Def, Res, Rech, etc Caps?

Heya folks, i was wondering - can anyone link me a site that shows the caps of all things mentioned above?
In the interest of slotting IO's and picking powers

Click the wiki link in my sig, and type in "Limits" in the search.

Then bookmark the wiki main page - lots of good info there.

See my Guides and Tutorials

The wiki isn't actually correct on all of those, unless they changed it since last I looked.

Edit: Just checked, and I know for a fact that all of the damage buffs are off by 100% at level 21+

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Click the wiki link in my sig, and bookmark it. There is lots of good info there.

Then type in "Limits" in the search to find your answer.

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j.k Couldn't resist. lol

Ahh, nice! Thanks Bill!
And no need to bookmark it, it's been on my list for a long time now >.>
*makes mental note to remember the "Limits" keyphrase* >.>

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The wiki isn't actually correct on all of those, unless they changed it since last I looked.

Edit: Just checked, and I know for a fact that all of the damage buffs are off by 100% at level 21+

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Keep in mind that the wiki is showing he cap for the total maximum damage, not the cap for the buff itself... and it says so right in the description: 100% + Buff
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The amount of Damage bonus needed to reach the cap is 100 less than the cap itself.

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If you want to know what the Combat attributes will display in game for your maximum damage buff, then yes.. simply subtract 100 from the value you see on that table.

Ah, ok gotcha. . . hadn't considered that . . . mainly because I don't personally really consider the base part of the cap >.>

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Ah, ok gotcha. . . hadn't considered that . . . mainly because I don't personally really consider the base part of the cap >.>

[/ QUOTE ] I do agree with you there. If it just said "Damage", then it makes sense to include the base, but the name of the category is "Damage BUFF", which shouldn't include the base.

Even still, the description below the table explains it (to those who read it ).

I read it. . .ok so I didn't, but I will say I did for my dignity, then continue to say that I am mentally handicapped. . .wait. . does the retain my dignity, or throw it out a second story window?

Edit: In my defense . . . is your base recharge rate 0%? Would that make you have no recharge, vs how it is stated that you can get -75% . . .correct me if I'm wrong, but if you are recharging -75%. . .wouldn't that mean that the power is actually like decharging (ok I totally made that up, but w/e).

isn't it more like you have a base of 100%, can get a BUFF of 400%, and can get debuffed 75% to put you at a minimum 25% recharge. . .not that this would also make the numbers they give make more sense. (1/5th recharge at 500% recharge rate, and 4Xs recharge at 25% recharge rate vs the same -100%. . .)

Edited to ad note to edit: @#$%@ did I just prove your point not mine? I'm not sure at the moment actually. . .maybe I did both? O.o I need sleep. . .

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I read it. . .ok so I didn't, but I will say I did for my dignity, then continue to say that I am mentally handicapped. . .wait. . does the retain my dignity, or throw it out a second story window?

[/ QUOTE ] It just keeps you honest. No worries..

Besides.. that's a common mistake that could happen to anybody.

Also.. if you find something wrong in the wiki.. you can just let somebody know (for verification).
The Wiki can be edited easily.

I decided I proved my point, they are inconsistent, yeah . . .that is what I was getting at. . .I still need sleep though *sigh*

Isn't the aggro cap also 16, not 17? Not a huge deal, just making a statement =] (sorry reading the article. . )

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Isn't the aggro cap also 16, not 17? Not a huge deal, just making a statement =] (sorry reading the article. . )

[/ QUOTE ] lol you are thinking too hard about it. I already told you that the name of the category for Damage is misleading.

The Agro cap doesn't change. There is no way to buff or debuff it... so it's not like you have 1 by default and 16 more.. it's just plain 17. Period. lol

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Isn't the aggro cap also 16, not 17? Not a huge deal, just making a statement =] (sorry reading the article. . )

[/ QUOTE ] lol you are thinking too hard about it. I already told you that the name of the category for Damage is misleading.

The Agro cap doesn't change. There is no way to buff or debuff it... so it's not like you have 1 by default and 16 more.. it's just plain 17. Period. lol

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I'm sleepy, and putting off going to bed, hehe

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Isn't the aggro cap also 16, not 17? Not a huge deal, just making a statement =] (sorry reading the article. . )

[/ QUOTE ] lol you are thinking too hard about it. I already told you that the name of the category for Damage is misleading.

The Agro cap doesn't change. There is no way to buff or debuff it... so it's not like you have 1 by default and 16 more.. it's just plain 17. Period. lol

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I'm sleepy, and putting off going to bed, hehe

[/ QUOTE ] LoL goodnight. I hope it makes more sense to you when you wake up.

And no, your explanation of Recharge above doesn't prove your point. The wiki clearly states "recharge rate penalty of -75%", not a total recharge rate of -75%.

Yes, your Recharge time BONUS is 0% at base.

Do you have any idea how much I want to make a point to that? but I'm not sure I can at this time, because I'm about to start drooling on my keyboard I believe. . . but I'm going to try!

So. . .let me get this straight. . .on the section where it is labeled "Recharge Rate" it is talking about your "Recharge Rate Bonus" Strictly? While on the section where it says "Damage Buff" it is talking about your over all Damage, not just the buff? #@%#$% no wonder I was confused! Good night! =]

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Do you have any idea how much I want to make a point to that? but I'm not sure I can at this time, because I'm about to start drooling on my keyboard I believe. . . but I'm going to try!

So. . .let me get this straight. . .on the section where it is labeled "Recharge Rate" it is talking about your "Recharge Rate Bonus" Strictly? While on the section where it says "Damage Buff" it is talking about your over all Damage, not just the buff? #@%#$% no wonder I was confused! Good night! =]

[/ QUOTE ] LoL that's what I was trying to tell you in the first place.. the word "Buff" is misleading in that section. If you ignore it.. it all makes more sense. haha

The 100% base damage is considered part of the buff in the game mechanics equations. That's why it's listed the way it is in the wiki.

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The 100% base damage is considered part of the buff in the game mechanics equations. That's why it's listed the way it is in the wiki.

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Actually, I believe it's more likely because the devs presented the damage caps in those terms in things like patch notes. But it's not like the devs have always been consistent with their terminology (like "accuracy"), or as clear as they could be (see "slow" versus "snare"). For instance, the Combat Attributes window in the game shows buff only, without the 100% base.

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The 100% base damage is considered part of the buff in the game mechanics equations. That's why it's listed the way it is in the wiki.

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Actually, I believe it's more likely because the devs presented the damage caps in those terms in things like patch notes. But it's not like the devs have always been consistent with their terminology (like "accuracy"), or as clear as they could be (see "slow" versus "snare"). For instance, the Combat Attributes window in the game shows buff only, without the 100% base.

[/ QUOTE ]The CA window tries to present things in laymen's terms. Paragonwiki and Red Tomax generally present things in terms of actual mechanics.