Thoughts on higher level FF powers

Well, I have the 4 bubbles now, and with level 20 coming along I'm turning an eye to the higher level FF powers - I have to say, they don't look very exciting!

My secondary set is Dark, and I've been taking team friendly powers like bestow invisibility, recall friend etc as I like to play my bubbles defensively - she's no offender

I dont really like the look of the repel fields or detention field, and even force bubble looks of little use. Any thoughts from those with experience - are they any good, or has the time come to concentrate on secondary and pool powers bearing in mind I never solo this toon?

But isnt repulsion good?

Looks a bit messy and liable to get up scrappers and tankers' noses... but that's what I'm asking

lol ask the villains in sirens what they think of cherry drops and her bubbles truly deadly if used right, ur pretty mush immortal with bubbles

I agree with x_treme. If an enemys is trying to attack you, it can't coz it gets blown away, but if it's long range then the bubbles provide a defense

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lol ask the villains in sirens what they think of cherry drops and her bubbles truly deadly if used right, ur pretty mush immortal with bubbles

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Bubbles are all well and good but anyone with an empath of your quality nearby is near immortal X

(Please note from here on all information is from my own observations and experience, pvp and the game are an ever changing thing how a power works one day may not be how it works the next, any references to powers are not to be taken as absolute fact but simply as opinion.)
As for the higher level bubbles.
Force Bubble is one of the most equally loved and hated "ultimate" power in the game, tankers and scrappers hate it, but set it off at just the right time and you can save a team, the draw back is it will keep foes out of range of some of your more powerful attacks.
Offender Opinion : Take it, love it, laugh at all the stalkers outside it.
Defender Opinion : Take it if you have space, great emergency power not to be used all the time, blasters can blast from it, controllers controller from it, SR can hide in it once eludes done down, its all things to all people, including very annoying.
Pointless Facts:
1. sup/group invised Illusion controllers who try to enter the bubble will briefly become visible even without additional perception (as of issue 5 not tested since)
2. This power DOES suppress travel if there are any foes in its range.
3. This power could at one point be slotted with accuracy debuffs due to the fact that various AT’s could enter the bubble under certain circumstances, I found no noticeable effect on accuracy whilst slotting this way, and Im not certain that such a slotting option remains.

Force Bomb, recently changed so I cant offer much opinion on it other then to say it knocks back, it detoggles, I think it even stuns, good for pvp perhaps not so much in PvE.
Offender : There are probably better powers out there, worth a look since its change
Defender : Possibly a slot better spent elsewhere.
Pointless Facts :
1. Used to be target able only on ally’s, so useless in a solo defender build but controllers could still use it on pets.
2. used to have a 100% to drop a toggle in pvp upon hit, recently changed I don’t know the new figure.

Repulsion Field, The little brother of force bubble but just for you, it has a few draw backs, it drains end for each time it hits a target so if a foe with knockback resistance stands next to you your end will drain quickly, people can still get in melee range and provided they have knockback resistance they will land a hit. It has a few advantages to, it interrupts stalkers AS in pvp, who doesn’t love to drop into a group of hellions and have em fly off in a matrix-esque burly brawl style scene.
Offender : Preferable to Force bubble more solo friendly.
Defender : Take it if you want it, probably not all that useful since you wont be in range to use it often.
Pointless Facts
1. Can detoggle foes in melee range in PVP.
2. DOES suppress travel powers
3. Can be used to draw a lot of agro off a suffering tank.

Dispersion Field. Take it. Love it.

Detention Field, one of the best kept secrets of the bubblers, imagine a hold that no tank could resist, that bosses fell victim to in one application, and meet detention field, not a true hold in the strictest sense of the world since the foe its applied on can still effect themselves but nobody else, think of it as a forced phase shift great for giving your tank a few extra seconds to allow dull pain to recharge, or for keeping a boss outta action while you clean up the minions. It has a small accuracy bonus so can work straight out of the box, best used with a “xxx is bubbled do not attack” style bind
Offender : Integral to my offending play style, some may not like it try it at least once.
Defender : If you need another defending power imagine how much damage you can prevent by removing someone from a fight for a certain length of time, best used near the start of the site so you don’t give the enemy a safe haven to heal to much.
Pointless Facts
1. Was once able to be used permanently on a single foes, with ED no longer.
2. Really annoys stalkers in pvp when they're lining up a AS
3. Can be stacked on an AV/Monster
4. No need to tank hami if you have enough bubblers DFing him whilst the mitos are getting cleaned
5. A single target (thus slightly more accuracte version of Dark's Black Hole and Gravitys Dimension Shift.

That’s the end of my little tour of high level bubbles, hope you enjoyed your stay, the gift shop is open till 5.

Dispersion is ace of that there's no doubt.

It definitely looks like the higher powers are both blessing and curse though... melee-types hate people flying all over the place, and can be rescued by recall friend as easily as by repulsion...

I'm just disappointed by the duration of detention field in PvP. I've made some test with a friend and it seems to last only 10 seconds, whereas in PvE, it lasts a lot longer :/

Depends on how you use force bubble, in indoor missions it is great, I know a FF defender in our SG has /bind "Hope you like your goons pressed up against the wall folks", cos that is exactly what it does, position yourself so the bulk of the mob hits a wall or a corner and it is great.

Also if the defender doesn't move much it is great, put it on to protect the squishies, the tanks and scrappers can just move to the edge of the bubble and hit from there.

See some love force bubble, some hate it
Just remember some foes can easily walk throu it, and all can under certain cirumstances.

I love repulsion field, it's absolutely great. You can keep mobs pinned with it in PvE and it's pretty usefull in PvP as (mentioned previously) stalkers hate it. Stalkers of course making up a good 90%+ of the villains in Sirens

Repulsion bomb I'm not a fan of really, you could put it on blasters but then they also like to use their melee attacks from time to time so generally I couldn't see myself using it much. I'd rather use the space for a more useful power.

Force bubble I like but it's very situational, I don't use it all that often but I do still love it. Not much help there sorry

Also I would definately recomend Force Bolt and Detention Field. They're great.

Can someone confirm that Force Bolt is a 100 % random detoggle ? When I was doing tests, it seems, for my friend, he has always 1 toggle-drop but a random one. Is it true ?

Bubbles!!!

Love them all!!

Detention field... you have a few pple that'll scream at you when you use it... *shrug* their problem.

I usually use it to keep the boss / lieuts outa action or Sappers... the Nasty things.

Gr8 power, specially when going up agains Nemisis, since most pple just don't listen when you say leave the Lieuts for last 'cause when they drop they give everyone around them Vengence.

Force Bubble, got it, LOVE IT!

Specially when used correctly (and I'm not saying that I do) it can be quite nice, usually when i pull it off nicely in a corner or small room, my immediate type out is.

Wall bash anyone?


It's like TK, just everywhere!
Quite nice to keep squishy's alive with.

Dispersion Bubble.
A bit of a bother keeping the whole team in it, but you manage.
Great on yourself though!
A bubble that affects you! (and you can still do stuff out of)