --> Kuji-In Sha==> Rechg(22)Rechg(23)Rechg(23)Heal(25)Heal(25)Heal(27)
24) --> Grant Invisibility==> Rechg(24)
26) --> Soaring Dragon==> Acc(26)Acc(34)EndRdx(34)Dmg(40)Rechg(42)Dmg(46)
28) --> Acrobatics==> EndRdx(28)
30) --> Hasten==> Rechg(30)Rechg(31)Rechg(31)Rechg(31)Rechg(33)Rechg(33)
32) --> Golden Dragonfly==> Acc(32)Acc(33)EndRdx(34)Dmg(37)Dmg(37)Rechg(37)
35) --> Blinding Powder==> Acc(35)EndRdx(36)ConfDur(36)Rechg(36)
38) --> Kuji-In Retsu==> DefBuf(38)DefBuf(39)DefBuf(39)Rechg(39)Rechg(40)Rechg(40)
41) --> Moonbeam==> Acc(41)EndRdx(42)Dmg(42)Rechg(43)
44) --> Soul Storm==> Acc(44)EndRdx(45)Hold(45)Dmg(45)Rechg(46)
47) --> Summon Widow==> Acc(47)Acc(48)Dmg(48)Dmg(48)
49) --> Smoke Flash==> Acc(49)Acc(50)Rechg(50)Rechg(50)
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01) --> Sprint==> Empty(1)
01) --> Brawl==> Empty(1)
01) --> Assassination==> Empty(1)
02) --> Rest==> Empty(2)
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