Target Cap question


firespray

 

Posted

Okay, I have a question about how the target cap works. Let's say I'm surrounded by 10 guys, and I use an attack with a target cap of 5. It hits 4, and misses 1. Does that miss use up the 5th target in the target cap, or will it make a to-hit check against another target until I actually hit 5 targets?


 

Posted

As soon as you make the attack, it chooses its 5 targets, then it rolls to see if you hit them. If you miss 1, then you only hit 4 out of the 5. It will not keep checking targets till you get 5 hits.


 

Posted

Okay, that's what I thought. So how does it pick them? Is it the 5 closest to you, or 5 random ones within range, or what?


 

Posted

For a targeted AoE effect, I believe the game will make to hit checks on the first enemy you target and the remaining eligible targets closest to the original. I'm not sure how it works for PBAoE attacks that don't require you to target an enemy to launch the attack, but I suspect the AI will just pick the mobs closest to you.


 

Posted

Actually, that's how we all thought it worked, but someone did some testing a while ago and found that it actually keeps checking until it hits the target cap, or runs out of valid targets to check.

The first target checked is the target of the power (if targetted), or closest to the target (if location based), or closest to you (if PBAoE), and works its way out. It's a little wonky, just like tabbing through enemies, so it doesn't always hit the ones you would expect.

If you don't believe me, go find one of those AE missions with a ton of ambushes, stand in the middle, and hit a PBAoE. If it's poorly slotted, it's possible to see more "Miss"es than targets allowed, plus capped targets being hit.


@Roderick

 

Posted

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Actually, that's how we all thought it worked, but someone did some testing a while ago and found that it actually keeps checking until it hits the target cap, or runs out of valid targets to check.

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The Keeps-Checking-For-X-Hits is how the developers originally explained it to us - that it keeps checking until it hits the target cap, not counting misses. I might of even been one of the ones to ask about that when they first put in the target caps.


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Posted

Okay, that actually makes sense if there are more targets in range than what the power can hit, then with a high acc at will still hit its cap. I would like to test this somehow.


 

Posted

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If you don't believe me, go find one of those AE missions with a ton of ambushes, stand in the middle, and hit a PBAoE. If it's poorly slotted, it's possible to see more "Miss"es than targets allowed, plus capped targets being hit.

[/ QUOTE ] I always assumed it just displayed "miss" over the foes within the aoe range, but over the cap. I didn't think I actually rolled badly that many times in a row.. What does the ToHitRoll chat display?