Anyone able to help an old timer?


Chaplain_EU

 

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Sorry for being really lazy but having been away for six months, Prize is still in Issue 4 build.

I just want to get back into playing the game, and can't be dealing with number crunching at the moment, so is there anyone out there who can help me with slotting Inv/SS with Speed, Fitness, Stealth, Energy Mastery pools?


 

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Hey Prize, good to see you around again. Mbar seems to have a very functional Inv build if you want to grab that from him. SS should be straightforward - just no more than three of the same SO in any power. Look out for the Taunt changes since you last tanked - there's a limit as to how many enemies you can hold the aggro of now (17 according to the boards although I still have a sneaking feeling that may have been increased slightly in a stealth patch)


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Howler Monkey

 

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People build differently because they dont play the same so for now i'd say if you have more than 3 slots of something delete the excess, go play your tank, and then aside from any needs from wanting those slots back decide for yourself what otherways you can add to your survivability and to that of the team you are tanking for.
Then propose a build with powers that work for you and your idea of slotting and maybe people can say things like "its better to have an end rec and a dam res instead of having an extra 2defs in combat jump" type thing and why.


He will honor his words; he will definitely carry out his actions. What he promises he will fulfill. He does not care about his bodily self, putting his life and death aside to come forward for another's troubled besiegement. He does not boast about his ability, or shamelessly extol his own virtues. - Sima Qian.

 

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This is the thread I made while discussing the build for my Inv/SS and the reasoning behind it, but as a rule of thumb, avoid any SO after the 3rd of the same type, forget Perma-Hasten, Perma Dull Pain, 6 slotted health and herding(you can't aggro no more than 17 foes at any given time)..


 

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Welcome back


 

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Then propose a build with powers that work for you and your idea of slotting and maybe people can say things like "its better to have an end rec and a dam res instead of having an extra 2defs in combat jump" type thing and why.

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uh-oh typo i meant to say "its better to have an end rec and a dam res added in unstoppable instead of having an extra 2defs in combat jump" type thing and why.


He will honor his words; he will definitely carry out his actions. What he promises he will fulfill. He does not care about his bodily self, putting his life and death aside to come forward for another's troubled besiegement. He does not boast about his ability, or shamelessly extol his own virtues. - Sima Qian.

 

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Then propose a build with powers that work for you and your idea of slotting and maybe people can say things like "its better to have an end rec and a dam res instead of having an extra 2defs in combat jump" type thing and why.

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uh-oh typo i meant to say "its better to have an end rec and a dam res added in unstoppable instead of having an extra 2defs in combat jump" type thing and why.

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Providing the two extra slots in Combat Jumping were available after selecting Unstoppable, of course .


 

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Sorry for being really lazy but having been away for six months, Prize is still in Issue 4 build.

I just want to get back into playing the game, and can't be dealing with number crunching at the moment, so is there anyone out there who can help me with slotting Inv/SS with Speed, Fitness, Stealth, Energy Mastery pools?

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Stealth? STEALTH!?!? What kind of Tank are you anyway!?!?!

Oh, yes, the non-squishy kind ...

Hang on, I'll get a build posted for Invuln at least.


 

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This is not MBar's current build, but its the one I'd respec into, if I had one. Well, very nearly, I've got a couple of Hami-O's to whack in there yet.

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Exported from Ver: 1.7.5.0 of the CoH_CoV Character Builder - (http://home.comcast.net/~SherkSilver/index.html)
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Name: MBar
Level: 50
Archetype: Tanker
Primary: Invulnerability
Secondary: Energy Melee
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01) --> Temp Invulnerability==> EndRdx(1) EndRdx(40) DmgRes(46) DmgRes(46) DmgRes(46)
01) --> Barrage==> Acc(1) Acc(34) Dmg(37) Dmg(40) Dmg(43)
02) --> Energy Punch==> Acc(2) Acc(3) Dmg(3) Dmg(9) Dmg(11)
04) --> Resist Physical Damage==> DmgRes(4) DmgRes(5) DmgRes(5)
06) --> Dull Pain==> Heal(6) Heal(7) Heal(7) Rechg(11) Rechg(15) Rechg(15)
08) --> Unyielding==> EndRdx(8) EndRdx(9) DmgRes(17) DmgRes(17) DmgRes(37)
10) --> Swift==> Run(10)
12) --> Combat Jumping==> DefBuf(12) DefBuf(13) DefBuf(13)
14) --> Super Jump==> Jump(14)
16) --> Whirling Hands==> Acc(16) Acc(21) Dmg(21) Dmg(23) Dmg(23)
18) --> Invincibility==> EndRdx(18) EndRdx(19) DefBuf(19) DefBuf(33) DefBuf(34) Taunt(34)
20) --> Health==> Heal(20) Heal(43) Heal(43)
22) --> Stamina==> EndMod(22) EndMod(45) EndMod(45)
24) --> Taunt==> Taunt(24) Taunt(25) Taunt(25) Rechg(31) Rechg(33) Rechg(33)
26) --> Resist Energies==> DmgRes(26) DmgRes(27) DmgRes(27)
28) --> Resist Elements==> DmgRes(28) DmgRes(29) DmgRes(29)
30) --> Tough Hide==> DefBuf(30) DefBuf(31) DefBuf(31)
32) --> Unstoppable==> Rechg(32) Rechg(42) Rechg(45)
35) --> Energy Transfer==> Acc(35) Acc(36) Dmg(36) Dmg(36) Dmg(37)
38) --> Total Focus==> Acc(38) Acc(39) Dmg(39) Dmg(39) Dmg(40)
41) --> Conserve Power==> Rechg(41) Rechg(42) Rechg(42)
44) --> Boxing==> Acc(44)
47) --> Tough==> EndRdx(47) EndRdx(48) DmgRes(48) DmgRes(48) DmgRes(50)
49) --> Build Up==> Rechg(49) Rechg(50) Rechg(50)
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01) --> Power Slide==> Run(1)
01) --> Power Quick==> Empty(1)
01) --> Sprint==> Empty(1)
01) --> Brawl==> Acc(1)
01) --> Gauntlet==> Empty(1)
02) --> Rest==> Rechg(2)
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The SS attacks probably use nearly the same slotting, and you'll probably need to screw with the order of powers, but at least it'll show the kind of slotting needed these days.

Stealth could be swapped in for the relatively dedundant Fighting pool. With Tough, S/L Res comes to about 90%, 67% without it.

Final Res levels (taken from Hero Planner):
90.2% Smashing / Lethal
27.5% Fire / Cold / Energy / Negative / Toxic


 

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Look Prize its no use, give it up.... Your gimped. Probably. i have no clue, but frankly there is no chance you'll tank for me, since im too worried youll nip off to mine some copper mid fight... oh wait... wrong game...

Anyway. Good to see you around. I took a tour of paragon last night and was saying to the lads we should do an imba hard TF some time soon.

Chap.


 

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Well after much deliberation and testing, I've decieded to leave Prize's and Dark Wolf's build alone.

I seem to be at Issue 3 defence effectiveness, so I'm leaving both builds as they are.

I jumped into a load of purple mobs, and was able to handle aggro and not take too much damage.

Perhaps Statesman is so relived that I'm back that he's allowed my characters to stay at Issue 3 superdom


 

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are you phaseshifting still?


He will honor his words; he will definitely carry out his actions. What he promises he will fulfill. He does not care about his bodily self, putting his life and death aside to come forward for another's troubled besiegement. He does not boast about his ability, or shamelessly extol his own virtues. - Sima Qian.

 

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Nope haven't used it since I came back


 

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I must admit i thought it a great idea for a toon going from completely hard to completely soft.


He will honor his words; he will definitely carry out his actions. What he promises he will fulfill. He does not care about his bodily self, putting his life and death aside to come forward for another's troubled besiegement. He does not boast about his ability, or shamelessly extol his own virtues. - Sima Qian.