BS/Regen PvP Build


Captain_Solaris

 

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A Regen with Tough will always beat one without one on one, Beowulf without Tough could never beat Chives with it, even with Broadswords huge single target damage I'd still be able to kill him quicker. But the key was that he'd just run away and it'd be a draw. In PvP zones now it's better to go with Leadership instead of Fighting since Leadership offers much more than fighting does since you can always run away.


World of Jackcraft.

 

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Very nice build that you've put together, although you do seem to be going a bit too far with all the Acc enhancements+tactic+Focused Accuracy

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If somethings worth doing, its worth doing it a lot is my motto.

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Just stay away from me. Forever. I don't have time to buy 20 lucks every 5 minutes y'know.


 

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Very nice build that you've put together, although you do seem to be going a bit too far with all the Acc enhancements+tactic+Focused Accuracy

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If somethings worth doing, its worth doing it a lot is my motto.

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Just stay away from me. Forever. I don't have time to buy 20 lucks every 5 minutes y'know.

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Operation: Bankrupt Jersey swings into action!


 

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The first thing a good blaster/controller PvPer would do is hit you with a ranged -fly( i would anyway) Making your whole flight pool a waste of time. Hover, fly ,AS(meele range) all become usless with one ranged attack. I would go with TP foe myself.


 

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Oh, and I took Laser Beam Eyes because otherwise Hobo would whine at me.


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imo i would get dark mastery as an epic due to the holds and debuffs it has. useful for pvp, especially when regen's don't really need conserve power


@Captain Solaris
Guild of Extreme Heroes
"Strength is in Unity"

 

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Oh, and I took Laser Beam Eyes because otherwise Hobo would whine at me.


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imo i would get dark mastery as an epic due to the holds and debuffs it has. useful for pvp, especially when regen's don't really need conserve power

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You're a silly man if you don't take Focused Acc in a PvP build, especially with the new +perception and res to acc debuff it's got now, plus of course you'll hardley ever miss short of Elude or Personal Force Field.

Not tested the resist to acc debuff though.


World of Jackcraft.

 

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What he said. Focssed Accuracy is THE Ancillary PvP power.


 

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Oh, and I took Laser Beam Eyes because otherwise Hobo would whine at me.


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imo i would get dark mastery as an epic due to the holds and debuffs it has. useful for pvp, especially when regen's don't really need conserve power

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You're a silly man if you don't take Focused Acc in a PvP build, especially with the new +perception and res to acc debuff it's got now, plus of course you'll hardley ever miss short of Elude or Personal Force Field.

Not tested the resist to acc debuff though.

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lol...cheers for the put down fella...guess i'll just have to be weary of stalkers in pvp ...no change there then

with 2acc SOs in my attacks and 3 tohit buffs SOs in build up...i'm pretty confident in the knowledge that i will hit opposition even with debuffs (as experienced when i came across a fire/rad controller in pvp...then again it may have been the controller's slotting).

like i said "imo i would get dark mastery ..."


@Captain Solaris
Guild of Extreme Heroes
"Strength is in Unity"

 

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Yeah, it was the guy's slotting. And more people than Stalkers have invis you know...


World of Jackcraft.

 

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Yeah, it was the guy's slotting. And more people than Stalkers have invis you know...

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cheers for clarifying that with me


@Captain Solaris
Guild of Extreme Heroes
"Strength is in Unity"

 

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Okay just been reading through looking for inspiration for my lvl12 BS/Rgn. Some quick questions:

1) I notice that several builds don't include Parry, having read several I5 guides on the US forums which all have it and have it slotted has it changed in I6 to make it less worthwhile? Further does anyone have figures as to how it works. Planner puts its melee (positional?) 23.6, will that mean that I have 26.3% def for each application or will it be Base+23.6%= x +23.6%. Sorry maths isn't my strong point.

2) AS would/will put the sword away each time I use it I assume, does this make it more of a situational power or is it still good to have in the chain? The though being that if it is situational I'll take it instead of Fly, as with 2x Acc I'll free up a slot and still be able to mainly hit even with fly's -acc debuff.

3) Again going by the guides elsewhere I'm told that build up is situational. I'm taking it late (18) but would it be better early or later and what is the ideal slotting? (Going by my current build not the one below.)

4) Assuming that I slot Fast Healing with 3x Health and take Health againwith 3x slots. Plus reconstruction and dull pain. Is Instant Heal essential?

Rough Plan: (Based on The_Question's build in first post)
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Exported from Ver: 1.7.5.0 of the CoH_CoV Character Builder
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Archetype: Scrapper
Primary: Broad Sword
Secondary: Regeneration
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01) ==>Hack ==>Acc x2 Dmg x3 Rechg x1
01) ==>Fast Healing ==>Heal x3
02) ==>Slice ==>Acc x2 Dmg x3 Rechg x1
04) ==>Quick Recovery ==>EndMod x3
06) ==>Hasten ==>Rechg x3
08) ==>Build Up ==>Rechg x3
10) ==>Dull Pain ==>Rechg x2 Heal x2
12) ==>Reconstruction ==>Rechg x2 Heal x3
14) ==>Super Speed ==>Run x1
16) ==>Integration ==>EndRdx x1 Heal x3
18) ==>Hurdle ==>Jump x1
20) ==>Health ==>Heal x3
22) ==>Stamina ==>EndMod x3
24) ==>Whirling Sword ==>Acc x2 Dmg x3 Rechg x1
26) ==>Disembowel ==>Acc x2 Dmg x3 Rechg x1
28) ==>Parry ==>Acc x1 DefBuf x3 Rechg x2
30) ==>Hover ==>Fly x3
32) ==>Head Splitter ==>Acc x2 Dmg x3 Rechg x1
35) ==>Resilience ==>DmgRes x1
38) ==>Stealth ==>DefBuf x1 EndRdx x1
41) ==>Focused Accuracy ==>TH_Buf x3 EndRdx x3
44) ==>Fly ==>EndRdx x1 Fly x3
47) ==>Instant Healing ==>Rechg x3
49) ==>Revive ==>Rechg x1

Taken Stealth as a filler power mainly but will give me a little advantage in PvE getting to boss mobs, and in PvP hopefully allowing me to move a little more succesfully, while not in combat.

IH is in there, can't think of anything else to add or slot.

Before 41 Parry would be 2x Acc 2x DefBuff 2x RecRdx, hopefully will give me the defensive edge.

Attacks as above I want them to hit, I'll no doubt see by 41 if 2x Acc SOs will do the job or not, if they do I may well slot my attacks 1x Acc 3x Dmg 1x Rec Rdx 1x DefDebuf, or something else, maybe pull a slot out of each and have MoG fully slotted for those Oh ***** moments.

Anyway what do you reckon?


 

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Most of us drop Parry because we don't want to get into protracted slugging matches: thats bad PvPing. We want the big hit, the quick kill, and then the chance to run off before backup arrives. Parry really isn't conducive to killing things quickly.


 

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Well, I wouldn't sniff at focused acc Solaris,

With 2 acc so's in my attacks and 2 so acc buffs in buildup I can miss 6 times in a row against ff defenders with my brute.

Now I may well have been unlucky, I have hit them in the past but still its enough for me to think all the acc I can get is good, I use both to make sure of the hit when you need it with my scrapper.


 

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hmmm...where did you get the notion that I "sniff"ed at Focused Acc?

I never dismissed it as a power to have. My original post on this thread gave a view on a different epic to have. What I missed was that Question actually wants to play "the big hit, the quick kill, and then the chance to run off before backup arrives." Had it been mentioned at the begining then maybe I would have reconsidered putting in an alternative to Body Mastery.

Seems as if I've stepped on a number of "Scrapapocalypse!!!111!!!" toes. You should've put a "only Scrapapocalypse!!!111!!! members should post otherwise we'll slap your wrists" sign on this since it seems every other poster not from your sg have had their comments dismissed.

Have your Focused Acc since its the must have power, may it bring you happiness and lots of babies along the way!


@Captain Solaris
Guild of Extreme Heroes
"Strength is in Unity"

 

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Meh don't worry, you should hear what we say to that Chump hobojack :P

And yes Focused accuracy brings us much joy. We will however need ketchup for the babies.


 

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Noones "sniffed" at your opinion, the fact of the game is that The Dark Ancillary pool is inferior to Body Mastery in PvP, and this thread is about PvP. A poor quality Hold sounds good on paper, but its not going to be the difference between a win or a loss ever.

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What I missed was that Question actually wants to play "the big hit, the quick kill, and then the chance to run off before backup arrives." Had it been mentioned at the begining then maybe I would have reconsidered putting in an alternative to Body Mastery.

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Actually reading my first post might have helped you out here.


 

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HeHe I missed the bit about PvP.... Ithought the thread was about BS/Regen for everything and not just PvP.


 

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Seems as if I've stepped on a number of "Scrapapocalypse!!!111!!!" toes. You should've put a "only Scrapapocalypse!!!111!!! members should post otherwise we'll slap your wrists" sign on this since it seems every other poster not from your sg have had their comments dismissed.

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Well they didn't suggest going Dark over Body did they.


World of Jackcraft.

 

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I have Darkness Mastery in my MA/regen. I really love it. It has some nice utilities which body doesnt offer. It opens up new tactics. But the buttom line question will always be; Is it as good as the allmighty focussed accuracy?
The answer is no.


A Paragon Defender

 

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I took Laser Beam Eyes because otherwise Hobo would whine at me.


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lol...you weren't kidding were you!


@Captain Solaris
Guild of Extreme Heroes
"Strength is in Unity"

 

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I have Darkness Mastery in my MA/regen. I really love it. It has some nice utilities which body doesnt offer. It opens up new tactics. But the buttom line question will always be; Is it as good as the allmighty focussed accuracy?
The answer is no.

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Definately I agree

I have Body Mastery with my MA/SR...however with my BS/Regen I wanted to have something a little different and something to emphasise the Vampiric background I have for him...but I digress. Dark Mastery is a pool which has served me well in PvE and PvP, therefore didn't think it would be harmful to put across an alternative to Body Mastery.

Its ok Hobo, you can put your toys back in your pram.

/e walks away from thread


@Captain Solaris
Guild of Extreme Heroes
"Strength is in Unity"

 

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Well thats us told...


 

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You're a silly man if you don't take Focused Acc in a PvP build

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This meant that it's not a good idea to take body over Dark for a PvP build, which yours obviously isn't since yours is apparently PvE and PvP.

I don't think I've whined/threw toys out of pram in this thread personally, I could be wrong, all I did was give information.

Anyhoo don't let the door hit you in the [censored] as you go out.


World of Jackcraft.

 

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Exported from Ver: 1.7.5.0 of the CoH_CoV Character Builder - (http://home.comcast.net/~SherkSilver/index.html)
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Name: BS Regen
Level: 50
Archetype: Scrapper
Primary: Broad Sword
Secondary: Regeneration
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01) --> Hack==> Acc(1) Acc(3) Dmg(5) Dmg(7) Dmg(46)
01) --> Fast Healing==> Heal(1) Heal(11) Heal(15)
02) --> Slice==> Acc(2) Acc(3) Dmg(5) Dmg(7) Dmg(46)
04) --> Quick Recovery==> EndMod(4) EndMod(31) EndMod(31)
06) --> Reconstruction==> Rechg(6) Rechg(9) Rechg(9) Heal(11) Heal(15) Heal(25)
08) --> Parry==> Acc(8) Acc(40) DefBuf(43) DefBuf(43)
10) --> Swift==> Run(10)
12) --> Hasten==> Rechg(12) Rechg(13) Rechg(13)
14) --> Super Speed==> Run(14) Run(50)
16) --> Integration==> Heal(16) Heal(17) Heal(17)
18) --> Whirling Sword==> Acc(18) Acc(19) Dmg(19) Dmg(21) Dmg(46)
20) --> Dull Pain==> Rechg(20) Rechg(21) Rechg(23) Heal(23) Heal(25) Heal(29)
22) --> Health==> Heal(22) Heal(37) Heal(37)
24) --> Build Up==> Rechg(24)
26) --> Disembowel==> Acc(26) Acc(27) Dmg(27) Dmg(29) Dmg(45) Rechg(45)
28) --> Instant Healing==> Rechg(28) Rechg(31) Rechg(34) Heal(34) Heal(34) Heal(36)
30) --> Stamina==> EndMod(30) EndMod(36) EndMod(36)
32) --> Head Splitter==> Acc(32) Acc(33) Dmg(33) Dmg(33) Dmg(37) Rechg(45)
35) --> Stimulant==> Rechg(35)
38) --> Aid Self==> IntRdx(38) IntRdx(39) IntRdx(39) Heal(39) Heal(40) Rechg(40)
41) --> Petrifying Gaze==> Acc(41) Hold(42) Hold(42) Range(42) Rechg(43)
44) --> Assault==> EndRdx(44)
47) --> Tactics==> EndRdx(47) EndRdx(48) EndRdx(48) TH_Buf(48) TH_Buf(50) TH_Buf(50)
49) --> Confront==> Rechg(49)
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02) --> Rest==> Empty(2)
01) --> Sprint==> Empty(1)
01) --> Brawl==> Empty(1)
01) --> Critical Hit==> Empty(1)
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Comments on this for a PvP BS/regen build?