Ice/Nrg Pure PvP Build

Gorgog · 04-09-2006 02:09 PM

Just respecing my blaster and finding it hard to fit in bone smasher. Should I or will Energy Punch and Total Focus be enough you think?

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Name: Mr IceNrg
Level: 50
Archetype: Blaster
Primary: Ice Blast
Secondary: Energy Manipulation
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01) --> Ice Blast==> Acc(1) Acc(3) Dmg(5) Dmg(7) Dmg(9) Rechg(11)
01) --> Power Thrust==> Acc(1) Acc(46)
02) --> Ice Bolt==> Acc(2) Acc(3) Dmg(5) Dmg(7) Dmg(9) Rechg(11)
04) --> Build Up==> Rechg(4) Rechg(17) Rechg(31) TH_Buf(34) TH_Buf(34) TH_Buf(46)
06) --> Aim==> Rechg(6) Rechg(15) Rechg(17) TH_Buf(27) TH_Buf(33) TH_Buf(34)
08) --> Freeze Ray==> Acc(8) Acc(13) Hold(13) Hold(15) Rechg(25)
10) --> Hurdle==> Jump(10) Jump(42)
12) --> Combat Jumping==> Jump(12) Jump(42)
14) --> Super Jump==> EndRdx(14)
16) --> Health==> Heal(16)
18) --> Bitter Ice Blast==> Acc(18) Acc(19) Dmg(19) Dmg(21) Dmg(21) Rechg(25)
20) --> Stamina==> EndMod(20) EndMod(27) EndMod(31)
22) --> Hasten==> Rechg(22) Rechg(23) Rechg(23) Rechg(36)
24) --> Acrobatics==> EndRdx(24) EndRdx(36)
26) --> Aid Other==> Heal(26)
28) --> Power Boost==> Rechg(28) Rechg(29) Rechg(29)
30) --> Aid Self==> Heal(30) Heal(31) Heal(33) IntRdx(33)
32) --> Energy Punch==> Acc(32) Acc(36) Dmg(37) Dmg(39) Dmg(39) EndRdx(40)
35) --> Boost Range==> Rechg(35) Rechg(37) Rechg(37)
38) --> Total Focus==> Acc(38) Acc(39) Dmg(40) Dmg(40) Dmg(43) EndRdx(43)
41) --> Personal Force Field==> DefBuf(41) DefBuf(42) DefBuf(43)
44) --> Temp Invulnerability==> EndRdx(44) EndRdx(45) DmgRes(45) DmgRes(45) DmgRes(46)
47) --> Force of Nature==> DmgRes(47) DmgRes(48) DmgRes(48) Rechg(48) Rechg(50) Rechg(50)
49) --> Super Speed==> EndRdx(49) Run(50)
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01) --> Sprint==> EndRdx(1)
01) --> Brawl==> Acc(1)
01) --> Defiance==> Empty(1)
02) --> Rest==> Rechg(2)
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Any advice muchly appreciated .

Imaginary_EU · 04-09-2006 02:18 PM

Make a build with bonesmasher

After that Ill reply.

50s
controllers: Ill rad , grav rad, fire kin, ice kin
blaster: ice em
scrapper: spines sr

Scrapapo · 04-09-2006 02:34 PM

I think it's probably better to first go for Energy Punch rather than Ice Bolt, and get Bone Smasher in there somewhere, it's the best power in the secondary.

World of Jackcraft.

Filth_EU · 04-09-2006 03:26 PM

Just get it out there ASAP we desperately need more Ice/En.

Gorgog · 04-09-2006 03:30 PM

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Make a build with bonesmasher

After that Ill reply.

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Would seem that is your reply to my only question.

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I think it's probably better to first go for Energy Punch rather than Ice Bolt, and get Bone Smasher in there somewhere, it's the best power in the secondary.

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Thanks.

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Just get it out there ASAP we desperately need more Ice/En.

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I made my blaster in I3/4 before arena and most people, not my fault everyone has copied me .

Synaesthetix · 04-09-2006 03:37 PM

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Just get it out there ASAP we desperately need more Ice/En.

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This cannot be stressed enough.

@Synaesthetix
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Gorgog · 04-09-2006 03:52 PM

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Just get it out there ASAP we desperately need more Ice/En.

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This cannot be stressed enough.

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Actually it can, esp given what has already been said. Anyway points go to Jackhobo for comming up with the best solution.

Halo_ · 04-09-2006 04:15 PM

It's debatable whether or not heal self is any good for a pure PvP build.

If you got rid of that and heal other, it would give you space for 2 powers - I would go for bonesmasher and TP Foe.

Also swift is worth looking at over health, the health regen for a blaster is low and swift 3 slotted will add to your mobility.

You've taken Energy Punch late and has a good 30% chance to disorient, bonesmasher has a 50% chance to disorient. IIRC these are your main toggle droppers.

I normally TP Foe, Bonesmasher on autofire, then use Freeze ray, one nicely held bad guy to pummel at my leisure and that's at lv 14.

Also powerboost gives a 100% boost to your secondary effects, imagine that with bonesmasher

Gorgog · 04-09-2006 04:20 PM

Even nicer on TF . But Bone Smasher and Energy Punch are energy's toggle droppers.

Since I move around alot I often find myself in the red having escaped ppl, long enough for a heal but not for a rest, couldnt see meself w/o self heal tbh, and it means your not so much of a drain on your healer when teamed.

PFF can also work well with heal, at least vs some players and the disorient res can only be a plus .

Filth_EU · 04-09-2006 05:01 PM

On a more constructive note, there are other blaster builds that are effective in PvP, curiously now, I've seen a very entertaining */Dev (OverTkill) in Siren's who is pretty funny and a Stalker hunter (and part-time Dom hunter as well ). It's great to see someone like that who isn't massively overpowering and yet still effective.

MaXimillion_Zero · 04-09-2006 06:06 PM

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On a more constructive note, there are other blaster builds that are effective in PvP, curiously now, I've seen a very entertaining */Dev (OverTkill) in Siren's who is pretty funny and a Stalker hunter (and part-time Dom hunter as well ). It's great to see someone like that who isn't massively overpowering and yet still effective.

[/ QUOTE ]/Dev's work very well against stalkers, also it can be argued that /elec is even better for Blapping than /NRG (I know everyone's agains me on this one, too bad for them ).

Gorgog · 04-09-2006 06:21 PM

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On a more constructive note, there are other blaster builds that are effective in PvP, curiously now, I've seen a very entertaining */Dev (OverTkill) in Siren's who is pretty funny and a Stalker hunter (and part-time Dom hunter as well ). It's great to see someone like that who isn't massively overpowering and yet still effective.

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This is constructive? As I said I made my Ice/Nrg pretty much before anyone ever made a single PvP build on a euro server.

So why on earth would I want to stop using him and build another one that I did not think of from scratch just because fanboys decided to make them?

Filth_EU · 04-09-2006 09:03 PM

My apologies, my first post should have said "oh god please no, not another one". Whether and when you first made one isn't relevant - I have one on Defiant which I made sometime in Feb 2005 but there's no way I'd ever play him in PvP I'd be too ashamed. That's not a comment on you it's just the state of play.

LadyWhite · 04-09-2006 09:57 PM

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It's debatable whether or not heal self is any good for a pure PvP build.

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A blaster with heal self should beat a blaster without heal self 1v1 IMO. Unless the one with out has cold epic making his opponents heal self useless(snow storm) and then having hibernate himself to self heal. Heal self is a great power if you tend to 1v1 alot. If you like to team (likes of pentad) then i would chose another set of powers instead.

Gorgog · 04-09-2006 11:10 PM

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My apologies, my first post should have said "oh god please no, not another one". Whether and when you first made one isn't relevant - I have one on Defiant which I made sometime in Feb 2005 but there's no way I'd ever play him in PvP I'd be too ashamed. That's not a comment on you it's just the state of play.

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So instead you suggest one uses I3 FOTM */Dev? Perhaps the uber Fire/Dev as everyone used to have?

When I made my Ice/Nrg I had to put up with people telling me I shouldnt as controllers can hold bosses better and scrappers can kill them better.

Now when I ask a question about them the reply is "I would be too ashamed to play mine" no doubt cos its too uber and everyone has one.

The fact that Ice/Nrg is a quite common AT for PvP hasnt completely escaped my awareness nor do I actually care. People can play whatever they like as far as I am concerned, I was really only asking peoples view on a single question.

If youve bothered to read this far Lady White any idea what epic youll be going for in I7? .

P.S. Not actually as pissed off as I am coming over as but your comments came over as A) Having little to do with the thread, B) Suggesting I stop playing one of my old chars in order to make yet another one, and C) That I was jumping onto some sort of band wagon. I have Doms, I have Defenders for PvP I just also happen to have an old blaster I want to use aswell and dont feel the slightest bit ashamed about it . Apology accepted though as I am sure none of the above were intended .

Just waiting for the time someone says my MC/Ice Dom is FOTM too common to play!