Is PvP in COH / COV any good ?

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I got one, lv31 atm (started it after RV event, where i saw how easy it was to get easy kills -tanks and spineys included-)

yes you said the word, "easy".
like with a blaster you have to hit 3 button to take an easy kill same as scrapper.

if we talk of true PvP, heros AT are more better at what they do and the dommage dealer have power to compensate the lack of buff and, it's personnal, i think that their build allow more specialized role.

Everyone has its pros and cons of course, but i gotta say at those levels i never got so many kills with my blaster or scrapper as i did in RV event, let alone that those kills were done in the middle of big groups. One AT alone should never be able to get kills in an 8man team well packed imo

bha a stalker that get a kill in a well packet 8 man group is

1/ lucky that there are no aura, tactique, taunt and so on for a stalkerand by the why as we can't anymore look at the power chosen by the opposed side, taking the risk and provock the luck must be rewerded ^^


and by the way a blaster and a rava can too jump in a group in hoping to kill the weakest. kamikaze style.


2/ is a dead one right after if the team is not speaking aound a cup of tea. even with tping oout he cant be safe for 7 launched power that will kill him when he will reapear

3/ a regen or a sr rava. and here there will not be one but 2 or 3 kill.

Errm soz but what is a rava??

Anyway, killing a squishie in an 8man team well packed isn't that easy (of course with elude or its equivalents it's not, but thats not a requirement) a quick kill is easy to get , the hairy thing is leaving the place alive when u get debuffed (i got phase for that, it works like wonders.. when they finally think they got you u just /e newspaper for their disgust and leave the place safely ). When AS can't be achieved due to auras or +percep, or force bubble... well 2 impales will do to get a squishie before epic armors (hey, i'm a spiney, what can i say) bu+impale+placate, and impale while jumping backwards to phase as u land . Simply as it seems, it worked like a breethe to me in RV event

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Errm soz but what is a rava??


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French word for scrapper? I'd like to know too..

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Errm soz but what is a rava??


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French word for scrapper? I'd like to know too..

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ah yes i am sorry i always forgot about that, yes scapper are called ravageur in french , so ... "rava"

i'll try tonot forget anymore

anyway not everybody play a spine stalker and for elude, i was a little disapointed about it. i mean in rv eluded scrapper (got it you see? ^^) were nightmare to hit same for MoG one but when a was the eluded one (stalker) i was still hit by scrapper (and there was no FA yet :/ ) and i don't talk about energy blaster : /


HS: you talked about phaseshift (witch should be removed from any PvP, not fun) is it still a god mode? today withmy dominator i got a little in pain in a overcrowded rikti base, so i hit phaseshit (the warburg temp power not the cancealement one) and ok i take one or to hit more that were launched before i standa little and take another hit that forced me to flee (no the power was not finished yet)

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i personnaly would say that stalker is one of the worst AT for PvP

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they are powerful in the lower lvl zones or 1 vs 1s... in the higher lvl zones or arena team matches etc, they become a lot less useful. They are single target killers, but in a good team they get killed as soon as they touch a teammember.

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Is PvP in COH / COV any good ?

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Unless you are playing with Far-Seer and all you can hear him screaming is 'run Kin, run' for the duration of the arena match

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HA! Hey, it won us the game

Well after trying and trying and trying again it seems to me as if I only have bad PVP days with COX. I play a Corrupter and a Dominator. One is 39 and the other one is level 40. Until now, I didn't really have fun, when I entered the PVP zones. What's the fun in being killed in 2 or 3 shots by ATs I can't kill myself, even when I get a 30 seconds head start?

Yes, I know what you want to answer: I need a good team. But tell you what, most teams I get will try to spread out as far as possible, so that no marker on the map is close to a second marker. The fun really begins, when I am caught on the wrong foot by a scrapper or a berserker (in WB) or a blaster. Either I am dead before I can even do anything or I am pummeled/ slowed/ dizzy so that I will die in the next Hit.

I don't think I will try PVP again soon. I think if you got the right AT, it can be real fun, but otherwise you are really screwed.

Phase shift has been so blatantly nerfed over time that it's only useful in pvp for stalkers imo (so that they can hide again) but yes, having phase shift, elude, aid self and all the weapons stalkers have, i think they are quite overpowered, and in no way the worst AT for PvP

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I think if you got the right AT, it can be real fun, but otherwise you are really screwed.

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/em agree sadly. Some powersets are really better for pvp duels than others, and when teaming, it's always a kill the squishy effort, so their amusement depends quite much on the non squishies skills to cover them

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I think if you got the right AT, it can be real fun, but otherwise you are really screwed.

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/em agree sadly. Some powersets are really better for pvp duels than others, and when teaming, it's always a kill the squishy effort, so their amusement depends quite much on the non squishies skills to cover them

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Err, or how much the squishies are able to cover themselves. Just needs some practice and a bit of skill. If you blame your teammates if you die, then to be frank, go back to PvE.

I only blame them when they play as if they were alone and not in a team ... oh! and I won't stop PvPing just cause u don't agree with me there

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I only blame them when they play as if they were alone and not in a team ... oh! and I won't stop PvPing just cause u don't agree with me there

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Want to give a few examples?

Sure. Squishies are always the primary targets in team PvP. If melee types only go squishy hunting completely forget about most vulnerable partners (when a 10 minutes match ends like 27-24), thats maybe fun for the big guys, but not so much for the ganked support ATs . That doesnt imply, of course that it's all melee AT's responsability to keep squishies alive, but some protection is expected from big guys imo

How do you expect them to protect you? Squishies are the ones with the power to protect themselves, and other people.

Not if u are alone against 3 scrappers and a tanker :P. I'd expect some taunt/gauntlet for instance. If a squishy has to perma run for his life he will be no help for his team. Thats more like lets see who gets more kills on squishies in less time, which more fun for the killers than for the victims :P. If the team is packed and look after each other as a team, all can help each other more efficiently imo

Taunt/Gauntlet is no where near as effective in PvP as people think. It cannot be used to prevent anyones death. It just prolongs it. So what do the 3 Scrappers and tank do? They take out the Squishie that is defending the squishie hunter, so that they are able to atcually prevent the squishie hunter from killing a squishie...

I personally think thats common sense, obviously you see it different. Just because you're being attacked, you expect everysingle scrapper, tank and blaster to drop what there doing and come and aid you? If they don't you blame them for not working as a team. Interesting.

I blame them if they can taunt and they don't cuz they all gank the other team squishy too. That means gankers and ganked, which is usually less fun for the ganked ones . Alright, we agree on that taunt and gauntlet is nowhere as good in pvp as it is in pve, but its still a nice move. I have always found that more kills were gotten when playing as a team instead of just squishies buffing and running and tankers/scrappers getting the kills.

Sgt_Furnace describes exactly why PVp is absolutely zero fun for me

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Not if u are alone against 3 scrappers and a tanker :P. I'd expect some taunt/gauntlet for instance. If a squishy has to perma run for his life he will be no help for his team. Thats more like lets see who gets more kills on squishies in less time, which more fun for the killers than for the victims :P. If the team is packed and look after each other as a team, all can help each other more efficiently imo

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Gauntlet is pretty junk in PvP imo, it runs out too fast, and usually tankers Ive seen aren't mobile enough to keep up with the lithe damagedealers.

Taunt in pvp has changed rather drastically in I7 propably requiring it to be like 5-6 slotted to be effective in PVP.

Bleh. I don't know, but doesnt look that good so far. Tanks in pvp are now much more durable (not unkillable) but their uses to team has lessened imo.

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Team PvP is far, far better than solo PvP.

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This is a nugget of absolute truth on which a religion could be founded

In a team is deffinatly better (i use Ulver to PVP as my other toons are either not at a high enough lvl or in the case of necrolust i dont want to pvp with a MM) or at the very least sticking close to another player so you can cover each other.

I do really enjoy the PVP I do die, alot, but to "kill" someone is rather satisfying to say the least. Overall its a fun extra but deffinatly isn't an integral part of why i love CoX

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Team PvP is far, far better than solo PvP.

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This is a nugget of absolute truth on which a religion could be founded

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Everything is subjective, there are characters who, when played skillfully, are quite good in solo pvp. But if someone has trouble with pvp in general, I suggest trying out teaming.. (Not all teams are great either though)

EDIT: it depends who you are going against too.