Paragon Standard - Issue 4
Hugs all round!
*starts the hugging*
I misunderstood Stef in a conversation last night, whereby myself and Jen took it to understand she had written the article. I apologise for my error.
On the subject of gossip columns, such articles exist to illicit conversation based on the content. People are going to gossip about what happens in a gossip column.
Edit: I don't consider anything I've seen in Local chat, or the paper, to be an "issue." However, I do expect people to make comments in jest based on what they see. It's human nature, and we all do it.
The matter which has arisen will be dealt with privately.
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From my point of view, if you RP'd it in local, in my hearing, then it is viable for the paper. If two characters have a fight at the statue, there will probably be an article, and I probably won't ask direct permission of those involved. If anyone has a problem with that, feel free to PM me or email the paper.
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Or indeed, air it here, I'd consider a debate over whether RP implies consent for an IC publiciation a perfectly on-topic thing.
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Indeed a worthy debate... does IC RP in Local automaticly free it up for use by others?
Personal opinion, open to change:
If it happens at GG, then yes, it's up for grabs.
If it's in a more private location, then it's up to those involved.
@ShadowGhost & @Ghostie
The Grav Mistress, Mistress of Gravity
If you have nothing useful to say, you have two choices: Say something useless or stay quiet.
Hmmm.. public location? Certainly... Gossip columns live on that stuff...
Stuff overheard from more private locations? I'd expect the paper to get an IC letter of complaint.
Take, for example, the gossip of the Doc kissing Ellie. Now she's likely to be a tad embarrassed about that, espcially if the reason for it came to light too!!! Doesn't mean she'd DO anything though, it happened pretty darn publicly!
So, for me and my toons Hikari, anything that goes on in a public place I consider fair game. Anything you come accross from other sources, could get a letter of complaint to the paper. BUT, it will always be IC...
@FloatingFatMan
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
i think the problem here is micommunication.
Stef - Anything i've said about Liz that could be construed as insulting was actually me messing around. In the same kind of way that when people make jokes about dark 'loving' corpses, i dont take offence to it. Or when people make jokes about Sameris age. I know people were only messing around, and everyone's been involved in one type of 'insult' to Dark minimum.
I find that when people want to insult the player, they insult the player or the way they play. All i can see on this thread is people messing about, making fun of each others characters in a way that friends do.
Just hope all of this gets sorted as soon as possible.
I consider the statue and PDP to be fair game, if I see something happening there, or you post a summary on the GG thread, don't be too surprised if it appears.
Offscreen but still public locations - well, the chance of me actually seeing them is slim, but the chance of someone seeing is high. Kissing on a bridge in Founders Falls for example. If you do "scandolous" things under those circumstances, I'd love a quick "outsiders perspective", just in case there's space in the paper.
Offscreen and private, like peoples homes... that's where I'd expect a lot of IC (and possibly OC) complaints. Most people are in odd interdimensional spaces anyway, so it's not really an issue. It's very hard to justify knowing what goes on behind closed doors, and you'd know if anything like that was comming, simply because the only person with enough info to write an article like that is...you.
If anyone has a problem with any article inolving their character, OOC, then email the paper and I'll remove or alter the article.
If anyone has a problem IC then feel free to write letters to the editor. I did say the paper wouldn't always be accurate IC
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just not feeling it atm?
will you still be about in game though?
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This is the first time I've read the forums since Friday. I logged into CoH once over the weekend, to quit out of GGOOC. If I am in-game, I won't be teaming and none of my characters you may see in-game will be IC.
Unfortunately, I still can't find anything I like playing as much as CoH, so unless I get a life, I likely will be in-game. I've simply had enough of GG and its associated grief for now.
Disclaimer: The above may be humerous, or at least may be an attempt at humour. Try reading it that way.
Posts are OOC unless noted to be IC, or in an IC thread.
So, where's Issue 5 then?
@FloatingFatMan
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
Ummm...yeah....
Look! A kitten!
/me runs for cover
Seriously, Issue 5 and Issue 6 will be up "Soon"
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Seriously, Issue 5 and Issue 6 will be up "Soon"
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OK.... Who kidnapped Hikari and replaced her with Bridger in drag?
@FloatingFatMan
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
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Seriously, Issue 5 and Issue 6 will be up "Soon"
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OK.... Who kidnapped Hikari and replaced her with Bridger in drag?
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AGHHH...MENTAL SCARS!!!
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Okay, boys, I'd like to make a statement here, for the simple fact that you chose to once more ridicule my character. I do not wish to have any retaliations, if I do, I will poison your food. ;-)
Please be so kind as to refrain from mocking my character any further in public, it's starting to get on my nerves, and I doubt anyone would like to have one of theirs dragged through the mud. :-)
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Well Stef, you're kind of evoking a response with that post. You're basically asking for one set of rules to apply to your character and a different set for other people's.
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No, she's asking you to raise concerns about how she plays her character with her privately before airing them in a public forum. Frankly, I agree with her, this isn't the time or the place for these discussions. You live in the same house as her, give her the courtsey to wait 6 hours and then discuss these issues, if you feel they are issues, face to face.
From a personal point of view, and carefully leaving my personal viewpoint on Liz out of it, this isn't something I want to read, feel is relavent to this thread, and *is* insulting to both Liz and Stef as a person.
Bridger, I consider this thread off-topic, and request that if it does not return to topic - that being the paper, not the actions of characters mentioned in passing in it - then it be moderated or locked.
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1: You wrote the article, therefore putting your own character in the public eye as regards the forums. It is bound to lead to commentary. Yes, the article was about Doctor Temporis, but because of his relationship with Shadow's Grace, no comments made about him can avoid bringing about comments on her.
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For the record, Stef had no input on this article beyond an IC kiss in a public place, detailed on local. Neither did Doc. The article was written by me, based entirely on what occured in local chat channels, and is entirely IC. It may not be completely factual, and represents the view of it's author, the same as any RL paper gossip article.
From my point of view, if you RP'd it in local, in my hearing, then it is viable for the paper. If two characters have a fight at the statue, there will probably be an article, and I probably won't ask direct permission of those involved. If anyone has a problem with that, feel free to PM me or email the paper.
Or indeed, air it here, I'd consider a debate over whether RP implies consent for an IC publiciation a perfectly on-topic thing.