I can't tell you exactly what the numbers are but I can tell you this:
Hasten DOES effect its own recharge while it is running, so when it drops it recharges more slowly until it is back.
I have no idea whether Mids is sophisticated enough to account for that. I suspect not.
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I'm not sure I understand what your theory is, but Arcanaville wrote a guide on how recharge works, it's in the Guides section somewhere.
The short version (hoping I haven't mangled this too badly) is that Hasten will affect its own recharge, for as long as the Hasten buff is active.
Hasten has a base 450s recharge. Let's say (for ease of math) that you have 100% recharge slotted in Hasten, and 30% global recharge, for a total of 130%, or 200% while Hasten is active.
During Hasten's 120s duration, you're recharging at three times (+200%) the normal rate, so you can count 120 x 3 = 360s off of the recharge, leaving 90s. Then, Hasten wears off, and you now have +130% recharge (2.3 times normal speed). The remaining 90s pass at 2.3x speed, which means 39.1s (90 / 2.3).
Total, Hasten was up for 120s, down for 39.1, for a 159.1s recharge.
With 80% global recharge and 99% slotted in Hasten (from 3 50 IO's), Hasten will be up for 120s and down for 11.1s, for a total recharge of 131.1s.
Mids' does not know how to calculate all of this: it can only calculate with hasten either on, or off (the little green button).
Just put me in a crazy place.. ^_^ Thank you both for replying.. I've come to the conclusion that i was looking at things wrong and there for was wrong in the theory that cant be understood by anyone else.. =P I will be sure to look for that guide though.. I need to read up on it i think. Thanks again! 
Edits: And i really appreciate those numbers.. =P
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OK X I kinda have no idea what you said 
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Mid's doesn't modify your build for perma-hasten when you add the power, it has the little green togglebutton to turn it off, so if you want to see your other power's rech while it's down turn it off. When you hit the little Green toggle on and off you can see that Mids can account for Hasten affecting it's own rech, it changes when you toggle it on/off.
And why didn't you ask me about Doms? You know I've been studying how they work for months . On Psi I hit Perma-Dom (only in the plan duh, you know I can't afford to slot stuffs) and am still 3 seconds or so off of perma-Hasten with it 3-slotted with Rech IOs.
I just ran a test for you and according to mid's Dom data I can permadom with Hasten and a little under 55% global rech 
If you were referring to trying to figure out if you'll remain perma-dom while Hasten is down my theory would be take Hastens down-time and make sure you are pressed past perma-dom by at least that much. (For instance since my Hasten is down by around 3 seconds, I'd want Domination to recharge in a maximum of 86 to make sure it fires again before it drops)
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Unless Hasten is perma, the short method is to treat its Recharge time as 366s instead of 450s.
B = Base Recharge time
E = Enhancement in Hasten and Global +Rech other than Hasten
R = Final Recharge time
B' = Effective Base Recharge
R = 120s + (450s - 120s * (1.7 + E)) / (1 + E) for E < 2.05
This means that while Hasten is running the 450s cool down timer decrements by (1.7 + E) every second, then if Hasten hasn't recharged by the time its own buff wears off it continues to tick down by (1 + E) every second until it reaches zero or less.
If you want to know what the effective Base Recharge is just work backwards by multiplying the Final Recharge time by (1 + E).
B' = R * (1 + E)
B' = 120s * (1 + E) + 450s - 120s * (1.7 + E) for E < 2.05
B' = 120s + (120s * E) + 450s - 204s - (120s * E) for E < 2.05
B' = 366s for E < 2.05
For example, with no globals and 95% enhancement Hasten recharges in 366s / 1.95 = 187.7s.
Double-checking... that means 120s worth of ticks of 2.65 or 318s worth of recharge during the Hasten buff period, leaving 132s worth of cool down needed from ticks of 1.95. Divide 132s by 1.95 and you get 67.7s beyond the end of the buff. Add the 120s of the buff period and you get 187.7s.
Technically, the value used should be about 119.1s instead of 120s for the buff as the cool down of the power doesn't start until 0.9s or so (0.924s by Arcanaville's formula) have gone by. Taking out that 0.924s from the buff leads to...
R = (120s - 0.924s) + (450s - (120s - 0.924s) * (1.7 + E)) / (1 + E) for E < 450s / (120s - 0.924s) - 1.7 = 2.079
B' = 366.647s for E < 2.079
That's a bit harder to remember.
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I'm not sure I understand what your theory is, but Arcanaville wrote a guide on how recharge works, it's in the Guides section somewhere.
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I use MID's and the recharge it predicts is say 124 (70% hasten and about 80%or so global).. I always thought MID's took the recharge as if hasten was perma.. So in my opinion the 4 seconds it is off and down to 80% rech would have SOME effect on the next recharge time.. I could be COMPLETELY wrong about all of this but it is bugging me.. I am currently questioning myself right now as to whether i am wrong..
Reason is bugs me so bad: i want to have perma dom and of course perma hasten would make for sure that i have it.
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I just re-read this. To have Mids read 124s with circa 80% global you must have it 5 or 6 slotted.
Moving off the subject of Hasten to perma-Dom you need only consider the longest possible down time for Hasten during a period of Dom that still allows you to collect 200s worth of ticks. This is because any such window will be sandwiched by 120s of Hasten buff on either side, resulting in no possibility of two Hasten down times occurring during the recharge of Domination unless you are slowed.
B = Global Recharge buffs
E = Hasten enhancement
D = Hasten down time
D = 366s / (1 + E + B) - 120s
For perma-Dom...
200s < D * (1 + B) + (90s - D) * (1.7 + B)
200s < D + DB + 153s + 90B - 1.7D - DB
47s < -0.7D + 90B
47s < -0.7(366s / (1 + E + B) - 120s) + 90B
47s < -256.2s / (1 + E + B) + 84s + 90B
0 < -256.2s / (1 + E + B) + 37s + 90B
256.2s < (37s + 90B) (1 + E + B)
256.2s < 37s + 90B + 37E + 90EB + 37B + 90B^s
219.2s < 90B^2 + 127B + (90B + 37)E
With E = 0.99
219.2s < 90B^2 + 127B + 89.1B + 36.63s
0 < 90B^2 + 216.1B - 182.57s
Using the quadratic formula
B > (-216.1 +/- sqrt(46699.21 - 4*90*(-182.57))) / 2 / 90
B > -1.201 +/- 1.863
B > 0.662
Working backwards to double-check...
Hasten recharge is 138s under this, so we have at most 18s of down time in a Domination cycle. During those 18s we get 29.916s worth of ticks, leaving us needing 170.084s worth with the 136.2% +Rech when Hasten is running. That takes 170.084s / 2.362 = 72s. Add the 18s without Hasten and you get the 90s Domination window.
So, you need 66.2% global Recharge to avoid gaps in Domination using 3-slotted Hasten and ignoring cast times. I use a straight 70% number for slop.
With Hasten at 124s in Mids you must have +192.9% between Hasten slotting and Globals (ignoring rounding on that 124s), so you're Hasten down time is just about 5s. Dom should recharge in the worst case in about 81.4s with 80% Global and a 5s Hasten down time.
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Ok so this has plagued me for the last time.. I'm coming to everyone for their theories and ideas to get to the bottom of things.. Heck.. It could have already been stated somewhere but i'm too lazy to look.. I even had my mom going over this with me.. O_O She wanted to strangle me b/c i confused her.. Now to get to the point:
For hasten that is not perma, does the gap between each "tick" grow in size due to the excess time?
My theory is that for however much excess time, it will lengthen the recharge bit by bit to a certain point before it goes back to its said recharge.. I know none of this may make sense. I probably sound crazy. I just hope SOMEONE can find an answer before i pull my hair out.. Back to topic.. I use MID's and the recharge it predicts is say 124 (70% hasten and about 80%or so global).. I always thought MID's took the recharge as if hasten was perma.. So in my opinion the 4 seconds it is off and down to 80% rech would have SOME effect on the next recharge time.. I could be COMPLETELY wrong about all of this but it is bugging me.. I am currently questioning myself right now as to whether i am wrong..
Reason is bugs me so bad: i want to have perma dom and of course perma hasten would make for sure that i have it.
Posting this.. I hope SOMEONE understands me.. If not i can try to find examples.. The only one i can think of would be leap year.. Every three years we have 365 days plus a bit extra.. And on the fourth year the extra is used.. Mom came up with that one.. o.o Posting.. Head hurts..
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