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Fire/Kinetics Controller

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By Archy,
Posted on: 2006-04-20 14:19 in Controllers

 

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Lets get sraight to the point. Made Fire/kinetics controller, want a good build plan. He will be both PvP/PvE. Build Posts appreciated.

 

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Fire / Kin is a PvE build, infact its so good at PvE I would never make a PvP build for it.

50s
controllers: Ill rad , grav rad, fire kin, ice kin
blaster: ice em
scrapper: spines sr

 

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You can make a decent PvP build out of it but as Imaginary said I would probably just stick to a pure PvE build since it's just so incredibly good in PvE

Heres my PvE Fire/Kin (does ok against casual PvPers)

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Name: Arch Jackson
Level: 50
Archetype: Controller
Primary: Fire Control
Secondary: Kinetics
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01) --> Char==> Acc(1) Acc(3) Rechg(5) Rechg(5) Hold(7) Hold(9)
01) --> Transfusion==> Acc(1) Acc(3) Rechg(7) Heal(9) Heal(11) Heal(50)
02) --> Siphon Power==> Acc(2) Acc(17)
04) --> Fire Cages==> Acc(4) Acc(29) EndRdx(40)
06) --> Combat Jumping==> Jump(6)
08) --> Hurdle==> Jump(8)
10) --> Siphon Speed==> Acc(10) Acc(11) Rechg(37) Rechg(40) Rechg(43) EndRdx(50)
12) --> Flashfire==> Acc(12) Acc(13) Rechg(13) Rechg(15) DisDur(15) DisDur(17)
14) --> Super Jump==> Jump(14)
16) --> Health==> Heal(16)
18) --> Cinders==> Acc(18) Acc(19) Rechg(19) Hold(21) Hold(21) Hold(25)
20) --> Speed Boost==> EndMod(20) EndMod(31) EndMod(34)
22) --> Stamina==> EndMod(22) EndMod(23) EndMod(23)
24) --> Hot Feet==> Dmg(24) Dmg(25) Dmg(27) EndRdx(27) EndRdx(31) EndRdx(46)
26) --> Acrobatics==> EndRdx(26) EndRdx(29)
28) --> Hasten==> Rechg(28) Rechg(34) Rechg(34)
30) --> Super Speed==> Run(30) EndRdx(31)
32) --> Fire Imps==> Acc(32) Acc(33) Dmg(33) Dmg(33) Dmg(46)
35) --> Transference==> Acc(35) Acc(36) Rechg(36) Rechg(36) EndMod(37) EndMod(37)
38) --> Fulcrum Shift==> Acc(38) Acc(39) Rechg(39) Rechg(39) Rechg(40)
41) --> Fire Ball==> Acc(41) Acc(42) Rechg(42) Dmg(42) Dmg(43) Dmg(43)
44) --> Fire Shield==> EndRdx(44) EndRdx(45) DmgRes(45) DmgRes(45) DmgRes(46)
47) --> Fire Blast==> Acc(47) Acc(48) Dmg(48) Dmg(48) Dmg(50)
49) --> Recall Friend==> Rechg(49)
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01) --> Sprint==> Run(1)
01) --> Brawl==> Dmg(1)
01) --> Containment==> Empty(1)
02) --> Rest==> Rechg(2)
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With this build I can tank AVs

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And mine, although it's a respec build around 30 (PvE, but should be ok in PvP)
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Exported from Ver: 1.7.6.0 of the CoH_CoV Character Builder - (http://sherksilver.coldfront.net/index.php)
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Name: Tleollin
Level: 50
Archetype: Controller
Primary: Fire Control
Secondary: Kinetics
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01) --> Char==> Acc(1) Acc(3) Hold(5) Hold(9) Rechg(17) Rechg(17)
01) --> Transfusion==> Acc(1) Heal(3) Heal(9) Heal(40) Acc(46) Rechg(46)
02) --> Fire Cages==> Acc(2) EndRdx(5) Acc(31)
04) --> Siphon Power==> Acc(4) Rechg(11) Rechg(34)
06) --> Hasten==> Rechg(6) Rechg(7) Rechg(7)
08) --> Swift==> Run(8)
10) --> Siphon Speed==> Acc(10) Rechg(11) Rechg(40) Rechg(43) Acc(50)
12) --> Flashfire==> Acc(12) Acc(13) DisDur(13) DisDur(15) Rechg(34) Rechg(34)
14) --> Hot Feet==> Dmg(14) Dmg(15) Dmg(31) EndRdx(31) EndRdx(33) Acc(46)
16) --> Hurdle==> Jump(16)
18) --> Cinders==> Acc(18) Acc(19) Hold(19) Hold(23) Rechg(25) Rechg(25)
20) --> Stamina==> EndMod(20) EndMod(21) EndMod(21)
22) --> Speed Boost==> EndMod(22) EndMod(23)
24) --> Assault==> EndRdx(24)
26) --> Tactics==> TH_Buf(26) TH_Buf(27) TH_Buf(27) EndRdx(29) EndRdx(29)
28) --> Inertial Reduction==> Jump(28)
30) --> Stealth==> DefBuf(30)
32) --> Fire Imps==> Dmg(32) Dmg(33) Dmg(33) Acc(37)
35) --> Transference==> Acc(35) Acc(36) EndMod(36) EndMod(36) Rechg(37) Rechg(37)
38) --> Fulcrum Shift==> Acc(38) Acc(39) Rechg(39) Rechg(39) Rechg(40)
41) --> Fire Ball==> Acc(41) Acc(42) Dmg(42) Dmg(42) Dmg(43) Rechg(43)
44) --> Fire Shield==> DmgRes(44) DmgRes(45) DmgRes(45) EndRdx(45)
47) --> Fire Blast==> Acc(47) Acc(48) Dmg(48) Dmg(48) Dmg(50)
49) --> Increase Density==> DmgRes(49) DmgRes(50)

The only thing missing is mez protection, so I may swap Stealth for Hover (at least for knockback). Some people prefer the CJ/SJ/Acrobatics road, but I don't know what I'd drop. I went for Assault/Tactics to make sure I don't miss much (you'll be fighting +2/+3s very quickly), and also for some extra damage before Fulcrum. When levelling, I took AS/Fly then dropped them when I respecced for IR. I also waited until then to pick up Hot Feet (and dropped Bonfire). Note that even with Stamina, endurance was a bit of an issue before Transference.

CoX 50s: <ill/rad> <ice/ice> <fire/kin> <grav/sonic> <ice/storm> <earth/kin> <kin/elec> <cold/psy> <thugs/dark> <fire/dark> <dark/elec> <night widow> <EM/ninj> <mind/icy>

 

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Thats a point I've always wondered about */Kinetics. They could really respec and open up 3-4 slots when they hit 35, dropping some Travel Powers and Fitness. It's almost like a 2 stage build setup.

 

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Thats a point I've always wondered about */Kinetics. They could really respec and open up 3-4 slots when they hit 35, dropping some Travel Powers and Fitness. It's almost like a 2 stage build setup.

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IMO most trollers should have a pre 30ish build and a "finalised" build thereafter; For me personally i used Ring of fire for dmg (2 acc, 3 dmg) and slotted Char with dmg till the late teens. Of course you can just make the build you want from the start but you will have a harder time in the lowerlvls that way.

You can do without Stamina, and it's pretty easy too, but you have to have a constant eye on your endbar + stamina is needed if you want to PvP.

EDIT: Stamina is needed if you take Hot Feet!!

Sure you can use Inertial Reduction instead of Super Jump and it's actually better but then you miss out on the 2 great powers Combat Jumping and Acrobatics.
About Super Speed? I just love it...never turn it off and hasten is just too good to miss...especially with stacked Siphon Speeds

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well, thanx for the replys all