rad/elec build 1st ime defender all advice welcome
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Captain_Cathode,
Posted on: 2006-05-17 08:45 in Defenders
AM doesn't really need too many End Reducs. Can you slot it with Enddrn (or End mod as they are now) to provide some extra pre-stamina Endurance boosting?
I'd give Short Circuit some recred too. Once i7 kicks in it should be a valid soft control again for bosses so the sooner it recharges the better. I'd go with 1 acc, 3 End Drn and 2 recharges in it if you had the slots.
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AM doesn't really need too many End Reducs. Can you slot it with Enddrn (or End mod as they are now) to provide some extra pre-stamina Endurance boosting?
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EndRec = end recovery.
Instead of endrec and enddrn an up to date planner should jsut have them as endmods.
The only thing I can really say about your build is that if you intend to PvP you need at least 2 accuracy and or tactics in your powers so I'd slot up your attacks a bit more if you can.
for som reason the slots on AM havent copied right i had put down 3 recharge 3 end mods
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for som reason the slots on AM havent copied right i had put down 3 recharge 3 end mods
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Nah, I just misread em I think.
So we're both right (except for me 
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Well, one or two comments - I've played both of these powersets quite a bit, although not on the same toon...
Fallout is a waste of a power most of the time in PvE. If you're planning to PvP a lot maybe someone with experience of it could comment on its usefulness there.
There's no point slotting Charged Bolts for End Drain I'm afraid, the base drain is far too low. You do want 3 end drains in Short Circuit, though.
Rad Infection doesn't really need End reducers - I'd go with 3 TH debuff and 3 Def debuff instead.
A 3rd Hold duration in Choking Cloud is well worth it.
And although it's not mandatory for a Defender, Radiant Aura (your PBAoE heal) really is well worth picking up - I'd certainly take it over Fallout myself.
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I played cyberskin, my rad/elec, to level 50. I wont post build, although I am contemplating a guide for this combo 
A few points:
Must haves:
RI (3 tohit debuff, 3 def debuff)
EV (3 end red)
LR (slot how you want but at least 1 acc)
Nearly must haves
Telsa Cage (3 hold, 1-2 acc, 1-2 recharge)
Short circuit (3 end mods, 1 acc, 0-2 recharge)
If you are playing a more melee type style (and if you a going to get short circuit and choking cloud I guess you are), I strongly recommend acrobatics. Rad/Elec is aggro +++ and unless you have debuffed your enemies you is gonna be deeeeed. Held = debuffs go = dead.
Fallout is maligned. I wouldnt get it till 40s tho, if at all, and if you are getting it, recall freind is helpful. When you are fighting all those pesky AVs, fallout + mutate is a significant tide swinger. People knock fallout cos its damage is rather unspectacular, but I think forget its debuff is really very tasty.
Finally, the biggest mistake I ever made with cyber' was getting thunderous strike. Never get anything with knockback... ever 
(and it is knockback, not knockdown/up no matter what the text says).
If interest is there Ill post guide. I found rad/elec a VERY fun, offendery and yet defendery set. To be honest, i never saw the deal with the secondary effect of rad if you are rad/rad - your primary is debuffing defence quite enough without additional effects from rad secondary but hey ho.
I'm another Rad/Elec/Elec
Personally I've never taken Fallout - its generally reguarded as a bit of a waste - I hear it does good damage but with more than one rez-er on the team you may not get it off unless you tell people. I'd take Mutate sooner but skip Fallout. If you can get the Leadership pool I guess you could do a Fallout/Vengance/Mutate Combo.
I would not recomend taking Thunderous Blast. Why take a power that automatically turns off all your toggles? You lose RI, EF and Chocking Cloud if you use it. So unless you kill everything your defenceless. I'm a part of the "Defenders shouldn't NOVA" group here.
Thunderstrike is GREAT I absolutely love it. Thunderstrike is much MUCH better than electric fence. Take Thunderstrike.
THUNDERSTRIKE!
Theres no point slotting Electric Blast power with Endurance Modification except Short Circuit - I tried it and it's totally ineffective. Put them into Short Circuit and reap the rewards. Short Circuit plus Power Sink with 2 endMods in SC and 3 in PS normally = zero end for most enemies.
Thunderstrike? for a rad? are you mad?
Ok you nice bunch of clustered debuffed fools - witness my THUNDERSTIKE!
Debuffed fools ---> Fly in all directions ----> Not debuffed and angry enemies ----> ooops!
I never used fallout for damage tbh. It was very helpful fighting the AVs 40-50. Someone dies - teleport em to AVs feet, fallout, DEBUFF ++++
And given the boost to AVs, debuffs are going to be highly valuable and the more the better (and you are going to start seeing people drop at AVs feet a LOT more)
Dont rate fallout by damage alone. Its a debuff first and foremost.
But Thunderstrike is so much FUN!
The knockback may not actually be useful (as you pointed out it's actually bad), the activation time is a joke, the damage is pretty average but I still love Thunderstike because it makes me feel powerful seeing a gang of critters fly in all directions actually made up for having no attacks that did knockback until lvl 40.
Seeing as the choice is Thunderstike or Electric Fence. I'd pick Thunderstrike every time.
Or go psionic, like me: Scared of opening up with a debuff? Well sleep em first!
And nothing like the joy of psionic armour when fighting carnies
Although I would have to concede Thuinderstrike is more fun than electric fence!
im a first time defender (aka n00b) and i come from a scrapper background, and i decided to make a rad/elec defender.. at the moment i find myself a little conflicted as to what is really important within the build.
this is my planned build at the moment, please tell me what you think and what could be changed i was going for a sapper type of build that may pvp every now and then
Archetype: Defender
Primary Powers - Ranged : Radiation Emission
Secondary Powers - Support : Electrical Blast
01 : Charged Bolts acc(01) enddrn(7) enddrn(17)
01 : Radiation Infection thtdbf(01) defdbf(3) endred(3) thtdbf(33) defdbf(33) endred(37)
02 : Lightning Bolt acc(02) dam(7) dam(15) dam(21)
04 : Accelerate Metabolism endrec(04) recred(5) recred(5) endrec(15) endrec(39) recred(39)
06 : Enervating Field endred(06) endred(19) endred(33)
08 : Ball Lightning acc(08) dam(9) endred(9) dam(21)
10 : Short CIrcuit acc(10) enddrn(11) enddrn(11) endred(13)
12 : Hasten recred(12) recred(13) recred(19)
14 : Super Speed runspd(14)
16 : Aim thtbuf(16) thtbuf(17) recred(34) thtbuf(42) recred(42) recred(42)
18 : Hurdle jmp(18)
20 : Health hel(20) hel(48)
22 : Stamina endrec(22) endrec(23) endrec(23)
24 : Lingering Radiation acc(24) recred(25) recred(25) slw(31) endred(37)
26 : Fallout dam(26) dam(27) dam(27)
28 : Tesla Cage acc(28) hlddur(29) hlddur(29) hlddur(31)
30 : Choking Cloud endred(30) hlddur(31) endred(34) hlddur(34) endred(37)
32 : EMP Pulse acc(32) hlddur(36) endred(36) hlddur(36)
35 : Zapp acc(35) dam(46) dam(46) dam(46) inttim(48)
38 : Thunderous Blast acc(38) dam(39) dam(40) dam(40) enddrn(40) enddrn(45)
41 : Thunder Strike acc(41) dam(43) dam(43) dam(43) recred(45) recred(45)
44 : Charged Armor damres(44) damres(50) damres(50)
47 : Power Sink enddrn(47) enddrn(48) enddrn(50)
49 : Mutation recred(49)
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01 : Brawl enhancement(01)
01 : Sprint enhancement(01)
02 : Rest enhancement(02)
(i realise getting rez at 49 is a lil stupid)
"an eye for an eye can only lead to blindness"
"am i a clown for wearing a smile...or are you a fool to try and stop me?"
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