I for one dont find this scenario funny in any way, I am also not entirely sure that laughing at someones misfortune is a particularly healthy attitude to ahve on PVP (or for that matter in anything) Getting debt and indeed receiving it as a result of PVP is inevitable in the zones but I suspect the person was just a little frustrated at unwlecome debt and I can imagine a vast majority of people would respond in the same way, its akin to saying "crap" when you catch your finger in a door.
No it wasnt your fault and I am sure she didnt really blame you, shes a person like all others on the game and I feel a little compassion on your part for what is a genuine inconvieniance would ahve been more in order than crowing and laughing at someones misfortune. I can only hope that you didnt broadcast your amusement over chat as this would be a very fast way to lose popularity amongst people on both sides in the pvp zones.
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Well whats the point in laughing at someone if they can't hear you?
I found it amazingly funny and I've still got a big daft grin on my face when typing this.
@Sweet Chilli
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I for one dont find this scenario funny in any way, I am also not entirely sure that laughing at someones misfortune is a particularly healthy attitude to ahve on PVP (or for that matter in anything) Getting debt and indeed receiving it as a result of PVP is inevitable in the zones but I suspect the person was just a little frustrated at unwlecome debt and I can imagine a vast majority of people would respond in the same way, its akin to saying "[censored]" when you catch your finger in a door.
No it wasnt your fault and I am sure she didnt really blame you, shes a person like all others on the game and I feel a little compassion on your part for what is a genuine inconvieniance would ahve been more in order than crowing and laughing at someones misfortune. I can only hope that you didnt broadcast your amusement over chat as this would be a very fast way to lose popularity amongst people on both sides in the pvp zones.
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I agree with botty. Might not have been your fault directly but no need to laugh at someones misfortune
Thanks for reminding me why I only pvp with my friends.
Yes but at the same time, saying "thanks for the debt" is very much the same as accusing someone as being reckless and causing other people debt. If someone causes themselves debt, and points the finger at someone else, im not about to leave the subject untouched.
Why?
I dont like being made out to be a careless debt-giver.
Just as much as there is no need to laugh at someones misfortune, there is no need to broadcast anything about someone else getting you into debt, when you were the one who was at fault. Laughing at someone who got themselves into debt and tried to shift the blame to you, is the lesser of the two evils (the other one being broadcasting the accusation untruthfully). Frustration is a given, but it doesnt give you a reasonable excuse to use certain kinds of behaviour.
Here is another example. A certain villain who doesnt have hero chat on, decided to use a hold (or was it a -fly/immob?) on me, whilst I was battling NPCs. Thats fine, I thought. This kind of thing has to be expected. Only, when the enemy didnt follow up with attacks, I got annoyed. I figured he must be trying to get me into debt, seeing as the two hewer elites (and some warrior minion) had surrounded me, and all that he was using was a hold.. hovering a way above me..
So, after I got debt, I went back out there and tore him apart (in-game), which was followed straight after by some random insult directed at me. I was annoyed, but it was no big deal. Then I bring my alt (a fire/fire blaster) into SC a week later, and on the way to a mission, I see this same person, only on the floor, facing a wall, doing nothing, with a hewer elite hacking at his side. Lagged out? Maybe. I figured i'd help out, so I aggro the Hewer Elite and start to take him out. I barely got off a fire-blast and a blaze, when said villain turns around still in red health, runs up to the hewer elite, brawls him once, then gets his head removed... placed into debt.
This was followed by a broadcast :
"Sure are a lot of idiots on tonight"
I couldnt help but laugh. Only, he doesnt have hero chat on, so I couldnt say something about how karma is a female dog. When he ran back to the very same spot, presumably to take 'revenge' on me for trying to save him from debt, I handed his rear end to him. After which, he left the zone. Sometimes, people who behave like that, annoy the hell out of me. They land themselves into debt, in the most emptyminded way, then they say other people did it.
So, if you insist on running away from a fight, if you dive head-first into NPC's, dont blame your attacker unless they forced you into the mob, or held you there. Although I havent done it very often, there have been times i've set myself up as a really easy target, simply to prevent the ENEMY from getting debt. Why? I hate debt myself. If I see a fight going on with NPC's circling, i'll hold the NPCs or engage them myself. If im fighting someone and there are NPC's joining in, i'll disengage, or if im playing my controller, i'll make sure I keep locking down the NPC's as top priority. Yeah, when I do this it means I get demolished, usually. But it would be really nice if when I get debt in place of someone else, because im covering their mistakes/risktakin, it would be really nice if someone said "thanks" once in a blue moon :P
I'm forever managing to get debt in PvP zones, including one a couple of days ago where I cunningly decided to have a bit of a break by resting in the middle of a big group of Arachnos, who would protect me. It would have worked better if I wasn't playing my PB at the time.
When I'm fighting a PC and a mob wanders past and decides to get involved/the flow of the fight takes us into a spawn, and I die, I usually bung out a broadcast accusing the mob of killstealing and depriving my opponent of their hard-earned bounty.
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Yes but at the same time, saying "thanks for the debt" is very much the same as accusing someone as being reckless and causing other people debt. If someone causes themselves debt, and points the finger at someone else, im not about to leave the subject untouched.
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Totally agree with you there. I hate people who say things like that to me. If you get killed by an NPC, that's just tough luck - it's one of the risks of the PvP zones. Don't like it? Then stick to the arena.
In this case especially, if the person was running away and got themselves killed and then actually blamed me, I'd probably have a chuckle to myself as well.
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Yes but at the same time, saying "thanks for the debt" is very much the same as accusing someone as being reckless and causing other people debt. If someone causes themselves debt, and points the finger at someone else, im not about to leave the subject untouched.
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Umm remember some time ago we were fighting in the sky near Talos park and my impale dropped you into a mob of Tsoo? I can vividly remember words along the line of "thanks for the debt" which were simple frustration and I knew this in the same way you know I wouldnt ever intentionally cause you debt.
I too am guilty of the "thanks for the debt" line but is usually followed by "it happens". I have also caused debt and accrued it by saving enemies but I have never laughed at anyones misfortunes, its just weak imo, Im better than that.
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Yes but at the same time, saying "thanks for the debt" is very much the same as accusing someone as being reckless and causing other people debt. If someone causes themselves debt, and points the finger at someone else, im not about to leave the subject untouched.
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Umm remember some time ago we were fighting in the sky near Talos park and my impale dropped you into a mob of Tsoo? I can vividly remember words along the line of "thanks for the debt" which were simple frustration and I knew this in the same way you know I wouldnt ever intentionally cause you debt.
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The difference was, this was debt directly caused by your action, not mine 
I had actually mistaken you for another villain, who had got me into no less than 40+k of debt due to really silly mistakes, involving immobs/-flys and NPCs. If you also recall, I apologised to you after that line, because as a result of the debt and my reply to it, we were on the verge of spitting fire (it wasnt a very good night, a load of jerks were around on both sides).
The point is, if you actually cause someone debt, be it by complete mistake, or due to a major slip-up in targetting/timing/powerchoice etc.. then you have to expect it in some form. However, if the other person inflicted the debt upon themselves, then makes it out as if you did it, it annoys.
I suppose its just the nature of the PVP beast, frustration and annoyance go hand in hand with it.
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I too am guilty of the "thanks for the debt" line but is usually followed by "it happens". I have also caused debt and accrued it by saving enemies but I have never laughed at anyones misfortunes, its just weak imo, Im better than that.
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To tell the truth, i've never laughed, but I never let it slip if they accuse me of something I didnt do. If I did it, I accept it. Unless there are a lot of PVPers around with bad attitudes, im not nearly as intense towards people. A simple apology in local-chat, or even broadcast, normally goes a long way to stopping a fight. Every time i've seen someone get in debt, even if I wasnt involved, I say something like "Ouch, unlucky there".
Mood plays a large part in how fast things get out of hand, but I guess with the amount of stuff people tolerate, it only takes the occasional misworded line to push things over the edge. I guess all im saying is, if someone tries to hold you responsible for something you didnt do, you're entitled to chuckle it off.
At the end of the day, no discussion will beat the fact, that a little common respect for your fellow gamers will stop most arguements in their tracks. At least, with gamers worth keeping OFF the ignore list, that is
On another note, I just realised I need to see my doctor. I have a babbling problem. Hope she can subscribe some kind of cream for it. It reminds me of back in WW2...
The other night I started blasting with my PB at a villain in Sirens Call. Tigrus of Darkness or something like that. She was a mastermind I think. Almost as soon as I strated blasting her, she started to jump away. I had her down to a sliver of her health though. Unfortunately for her, with that sliver, she managed to jump into a mob somewhere a few hundered yards away.
She then sends a broadcast saying thanks for the 10k debt.
I am wetting myself laughing at this point. And shout back that it wasn't my fault she ran. Wasn't my fault she had an unsafe travel power. Wasn't my fault she couldn't take care of herself.
Just so funny, I had to share.
@Sweet Chilli