Recommend me some Bats/Tarps builds.


DarkMaster

 

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Hello Mastermind forum. I've decided to get some proper IOs into my Bots/Traps as he approaches 50 (Level 49 now). Problem is, I'm not certain what to get. Oh, I know the essentials (3 pets, 2 upgrades, Mortar, FF Gen, Poison Trap, Seekers, Aid Other/Self) I'm just uncertain what the best way to build an unkillable juggernaut of destruction is.

Should I go all defense? Or +Hp and Regen? Should I go Scirroco for the -KB immob, or Scorpion for the +Def shield? Should I grab stamina or Hasten? I'd like to get two of the Pulse Rifle attacks just for theme, as well as Detonator too.

Any suggestions or builds?


 

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Basically, my questions are these:
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* Webnade, slot or not?
* Toss Triage, or keep it?
* Challenge or Provoke?
* Hasten?
* Stamina?
* Mu or Mace?
* Tips/Tricks?


 

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OMG!


We have BATS and TARPS NOW! WOW!



 

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Basically, my questions are these:
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* Webnade, slot or not?


[/ QUOTE ]Slot it. You'll use it a lot, especially on bosses or higher. I personally like the Trap of the Hunter set in it for the bonuses, but if you're tight on slots just get some accuracy, endurance, and maybe a bit of immobilize.
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* Toss Triage, or keep it?


[/ QUOTE ]Depends of what you intend to do. Triage is fantastic in AV fights and almost useless in normal soloing (you don't stay still long enough for it to matter). I personally like to be able to flatten EBs and take on a true AV if I want to, so I took it on my Bots/Traps.[ QUOTE ]

* Challenge or Provoke?


[/ QUOTE ]Again, depends on your goals. You don't need either for normal solo spawns, especially if you take Maneuvers and get a 5% pet defense IO... your bots will be almost unkillable to non-EB level foes. If you want to tank for full teams, go with Provoke. If you want to solo AVs and not tank for teams, go with Challenge. If you don't want to solo AVs and don't plan to team, save a pool and skip both. [ QUOTE ]

* Hasten?


[/ QUOTE ]It's useful for AV fights to get more Acid Mortars and Poison traps down and resummon faster if needed, but honestly it's not that necessary.[ QUOTE ]

* Stamina?


[/ QUOTE ]It's useful but easily skipped if you use IOs. With good endurance slotting in all your powers (easy if you frankenslot) it's possible to run Leadership toggles without it. You will need a couple blue pills for AV fights, but anything else dies before you run out of endurance. However, if you plan to use your personal attacks or veteran attacks regularly you do need Stamina... those are all endurance hogs.[ QUOTE ]

* Mu or Mace?


[/ QUOTE ]I like Mu. You can get plenty of Ranged and AoE defense from sets and Charged Armor is handy, plus the -KB AoE immobilize helps maximize your Assault Bot burn patches. If you plan to make a really cheap build (no set bonuses) or like being in melee range to toe bomb, go Mace for the extra S/L Defense in Scorpion Shield.[ QUOTE ]

* Tips/Tricks?

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I like to use Caltrops and Web Grenade to keep things at range and let the pets keep the aggro for normal spawns. That way I can manually target for best effect and don't need Bodyguard. For EBs, AVs, and certain tough bosses (Succubi, for instance) I alternate Web Grenade and Challenge while in Bodyguard. That keeps the bots from getting fried by a lucky shot. Also, remember that Defensive Stay or Goto is still Bodyguard mode (as long as the bots are in line of sight and within 60 feet)... park the bots on a Triage Beacon out of AoE splash range before immobilizing and taunting an AV. If you position right, the bots will be on one side of the Beacon and you'll be on the far edge, so you all get the regen but the bots stay out of the blast radius.

Get Aid Self and Aid Other and slot both (I recommend five Doctored Wounds). Aid Other is perfect for topping off pets (given a choice, take it instead of Repair because it's a lot more useful) and Aid Self plus Bodyguard and high personal defense makes you pretty much immortal.

Be sure to get plenty of recharge and an Achilles' Heel proc in Acid Mortar.

Don't worry if you're broke and using a cheap build. Using generic IOs or SOs just affects which AVs a Bots/Traps can solo and how long it takes to do so... it doesn't mean you aren't still death incarnate.

And finally, don't get discouraged in the 20s when you get stomped flat by Scrapyarders. it gets better. A lot better. And don't forget to go back when you're 50 and spend a few minutes mowing down every Demolitionist you see. It feels really, really good...


Cascade, level 50 Blaster (NRG/NRG since before it was cool)
Mechmeister, level 50 Bots / Traps MM
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Originally Posted by DarkMaster View Post
OMG!


We have BATS and TARPS NOW! WOW!


Lol, yeah, with the title I wasn't expecting a serious Q from the OP. Gave me slightly less "lol" than I was hoping. Oh well.
The build is being well assessed by StrykerX, carry on



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