United We Stand (PvP Call)

well may as well get the fightin' talk going i suppose..

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Team 1
Tanker - Max Powerz
Scrapper - Chives
Blaster - Bitter Ice
Blaster - NeoArc
Defender - Stryker
Defender - Freyr
Controller - Purple Hazel
Controller - X44

Team 2
Tanker - Still in need of a stone tanker anyone know anyone?
Scrapper - SGT.
Blaster - Synaesthetix
Blaster - Uncle Al
Defender - Tremulous
Defender - Shaman X
Controller - Zim (Gatling)
Controller - Subconscious



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Team 1 is going to pwn joo! innit.

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well may as well get the fightin' talk going i suppose..

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Team 1
Tanker - Max Powerz
Scrapper - Chives
Blaster - Bitter Ice
Blaster - NeoArc
Defender - Stryker
Defender - Freyr
Controller - Purple Hazel
Controller - X44

Team 2
Tanker - Still in need of a stone tanker anyone know anyone?
Scrapper - SGT.
Blaster - Synaesthetix
Blaster - Uncle Al
Defender - Tremulous
Defender - Shaman X
Controller - Zim (Gatling)
Controller - Subconscious



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Team 1 is going to pwn joo! innit.

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think we're fighting together just u have to be in 2 teams of 8 but just for reference....team 2 wud pwn team 1

I'll be there, best to make it a weekly event too? every wednesday at 8:30ish?

ill try to remember next wensday to be there in case tremmy cant make it

-alex hunt-

No disrespect to any peeps i know, but ive got to say I reckon invul tanks are now the tank of choice followed closely by ice tanks.

Fire tanks, forget it these days. Only two shields, that have been nerfed through ED, mean you are the easiest of tanks to toggle drop. No power in the set gives knockdown resistance meaning you HAVE to take acrobatics. Finally there is no panic button, just a useless self res, which youll be doing a lot against a half decent team.

Stone, excellent tanking, best for pure punishment taking-ness, but too slow without a speed boost. Also not being able to toggle drop granite ( cept with holds ) is nice.

Invul, good overall survivability, plus whats sets them apart for group matches is unyeilding. Ie not thrown back by hurricane/bubbles, and resistant to tk too. Also having a panic button, unlike fire, that cant be toggle dropped, is a must.

Ice, this set has come into its own these days, and ice has an excellent panic button in hibernate. The ability of trollers to severely drop defense with autohit poers like radiation infection makes me wonder how good theyll be in pvp teams.

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...but just for reference....team 2 wud pwn team 1

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your mamma knows a winner when she sees one..



thats why shes cheerleading for team 1.

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Only two shields, that have been nerfed through ED, mean you are the easiest of tanks to toggle drop.

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1) All shields for all Tanks were affected by ED - it's just that Fire Tanks had lower resistances to start with that causes them problems.

2) Actually, it's just as "easy" to toggle-drop an Inv tank - both Fire and Inv have three toggles to run in their primary (Fire Shield, Plasma Shield, Blaing Aura / Temp Invul, Unyielding, Invincibility). Seeing as Fire usually pick up one more toggle in Acrobatics, that means they're usually less simple to toggle-drop in combat, although both can be supplemented by running Combat Jumping and Sprint/PPS/PPQ. Note: I'm not trying to say that this makes Fire Tanks any more survivable than Inv Tanks, but they are statistically no more easy to detoggle (although having mez-resistance spread across multiple shields is both an advantage and a disadvantage). Don't forget that detoggling is an issue that's being looked into at the moment.

im with seri on this, fire is just not very good in pvp (nor pve but thats a different story :P)

i recall going in pvp one time and being able to toggle drop a firetankers shield with stuns easily (em/dark brute myself)

where i couldnt toggledrop an invul, nor a granite

also when their end gets drained, fire tanks have to reactivate 3 toggles to make sure they wont get held/stunned/knocked down where invul, ice and earth only need 1

ice would seem nice, as defense has gotten better, but then there are still the nasty autohit toggles

-alex hunt-

I'll be there, usually play with stryker and x44, but i'm not fussed who i play with. I can adapt

Team 2 > Team 1

Sarge

Tank Primary doesn't matter (With the exception of Stone Tanks, they're poo), if anything the secondary matters most. They just need to be a little Tougher than everyone else. I don't know about you lot, but if I was facing a team with an Inv tank, my last target would be the Inv Tank. Same goes for a team with an Ice or a Fire. Same even for Stone, but Stone is easy to get away from.

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I'll be there, usually play with stryker and x44, but i'm not fussed who i play with. I can adapt

Team 2 > Team 1

Sarge

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Yeah i realised that but i have a secret mission for you.

Secret mission eh how exciting will he be joining the mythical "3rd" team, featuring Cherry Fusion, Mimic, Seiche, and Cherry Drops
Always keep em guessing

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Tank Primary doesn't matter (With the exception of Stone Tanks, they're poo), if anything the secondary matters most. They just need to be a little Tougher than everyone else. I don't know about you lot, but if I was facing a team with an Inv tank, my last target would be the Inv Tank. Same goes for a team with an Ice or a Fire. Same even for Stone, but Stone is easy to get away from.

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summed up brilliantly, fire has the extra BU, invul has the knockback res, ice has the def. the secondary is far more important tho, x-plosive played in two 8v8 matches last night and got join top kills with a couple of blasters with the help of 2 BU's, enrgy transfer and total focus didnt die once either cos as hobo said no1 targets the tank, personally i think invul is the best for pvp but all the tank primaries have advantages apart from stone (unless theres a kin on the team)

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I'll be there, usually play with stryker and x44, but i'm not fussed who i play with. I can adapt

Team 2 > Team 1

Sarge

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Yeah i realised that but i have a secret mission for you.

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the secret mission is being on the best team for a change

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i recall going in pvp one time and being able to toggle drop a firetankers shield with stuns easily (em/dark brute myself)

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It's easier to drop toggles with brawl (EM/Fire Brute), and more reliable (can't be stopped by pesky external mez-protection).

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also when their end gets drained, fire tanks have to reactivate 3 toggles to make sure they wont get held/stunned/knocked down where invul, ice and earth only need 1

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But Fire Tanks can hit Consume to regain their lost endurance. And technically they only need to pop a breakfree and activate one toggle to make sure they won't get mezzed/knocked down, but we're picking hairs here.

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well may as well get the fightin' talk going i suppose..

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Team 1
Tanker - Max Powerz
Scrapper - Chives
Blaster - Bitter Ice
Blaster - NeoArc
Defender - Stryker
Defender - Freyr
Controller - Purple Hazel
Controller - X44

Team 2
Tanker - Still in need of a stone tanker anyone know anyone?
Scrapper - SGT.
Blaster - Synaesthetix
Blaster - Uncle Al
Defender - Tremulous
Defender - Shaman X
Controller - Zim (Gatling)
Controller - Subconscious



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Team 1 is going to pwn joo! innit.

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think we're fighting together just u have to be in 2 teams of 8 but just for reference....team 2 wud pwn team 1

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Team 2 would win easy i reckon. A big bubble,a hurricane, and an empath is just about the best defence you can get. will team 1 be fighting team 2 for practice on wednesday?

Mostly be facing each other in practice yeah.

Looking forward to next Wednesday already

I'll be up for a team at some point in the future folks with sweet chilli. Though I need a free respec to come along, I don't mind dying a few times before I get it...

KS - As I mentioned in game next week is a bad week for me as I have to do a 2pm-10pm shift to cover just in case anything goes wrong with the new system/it's users.

Due to travel I won't be home till about 11pm.

Hopefully next week will be the only week I have to do that shift and from then I will be back on 6am-2pm / 10am-6pm shifts.

Looking forward to some more PvP. After Mondays stint on test I feel alot more comfortable with Trem and his abilities and the team we had was perfect as we mostly knew each other and our abilities/play styles.

Team 1 doesn't stand a chance btw

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KS - As I mentioned in game next week is a bad week for me as I have to do a 2pm-10pm shift to cover just in case anything goes wrong with the new system/it's users.

Due to travel I won't be home till about 11pm.

Hopefully next week will be the only week I have to do that shift and from then I will be back on 6am-2pm / 10am-6pm shifts.

Looking forward to some more PvP. After Mondays stint on test I feel alot more comfortable with Trem and his abilities and the team we had was perfect as we mostly knew each other and our abilities/play styles.

Team 1 doesn't stand a chance btw

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good lad awesome having a good bubbler on the team (remembers the days of cherry drops in sirens )

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And technically they only need to pop a breakfree and activate one toggle to make sure they won't get mezzed/knocked down, but we're picking hairs here.

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if your talking about acrobatics, player cast holds will overcome its hold protection in one hit. my defender with acrobatics got one hit held by seismic smash (stone mellee) i recon its mag 3?

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i just found out it is mag 4, but still in pvp acrobatics isnt a reliable hold protection i have found out
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-alex hunt-

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pop a breakfree

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That's your hold protection, Acro is your KB protection.

It seems we are down 2 players so far for wednesday but we shall continue anything that we will go through i will make sure the others find out.
Syn is right as a Blaster/Defender/Troller BF's are your best defence to hold/immobs so forth other than having a personal Empath or Kin Assistant.

KS, it might be a good idea to invite everyone to a chat channel. Be a good way to talk as a team and for people to put forward ideas and ask questions.