Don't have ice dom myself, but have seen cynic use them both fairly effectively, So I'd suggest both at least if you melee.
Chilling embrace and AA stacked slow things to a crawl, add Jack Frost to that, his chilling embrace.......... its pretty much as slow as you can make things.
I sometimes dont run AA, cause it has a larger AoE and can grab agro when you dont want it, but you're safe with CE running.
I like CE, it helps me impose my will on others
"Well, they found my diary today.
They were appropriately appalled
at the discovery of the eight victims
They're now putting it all together.
Women wrapped in silk
with one leg missing
Eight legs, one body, silk,
spider, brilliant!"
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Chilling embrace and AA stacked slow things to a crawl, add Jack Frost to that, his chilling embrace.......... its pretty much as slow as you can make things.
I sometimes dont run AA, cause it has a larger AoE and can grab agro when you dont want it, but you're safe with CE running.
I like CE, it helps me impose my will on others
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thx 
... take it, its useful in PvP for the -Slow and -Recharge reason :P ... How would I slot it 3 end reduce?
If we're talking pvp here I have found AA very useful against stalkers: -stealth means I usually spot them in plenty of time for some dominating 
because i am Ice/fire i have no CE experience but I imagine the two would work well together in that situation.
AA neads 3 endrec, and you might want to put in fear or confuse durations as well, but CE is fine with just 1 endrec, its not that expensive a toggle.
I really should do something about this signature.
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AA neads 3 endrec, and you might want to put in fear or confuse durations as well, but CE is fine with just 1 endrec, its not that expensive a toggle.
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Cool already got AA 6 slotted 3 endrec and 3 confuse works great.
I have CE with 3 end red, I hardly notice its on, but then I have a very end heavy build, and every little helps.
The only thing I'd put in AA other than end red is confuse, which you have done, well worth it. Not in mine atm, but it is planned for when the 40-50 range opens and I get a free slot or two (I hope)
"Well, they found my diary today.
They were appropriately appalled
at the discovery of the eight victims
They're now putting it all together.
Women wrapped in silk
with one leg missing
Eight legs, one body, silk,
spider, brilliant!"
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I have CE with 3 end red, I hardly notice its on, but then I have a very end heavy build, and every little helps.
The only thing I'd put in AA other than end red is confuse, which you have done, well worth it. Not in mine atm, but it is planned for when the 40-50 range opens and I get a free slot or two (I hope)
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yeah, Ice/Ice seems to use alot of end I repeat like 2 attackes over and my holds and still mange to run out of end :P the Ice Blasts and my Ice Block ... did you take hasten at all ? since I just got glacier and it takes FOREVER!!! to recharge
01 : Ice Bolt acc(01)
01 : Block of Ice acc(01) hlddur(3) hlddur(3) hlddur(5) recred(17) recred(37)
02 : Ice Sword acc(02) dam(15) dam(15) dam(17) recred(37)
04 : Ice Sword Circle acc(04) dam(5) dam(9) dam(9) endred(11) recred(11)
06 : Arctic Air endred(06) endred(7) endred(7)
08 : Hurdle jmp(08)
10 : Combat Jumping jmp(10)
12 : Ice Slick recred(12) recred(13) recred(13)
14 : Super Jump jmp(14)
16 : Health hel(16)
18 : Hasten recred(18) recred(19) recred(19)
20 : Stamina endrec(20) endrec(21) endrec(21)
22 : Power Boost recred(22) recred(23) recred(23)
24 : Frost Breath acc(24) dam(25) dam(25) dam(27) endred(40) recred(40)
26 : Glacier acc(26) acc(27) hlddur(29) hlddur(29) recred(31) recred(34)
28 : Chilling Embrace endred(28) endred(31) endred(31)
30 : Ice Blast acc(30)
32 : Jack Frost acc(32) dam(33) dam(33) dam(33) hlddur(34) hlddur(34)
35 : Greater Ice Sword acc(35) dam(36) dam(36) dam(36) recred(37)
38 : Bitter Ice Blast acc(38) dam(39) dam(39) dam(39) recred(40)
Mostly I cycle the two swords and the two AoEs, hence the slotting.
Hasten I dont tend to use all the time, but always when Domination is close to being ready, and it gets that last bit quicker.
Power Boost and Glacier make it a usable combo. With hasten and power boost EB's are fairly easy to keep held, AV's are possible, but only just, so Domination is normally required.
Jack Frost actually helps with end, cause if he's got some of the agro I dont tend to worry about that and just focus on the group I'm dealing with. I like dumping him on bosses so that I only need one hold to mez them (I'll resummon him if I need to place him)
"Well, they found my diary today.
They were appropriately appalled
at the discovery of the eight victims
They're now putting it all together.
Women wrapped in silk
with one leg missing
Eight legs, one body, silk,
spider, brilliant!"
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01 : Ice Bolt acc(01)
01 : Block of Ice acc(01) hlddur(3) hlddur(3) hlddur(5) recred(17) recred(37)
02 : Ice Sword acc(02) dam(15) dam(15) dam(17) recred(37)
04 : Ice Sword Circle acc(04) dam(5) dam(9) dam(9) endred(11) recred(11)
06 : Arctic Air endred(06) endred(7) endred(7)
08 : Hurdle jmp(08)
10 : Combat Jumping jmp(10)
12 : Ice Slick recred(12) recred(13) recred(13)
14 : Super Jump jmp(14)
16 : Health hel(16)
18 : Hasten recred(18) recred(19) recred(19)
20 : Stamina endrec(20) endrec(21) endrec(21)
22 : Power Boost recred(22) recred(23) recred(23)
24 : Frost Breath acc(24) dam(25) dam(25) dam(27) endred(40) recred(40)
26 : Glacier acc(26) acc(27) hlddur(29) hlddur(29) recred(31) recred(34)
28 : Chilling Embrace endred(28) endred(31) endred(31)
30 : Ice Blast acc(30)
32 : Jack Frost acc(32) dam(33) dam(33) dam(33) hlddur(34) hlddur(34)
35 : Greater Ice Sword acc(35) dam(36) dam(36) dam(36) recred(37)
38 : Bitter Ice Blast acc(38) dam(39) dam(39) dam(39) recred(40)
Mostly I cycle the two swords and the two AoEs, hence the slotting.
Hasten I dont tend to use all the time, but always when Domination is close to being ready, and it gets that last bit quicker.
Power Boost and Glacier make it a usable combo. With hasten and power boost EB's are fairly easy to keep held, AV's are possible, but only just, so Domination is normally required.
Jack Frost actually helps with end, cause if he's got some of the agro I dont tend to worry about that and just focus on the group I'm dealing with. I like dumping him on bosses so that I only need one hold to mez them (I'll resummon him if I need to place him)
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Gone for using up close attacks ??? my build atm I'm using ranged and hold, here is what I plan to be by the time i'm 40
01) --> Block of Ice==> Hold(1) Hold(3) Acc(3) Acc(5) Rechg(31)
01) --> Ice Bolt==> Dmg(1) Dmg(5) Acc(9) Acc(9)
02) --> Ice Sword==> Dmg(2) Dmg(11) Acc(13) Acc(25)
04) --> Ice Sword Circle==> Dmg(4) Dmg(11) Acc(13) Acc(23) Dmg(25)
06) --> Arctic Air==> EndRdx(6) EndRdx(7) EndRdx(7)
08) --> Hurdle==> Jump(8) Jump(34)
10) --> Recall Friend==> IntRdx(10)
12) --> Ice Slick==> Rechg(12) Rechg(15) Rechg(15)
14) --> Teleport==> Range(14) Range(37) EndRdx(37)
16) --> Health==> Heal(16) Heal(17) Heal(17)
18) --> Ice Blast==> Dmg(18) Dmg(19) Acc(19) Acc(23)
20) --> Stamina==> EndMod(20) EndMod(21) EndMod(21)
22) --> Power Boost==> Rechg(22) Rechg(40)
24) --> Combat Jumping==> Jump(24) Jump(37)
26) --> Glacier==> Hold(26) Hold(27) Rechg(27) Rechg(31) Acc(31)
28) --> Chilling Embrace==> EndRdx(28) EndRdx(29) EndRdx(29)
30) --> Teleport Foe==> Acc(30) Range(40)
32) --> Jack Frost==> Acc(32) Dmg(33) Dmg(33) Dmg(33) Hold(34) Hold(34)
35) --> Greater Ice Sword==> Dmg(35) Dmg(36) Dmg(36) Acc(36)
38) --> Bitter Ice Blast==> Dmg(38) Dmg(39) Dmg(39) Acc(39) Rechg(40)
never played a controller or a dom before so I hope its good 
Can see the benefit of TP, putting Jack next to foes will help.
Gone for melee cause of Glacier, AA, CE all being PBAoE, also can chain the swords and bitter ice blast for good effect, and Frost Breath catches more up close...... Ice Sword Circle........... I just find it easier to hit the better powers in melee.
Might consider dropping jumping for TP. Dont know though, a TPing wolf doesn't seem right, a leaping one seems fine.
"Well, they found my diary today.
They were appropriately appalled
at the discovery of the eight victims
They're now putting it all together.
Women wrapped in silk
with one leg missing
Eight legs, one body, silk,
spider, brilliant!"
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Can see the benefit of TP, putting Jack next to foes will help.
Gone for melee cause of Glacier, AA, CE all being PBAoE, also can chain the swords and bitter ice blast for good effect, and Frost Breath catches more up close...... Ice Sword Circle........... I just find it easier to hit the better powers in melee.
Might consider dropping jumping for TP. Dont know though, a TPing wolf doesn't seem right, a leaping one seems fine.
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HeHe I hate TP for PvP which is why I'm getting Combat Jump and Hurdle so I can travel still I like my swords but don't use them atm prolly will when I get jack
When you have three you can shrug off the draw time easy enough. Greater Ice Sword is the nicest damage you'll get, thus the best way of building domination
"Well, they found my diary today.
They were appropriately appalled
at the discovery of the eight victims
They're now putting it all together.
Women wrapped in silk
with one leg missing
Eight legs, one body, silk,
spider, brilliant!"
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When you have three you can shrug off the draw time easy enough. Greater Ice Sword is the nicest damage you'll get, thus the best way of building domination
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meh that I've still got a way togo yet
I've already taken Arctic Air but I was wondering if it is worth taking Chilling Embrace also